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WinslowBodden 07-29-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlindSite (Post 2634643)
Yep

Also, minnesota is apparently the heavy favourite to sign floyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNBL3o

BlindSite 07-29-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rotoworld
The Chicago Sun Times reports that the Bears are "expected" to sign free agent WR Roy Williams.
The report cites a league source. Williams enjoyed the best season of his career under Bears OC Mike Martz in 2006, making his lone Pro Bowl while setting career highs in receptions (82), yards (1,310), and yards-per-reception average (16.0). Williams, 29, isn't the same player he was five years ago, but Martz's scheme -- theoretically -- gets receivers open on its own. At 6'3/215, Williams also can add needed size to the wideout corps, which will be relied upon more heavily with Greg Olsen gone.

"Ok guys, we've got a great receiving tight end heading into his prime. We'll trade him because our "genius" OC can't use him and sign this washed up **** bag to make up for it." - Jerry Angelo

Ness 07-29-2011 12:48 AM

Holy smokes we signed Akers? Eagles didn't want him or what?

Ness 07-29-2011 12:51 AM

Oh and Crabtree GTFO. Tired of your antics.

JBCX 07-29-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ness (Post 2634658)
Holy smokes we signed Akers? Eagles didn't want him or what?

The Eagles drafted a kicker in the 4th round of this year's draft.

Akers was expendable.

Ness 07-29-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JBCX (Post 2633925)
Vince Young, Michael Vick, Asante Samuel, Desean Jackson, Dominique Rodgers Cromartie...

It'd be a team full of punks. All they would need is Haynesworth to round it out.

What did Asante Samuel do?

Ness 07-29-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JBCX (Post 2634661)
The Eagles drafted a kicker in the 4th round of this year's draft.

Akers was expendable.

Ahhh okay.

JBCX 07-29-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ness (Post 2634665)
What did Asante Samuel do?

He's a flashy, showboating player who refuses to tackle. Not necessarily a "bad guy" but sort of a "punk" in that he plays by his own set of rules and appreciates stats (INTs) more so than solid, fundamental play.

fenikz 07-29-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ness (Post 2634665)
What did Asante Samuel do?

I wonder what DRC did, seems like the nicest kid ever

Ness 07-29-2011 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JBCX (Post 2634668)
He's a flashy, showboating player who refuses to tackle. Not necessarily a "bad guy" but sort of a "punk" in that he plays by his own set of rules and appreciates stats (INTs) more so than solid, fundamental play.

Does he refuse to tackle or is he just not good at it? Because there is a different. I don't recall him developing a reputation for not wanting to tackle like Deion Sanders, just not being good at it. As for flashy, I really don't mind that. As long as it's not hurting anyone. These guys work hard and there are tough games were getting an interception is like a climbing a mountain. Especially after all the hard work you put in week in and week out. These guys are going to be happy when they make big plays for their teams.

fenikz 07-29-2011 01:09 AM

NO FUN ALLOWED!!

:)

i forgot that because of the strike

Complex 07-29-2011 01:15 AM

Nnamdi needs to hurry up and sign.

V.I.P 07-29-2011 01:24 AM

Third day of Free Agency has come to an end.

In terms of bringing in new veterans (not resigning their own, or draft picks), the busiest teams have been:

Carolina Panthers (Four new players)

Seattle Seahawks (Four)

washington Redskins (EIGHT)

The Panthers, Seahawks, and Redskins lead the league in bringing in new players.

With me so far?

Seven teams haven't brought in any new veterans yet:

Atlanta
Baltimore
Dallas
Green Bay
Jets
Raiders (Only in this group because they're over the cap as I type this)
Steelers

We have one new guy (a punter).

Oh, and the Colts just missed the second list because they added third string QB Nate Davis.

I like being closer to the second list of franchises than the first. But that's me.

Hines 07-29-2011 01:42 AM

The Steelers have had a great offseason so far. Now if they lock up Woodley, Timmons, and Polamalu soon, then it'd be a very, very good one.

BeerBaron 07-29-2011 01:52 AM

"Sign Roy Williams? OK!"



Jerry Angelo accidentally the whole football.

Ness 07-29-2011 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by V-I-P (Post 2634682)
Third day of Free Agency has come to an end.

In terms of bringing in new veterans (not resigning their own, or draft picks), the busiest teams have been:

Carolina Panthers (Four new players)

Seattle Seahawks (Four)

washington Redskins (EIGHT)

The Panthers, Seahawks, and Redskins lead the league in bringing in new players.

