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princefielder28 03-23-2007 11:07 AM

Dolphins Front Runners to Land Carr
 
According to publsihed reports the Miami Dolphins have entered the talks for Texans QB David Carr. The Dolphins have been trying to get Kansas City QB Trent Green, but if they can't agree to a deal Carr appears to be the next option in Miami

Young Nasty Man 03-23-2007 11:14 AM

There goes New Englands second round pick and there goes the Trent Green trade.

If this doesn't go down I'm assuming a trade kinda like this:

Oakland Recieves: David Carr
Houston Texans Recieve: 2nd/3rd Round Draft Pick

Green Bay Recieves: Randy Moss
Oakland Recieves: Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila/Cullen Jenkins

Jughead10 03-23-2007 11:18 AM

I'm not sure David Carr is worth a second round pick at this point. Maybe a 3rd.

princefielder28 03-23-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10 (Post 242694)
I'm not sure David Carr is worth a second round pick at this point. Maybe a 3rd.

Teams can dictate the talks though b/c they know Houston has to get rid of him so his value is lower than a week ago.

AlexDown 03-23-2007 11:32 AM

Did you get this from Pro Football Talk? I'm not saying there isn't any truth to this but I am just wondering.

princefielder28 03-23-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexDown (Post 242717)
Did you get this from Pro Football Talk? I'm not saying there isn't any truth to this but I am just wondering.

It's according to the Miami Herald

AlexDown 03-23-2007 11:41 AM

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The Dolphins have expressed no interest in trading for Houston Texans quarterback David Carr, a source said. Carr, the Texans' starter since the franchise began play in 2002, became expendable Wednesday when they acquired Atlanta's No. 2 quarterback, Matt Schaub.
I have heard this also. There really isn't any depth to this rumor.However, I woulden't be suprised if they went for him.

princefielder28 03-23-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexDown (Post 242731)
I have heard this also. There really isn't any depth to this rumor.However, I woulden't be suprised if they went for him.

That was according to the Palm Beach Post, check the miami Herald

AlexDown 03-23-2007 11:45 AM

I'm not from Florida, maybe I am not understanding you. What is the difference? Is one more credible then the other?

princefielder28 03-23-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexDown (Post 242736)
I'm not from Florida, maybe I am not understanding you. What is the difference? Is one more credible then the other?

I'm from Wisconsin but i have a site where I can see all the Newspapers and I would consider the Herald being more reliable than the Post

portermvp84 03-23-2007 12:01 PM

What wouldn't give up a 2nd round pick for the guy, 3rd at best.

yourfavestoner 03-23-2007 12:04 PM

And the Dolphins' interest in other teams' reject quarterbacks continues.

princefielder28 03-23-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner (Post 242768)
And the Dolphins' interest in other teams' reject quarterbacks continues.

Thats a good way to sum it up

Geo 03-23-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10 (Post 242694)
I'm not sure David Carr is worth a second round pick at this point. Maybe a 3rd.

More like a 5th, I would think, given Carr's salaries and the undeniable fact that Carr's days in Houston are dwindling fast.

Sveen 03-23-2007 12:40 PM

They shouldn't offer them more than a 5th rounder. As I see it the only teams interested (?) in him are them and Oakland. If no one trades for him he will be released. That makes the price drop.

crazyisme 03-23-2007 12:52 PM

car isnt even worth a 4th round selection, Plummer was traded for a 4th rounder and Id take him on my team over carr, hes not THAT old and he has some success as a starter, Carr has done nothing but look bad, theres no way hes worth more than plummer, there is an age thing yes, so i might be willing to part with a 4th putting him at the same value as plummer but thats pushing it...

Also, i thought i read somewhere that shefter said that no team is willing to trade for Carr because they know that Houston wont be paying BOTH Carr and Shaub so they are going to be cutting Carr...

who knows though, but Carr is definately not worth a first day pick

bigbluedefense 03-23-2007 12:53 PM

So far, Miami is getting an F in their offseason. They got older on defense, they haven't addressed the oline, and if they think David Carr is the answer at QB, they need to think again.

Shiver 03-23-2007 01:34 PM

Trent Green isn't the answer either. I just don't see much in Miami, well, anything that leads me to be optimistic about their chances.

yourfavestoner 03-23-2007 01:39 PM

I posted this in the Matt Schaub thread, but realized it would be more appropriate here...

What exactly is the difference between Carr and Joey Harrington? And why is it that so many people give Carr a free pass for being in a terrible situation in Houston, but don't do the same for Harrington?

cordscords 03-23-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner (Post 242956)
I posted this in the Matt Schaub thread, but realized it would be more appropriate here...

What exactly is the difference between Carr and Joey Harrington? And why is it that so many people give Carr a free pass for being in a terrible situation in Houston, but don't do the same for Harrington?

Harrington had more weapons around him (at least name wise) and had plenty of time to throw (was sacked a total of 17 times his first 2 seasons).

Harrington flat out stinks, and I still think Carr has a good shot of being a top 10 NFL QB if put in the right situation.

turninandburnin1 03-23-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner (Post 242768)
And the Dolphins' interest in other teams' reject quarterbacks continues.

ha found that funny.

Anyway I could see this happening as it looks as if Green isnt headed there.

toonsterwu 03-23-2007 02:07 PM

This really feels like a leverage move to impact the Trent Green trade.

Btw, I agree on the 5th for David Carr. The reports indicate even before Schaub they weren't getting day 1 offers. I have a hard time seeing that now. Best case may be to do some sort of conditional deal for whichever team pursues Carr.

lod01 03-23-2007 02:14 PM

First to say to Miami, 'You'll be sorry'.

portermvp84 03-23-2007 02:22 PM

I hope no one trades for him so the Texans can cut Carr. So the Raiders can get him for even a cheaper price.

lod01 03-23-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by portermvp84 (Post 243069)
I hope no one trades for him so the Texans can cut Carr. So the Raiders can get him for even a cheaper price.

And do what? Raiders 2006: 71 sacks. Do you plan on breaking the record? If so, then yes, carr is your man.


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