Originally Posted by jrdrylie (Post 2906647)

Matt Flynn's girlfriend is hot. Pretty impressive for an ugly backup quarterback.

Originally Posted by Scotty D (Post 2906767)

^^^ I'm not sure the Vikings have an offensive line anymore.

Originally Posted by fenikz (Post 2906791)

well the Cardinals have these 4 signed for the next 5 years

LT Brown
LG Colledge
C Sendlein
RG Synder

:facepalm:

Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 2906359)

Terrell Owens worked out awesomely twice before flaming out with his teammates in equally spectacular fashion.

Then you've got guys who were pretty good before blowing up with a new team; this is generally the case if you're talking about big signings. Teams with superstar receivers tend to hold onto them unless they're TO-type players the staff is tired of having around.

Cris Carter go claimed off of waivers after getting cut by the Eagles (substance abuse problems at the time)

Henry Ellard had three consecutive 1000-yard seasons with the Redskins, but he'd already played eleven with the Rams.

Irving Fryar's kind of an interesting one. 4 of his 5 Pro Bowls came after he turned 30 and having left the team that drafted him. Averaged over 1100 yards the next five seasons playing for the Dolphins and the Eagles.

Charlie Joiner had 3 1000-yard seasons and 2 900-yard seasons after joining San Diego at 29 years old after 7 years playing backup in Houston and Cincy. Played for a decade in San Diego.

Keenan McCardell is a guy who turned into a Pro Bowler after being signed, going from a backup in Cleveland to a starter in Jacksonville. Averaged 83 catches and 1065 yards in his six seasons there after something of a breakout year his last year in Cleveland, where he had 56 catches for 709 yards. Jacksonville is crossing their fingers they got it right again this year with Laurent Robinson.

Derrick Mason was quite productive in Baltimore after leaving the Titans, as has Anquan Boldin.

Keyshawn Johnson was a solid player after leaving New York for Tampa, but is another one of those guys who coaching staffs didn't seem eager to keep around once his talents began to diminish.

But the thing is with free agent signings, you're talking about projecting how a guy is going to play in a system other than the one on which he built his reputation, or else you're talking about an old guy whose team is trying to get younger, or a young guy a team is letting go to seek greener pastures. Teams just generally don't let superstars go in their prime, so there aren't a lot of instances where a free agent goes to another team and changes their fortunes; seems like a lot of the best individual players are guys whose teams also experienced enough success that the players were re-signed in order to continue it. If those guys are leaving teams, it's because they're getting on towards or past 30, or there's something else wrong with them. (*ahem*, Terrell.) Guys like Randle El, or whoever, are just examples of dumb owners like Snyder thinking players who've never been starters will somehow play up to their new pay scale.

Originally Posted by bucfan12 (Post 2906497)

Jackson 7catches 111 yds 15.9 avg. vs Revis.

Not many WRs do very well against Revis. I'm sorry, but it just seems like some charger fans are just making themselves feel better about losing there #1 weapon.

And I bet Phillip Rivers isn't too thrilled about it either.

Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 2906825)

Guys like Joey Galloway. At 31, it looks like he's had a pretty decent career between the Seahawks and the Cowboys, but hadn't gone over 1000 yards since he wrecked his knee four years ago. So he signs with the Bucs, presumably to play a couple more years until he really can't before hanging them up. And he responds the way you expect him to, failing to break 500 yards in his first season in Tampa. And then, BOOM! back-to-back-to-back 1000-yard receiving seasons in his mid-thirties. And then, finally, he gets the nagging foot injury. And after that season, is the old guy who eventually can say he played for four teams the last four seasons and is old enough to be a rookie's father. Or Ricky Proehl, just quietly latching onto a team for a few years to catch two passes a game...forever.

"What's that gray thing in the corner locker?"

"Ricky."

"What's he play?"

"He's a receiver. He's as slow as the punter. He sneaks in on third downs and confuses the nickel back."

He played for 7 teams! Why is someone who's good enough to play until he's 38 not good enough for any one team to keep? Good teams! If I remember correctly, he caught passes in..two Super Bowls, wasn't it? For the Panthers, and then the Colts. ****, was he playing for the Rams when they went, too? anyways, you get my drift. It's weird.

Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 2906825)

Guys like Joey Galloway. At 31, it looks like he's had a pretty decent career between the Seahawks and the Cowboys, but hadn't gone over 1000 yards since he wrecked his knee four years ago. So he signs with the Bucs, presumably to play a couple more years until he really can't before hanging them up. And he responds the way you expect him to, failing to break 500 yards in his first season in Tampa. And then, BOOM! back-to-back-to-back 1000-yard receiving seasons in his mid-thirties. And then, finally, he gets the nagging foot injury. And after that season, is the old guy who eventually can say he played for four teams the last four seasons and is old enough to be a rookie's father. Or Ricky Proehl, just quietly latching onto a team for a few years to catch two passes a game...forever.

"What's that gray thing in the corner locker?"

"Ricky."

"What's he play?"

"He's a receiver. He's as slow as the punter. He sneaks in on third downs and confuses the nickel back."

He played for 7 teams! Why is someone who's good enough to play until he's 38 not good enough for any one team to keep? Good teams! If I remember correctly, he caught passes in..two Super Bowls, wasn't it? For the Panthers, and then the Colts. ****, was he playing for the Rams when they went, too? anyways, you get my drift. It's weird.

Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2906841)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ds-new-welker/

Crazy they called me...well look what might be happening now.

Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2906841)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ds-new-welker/

Crazy they called me...well look what might be happening now.

Originally Posted by MasterShake (Post 2906847)

Amendola is in Boston for a funeral.

Originally Posted by WCH (Post 2906860)

To be fair, I think that Colt McCoy is a great player for the system. I just think that the system is 15 years obsolete.

The game has passed Holmgren by.

Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2906862)

Colt McCoy is not a great fit for any pro system because he's got arm strength only slightly better than Ken Dorsey and Kellen Moore. I'd put him about a 2 on the scale of 1-10. 3.5 is the "Kyle Orton Threshold" and is generally believed to be the requirement to run a functional pro offense at he most basic of levels.

Originally Posted by WCH (Post 2906864)

My thinking was that he could have worked out in the early-to-mid-90s, when every WCO team became a contender and LBers ran 4.8 forty times.

Today, he's Ty Detmer. At best.

Originally Posted by Wooty Magic! (Post 2906861)

Heckert is such an idiot. Big ceiling really ?

I mean Trent Edwards had such a big ceiling right...?

Originally Posted by Go_Eagles77 (Post 2906654)

Who else did you sign?

Originally Posted by fear the elf (Post 2906871)

You all may very well be right about McCoy, although I hope not. But Heckert is far from an idiot. He's turned the defense around in two seasons. What did you expect him to say?

"Well, we missed out on RG3 but we are going to do whatever we can to bring in anybody at the QB position because our current guy sucks nuts."