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princefielder28 03-22-2007 12:31 PM

Schaub's New Deal
 
According to ESPN.com it's a six year 48 million dollar deal.

Crickett 03-22-2007 12:37 PM

All because of one game where he completed half of his passes and lost.

JPLUFF 03-22-2007 12:46 PM

Wow...good for him.

fenikz 03-22-2007 12:55 PM

good god, whats tom brady and peyton manning making?

Shiver 03-22-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz (Post 239700)
good god, whats tom brady and peyton manning making?

About double that.

The Houston Chronicle shows why Houston pulled the trigger:

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Before the Texans pulled the trigger, Kubiak spoke with three coaches. Gibbs, the Falcons' former offensive line coach, worked with Kubiak at Denver for years. Musgrave, who played quarterback for Kubiak at Denver, was the Falcons' quarterbacks coach last season. Groh, a longtime NFL coach, was Schaub's head coach at Virginia.

Gibbs, Musgrave and Groh praised Schaub's ability, leadership skills, intensity and competitiveness. All are convinced that, given a starting job with some talented players surrounding him, Schaub can be a consistent winner in the NFL.

TheGunShow 03-22-2007 01:05 PM

I think if I was a Texans fan I'd of rather of hoped Quinn fell to #8.

ninerfan 03-22-2007 01:09 PM

Ouch that price cant be right !! Can it ?

DeathbyStat 03-22-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGunShow (Post 239726)
I think if I was a Texans fan I'd of rather of hoped Quinn fell to #8.

I agree, Matt isn't all that mobile and their line is still awfull

GiantRutgersFan 03-22-2007 01:25 PM

That is exactly the same contract that Eli Manning has....

Splat 03-22-2007 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ninerfan (Post 239744)
Ouch that price cant be right !! Can it ?

I would hope not.

bsaza2358 03-22-2007 01:50 PM

Note about the contract: Only $7mm of it is guaranteed. Schaub gets a $7mm bonus right now and will make between $2mm and $4.5mm for the first 3 years of the deal. There are a few little escalators for throwing 30 TD's and taking the Texans to the playoffs. The first stage of the deal is a 3 year, $18mm deal with $7mm guaranteed. In 2010, there is a $10mm roster bonus due. If the Texans pay the roster bonus, the next stage of the contract is another 3 year deal. This one is a 3 year, $30mm deal with $10mm guaranteed. Annual salaries will be between $6mm and around $8mm through 2013. I think it's a well structured contract for the Texans.

bigbluedefense 03-22-2007 01:55 PM

For everyone killing this contract...its not as much as what a 1st round qb wouldve cost them. Thats first and foremost.

And to say how does he deserve that money when he hasn't proved anything...heck, we see it every year in the draft. Schaub, while unproven, is more proven than any qb coming in this years draft, has accomplished more in the NFL than any of these qbs while still very young, and is cheaper than any of the available round 1 qbs. So whats the problem?

bsaza2358 03-22-2007 02:05 PM

Schaub got an annualized salary and bonus equivalent with a placeholder starting QB, with a team option to give him a solid higher salary that would be based on his performance. It is a cap savvy deal, and Schaub can easily outperform it and prove the Texans correct in a variety of ways.

frogstomp 03-22-2007 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358 (Post 239958)
Schaub got an annualized salary and bonus equivalent with a placeholder starting QB, with a team option to give him a solid higher salary that would be based on his performance. It is a cap savvy deal, and Schaub can easily outperform it and prove the Texans correct in a variety of ways.

Or he could, you know, suck worse than Carr and make them look like idiots.

That would prove them incorrect in a variety of ways. You gotta love speculation.

bigbluedefense 03-22-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frogstomp (Post 239981)
Or he could, you know, suck worse than Carr and make them look like idiots.

That would prove them incorrect in a variety of ways. You gotta love speculation.

You could say the same thing about a round 1 qb though. The only thing that people can knock Houston for is how much they gave up for Schaub. That will be the key, is he worth the investment.

In terms of money, or the idea of getting a new qb, I don't think you can rip on them for that. Only what they gave up to get him.

bsaza2358 03-22-2007 02:14 PM

You make a good point. I happen to like Schaub. I liked him coming out of school. I think he will do well in a WCO. Certainly, having a zone blocking system and a WR like Andre Johnson won't hurt. The Texans need to add more talent in this draft...

frogstomp 03-22-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 239989)
You could say the same thing about a round 1 qb though. The only thing that people can knock Houston for is how much they gave up for Schaub. That will be the key, is he worth the investment.

In terms of money, or the idea of getting a new qb, I don't think you can rip on them for that. Only what they gave up to get him.

That was pretty much my whole point... it's all speculation. We can go with our personal opinions on the guy, but we've never really seen him, other than one game against a horribly depleted New England defense. We won't know until the end of next year.

bigbluedefense 03-22-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frogstomp (Post 240041)
That was pretty much my whole point... it's all speculation. We can go with our personal opinions on the guy, but we've never really seen him, other than one game against a horribly depleted New England defense. We won't know until the end of next year.

You just said something smart. Quick, neutralize it with some random humor.

lod01 03-22-2007 02:35 PM

Matt Schaub will take this team to the playoffs BEFORE Carr finishes a full NFL season at 8-8 or better.

frogstomp 03-22-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 240052)
You just said something smart. Quick, neutralize it with some random humor.

I can't do anything when I'm under pressure! Just ask my girlfriend!

bsaza2358 03-22-2007 02:38 PM

And there it is!

The Legend 03-22-2007 03:03 PM

wait is that not more then Carr ouch

comahan 03-22-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGunShow (Post 239726)
I think if I was a Texans fan I'd of rather of hoped Quinn fell to #8.

No.

No, no, no.

bsaza2358 03-22-2007 03:44 PM

Carr was getting paid more over the next 3 seasons than Schaub will make during that time.

bigbluedefense 03-22-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by frogstomp (Post 240068)
I can't do anything when I'm under pressure! Just ask my girlfriend!

Nice, I gotta spread rep around before I can give you more. But Ill come back to this one so I can rep it.


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