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shylo3716 05-14-2011 02:46 PM

Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
 
Cliff is not an underrated prospect at all. Some rate him the #2 CB in this years Draft class, which speaks volumes, because that puts him ahead of Stephon Gilmore. A plus with Harris is that he can help out in the return game. The major negative I see when I look at him is, he is on the frail side in a Kelly Jennings mold. Some list him at 5'11'' 180 which is generous, because he looks to be on the 165lb. side.

2011 — Clocked 4.79 seconds in the electronic 40-yard (third amongst defensive backs) during winter conditioning.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=204782074


TACKLE 05-14-2011 03:09 PM

4.79 :o

impressive.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TACKLE (Post 2601321)
4.79 :o

impressive.

I scratched my head too!

Caulibflower 05-14-2011 03:17 PM

A 170 lb corner who runs a 4.8? Um... Pass.


EDIT: I see a high school combine time for 4.60 via scout.com. I had to look it up, because I can hardly believe that he'd be that slow. Where are you getting that 4.79?

RaiderNation 05-14-2011 03:20 PM

I had to take a second glance at the 40 time. I thought he would atleast run around a 4.5.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 03:21 PM

He has to be very very elusive as a return man, 4.79 is a Big SMDH & face palm for those who are high on him as a top CB prospect.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calubflower (Post 2601324)
A 170 lb corner who runs a 4.8? Um... Pass.


EDIT: I see a high school combine time for 4.60 via scout.com. I had to look it up, because I can hardly believe that he'd be that slow. Where are you getting that 4.79?

Player Bio from the school website.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=204782074

shylo3716 05-14-2011 03:29 PM

4.79 is something the school should not have posted, especially since he is their best CB prospect. This will hurt his stock, I expect Gilmore to be back ahead now.

CashmoneyDrew 05-14-2011 04:03 PM

There's no way that time is an accurate reflection of his speed.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CashmoneyDrew (Post 2601340)
There's no way that time is an accurate reflection of his speed.

I posted the link

BamaFalcon59 05-14-2011 04:11 PM

Obviously something is fishy with that time. There is no way that Oregon has only two defensive backs that run sub-4.79.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59 (Post 2601342)
Obviously something is fishy with that time. There is no way that Oregon has two defensive backs that run sub-4.79.

Who is the other? Link us please

Caulibflower 05-14-2011 04:16 PM

I wonder if that's a typo. If someone entered it on the number pad, 7 is right above 4... I can see a 4.49 being the third fastest among defensive backs, but not a 4.79. Not at Oregon. That's just not right. And I think someone putting together profile pages for a school that just played in the national championship would have to know that a 4.79 is not something worthy of posting in a player's bio. I think I'm just going to go ahead and assume that time is wrong.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:18 PM

Has to be accurate for Harris.

College Football Live even spoke on LaMichael James the other day & here is his numbers from the school site.

2011 — Led all running backs on squat (465 pounds), bench press (295 pounds), electronic 20-yard (2.68 seconds), fly 30 (2.85 seconds) and electronic 40-yard (4.59 seconds) during winter conditioning

Caulibflower 05-14-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 2601343)
Who is the other? Link us please

The page says "third fastest," meaning there are only two others who timed faster than Cliff, which would mean they are "sub-4.79." That's really slow... so that other post is a joke. Really not buying that only three members of Oregon's secondary can break 4.8. That's what you'd find on a high school team.

BamaFalcon59 05-14-2011 04:21 PM

Your link said that his 4.79 would be third among Oregon DBs...

That means only two Oregon DBs run under 4.79.

Which is false.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59 (Post 2601349)
Your link said that his 4.79 would be third among Oregon DBs...

That means only two Oregon DBs run under 4.79.

Which is false.

Well I did not make it up. I'm just relaying what was posted in fine print.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:27 PM

Me personally I still would take a look at him. He is good zone corner IMO which he showed in the Aubrun game.

CashmoneyDrew 05-14-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 2601341)
I posted the link

OK? That has nothing to do with what I said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 2601351)
Well I did not make it up. I'm just relaying what was posted in fine print.

No one is accusing you of making this up. We're saying there's something wrong with the report.

shylo3716 05-14-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CashmoneyDrew (Post 2601355)
OK? That has nothing to do with what I said.



No one is accusing you of making this up. We're saying there's something wrong with the report.

Hopefully Scott or Shane sees this & can help clear this up.

BamaFalcon59 05-14-2011 05:03 PM

It could have been ran on grass.

College 40s are useless, they are best utilized in comparison to their teammates. Florida and VT run faster 40s and Oregon may run slow 40s, but you can tell who is fast reguardless.

LaMichael James is fast. Harris runs .2 slower than him. So Harris probably runs late 4.5, early 4.6.

SickwithIt1010 05-14-2011 07:32 PM

he plays a helluva lot faster than that!

Woody56 05-14-2011 09:41 PM

didn't realize oregon was so slow

TitanHope 05-14-2011 10:35 PM

I don't care what his posted 40 time is. The dude was flying in the Tennessee/Oregon game last year.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH 05-14-2011 11:16 PM

Under 2010, it says he was a 4.81...


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