With me so far?

Seven teams haven't brought in any new veterans yet:

Atlanta
Baltimore
Dallas
Green Bay
Jets
Raiders (Only in this group because they're over the cap as I type this)
Steelers

We have one new guy (a punter).

Oh, and the Colts just missed the second list because they added third string QB Nate Davis.

I like being closer to the second list of franchises than the first. But that's me.

So Nate Davis has a home.

Gay Ork Wang 07-29-2011 02:40 AM

i actually like the idea of Roy Williams. He knows the system, he knows martz and we needed a big receiver. Now trading Olsen was ****** up but at least Kellen Davis has showed flashes.

GaMeTiMe 07-29-2011 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JBCX (Post 2634668)
He's a flashy, showboating player who refuses to tackle. Not necessarily a "bad guy" but sort of a "punk" in that he plays by his own set of rules and appreciates stats (INTs) more so than solid, fundamental play.

What?

You are spewing absolute garbage everywhere.

First of all, Vince Young, DeSean Jackson, Asante Samuel and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie sounds like an extremely explosive and dangerous foursome of NFL players and not once would people say "wow, that team would blow up in the locker room" - even if Young does seem to be a bit of a headcase at times.

I only removed Michael Vick from that list and I'm not going to start defending him because it's not worth the argument but if there's a model way to behave as a role model both on the field and off he is doing it. How often to we see guys (or "punks") like that get out of jail and find themselves right back in it, or at least flirting with it. Say what you want about what he did before we were associated with him, since we signed him he's been nothing but a hard worker and team leader.

What team are you a fan of? Because there's nothing wrong with being a "flashy, showboating player" as long as it isn't drawing penalties or fines. Corners and receivers have that attitude and MUST have that attitude to succeed in the league.

Don't get into the specifics of Asante's strengths/weaknesses to make statement on his character and value to a team. He's an absolute horrible tackler, and I can tell you that while we robbed Arizona for Kolb no one is really lining up to buy those DRC jerseys the official Eagles site had on sale a day before the trade - he's not the physical, run-supporting outside corner we really need. If anything, he's here to push Asante off the roster in a year or two to make way for Curtis Marsh, but that's a completely different story. My point here is that while Asante is horrible in that aspect of the game he makes up for it by being a tremendous ball-hawk, and that's not playing by your own rules or only caring about one thing or the other.


Andy Reid would've never signed Vince Young without Jeff Fisher's discretion - let's get that straight. Backing up and studying under a re-invigorated, re-invented Michael Vick is the smartest move this kid could've made. I understand he wasn't generating much interest as a starter and had to accept a role like this, but it's a blessing in disguise for him as it really should set his career on the right path. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if it was in Philadelphia if he's willing to sign long-term after this year and still possibly back-up for one more season. Or if the organization has the balls to let Vick walk and choose to bring Young back. They'll both be free agents.

diabsoule 07-29-2011 05:26 AM

Being reported that Jermon Bushrod's contract is worth $9.8 million with a $3.5 million signing bonus

BloodBrother 07-29-2011 06:40 AM

Bears sign Roy Williams. Crappy move IMO

Quote:

AdamSchefter

An agreement: Chicago is reuniting former Cowboys WR Roy Williams w/ Bears OC Mike Martz, who helped coach Williams to Pro Bowl in Detroit.

Monomach 07-29-2011 06:49 AM

In a vacuum, I'm happy with the Roy Williams signing. After all...despite his flaws, he's still the best receiver on our roster now.

However, I really hate the signing.

a) This is going to be used as justification for the atrocious Olsen trade
b) This is going to be used as justification for us not pursuing MSW or Braylon
c) This shows that Mike Martz is pulling the strings in Chicago now
d) We've probably given him a real contract for real money rather than the incentive-laden pittance that he's earned

Ron Turner 2009: 327 points
Mike Martz 2010: 334 points

We know that Ron Turner is a tard. That's well-established...but doesn't this make Mike Martz the dumbest genius ever?

SeanTaylorRIP 07-29-2011 06:56 AM

Roy might be the tallest WR on the roster but he's most certainly not the best. MSW and Braylon are far better players, although the move would be nice if they could sign one of those guys.

BloodBrother 07-29-2011 07:02 AM

I get that Martz doesn't utilize the TE much in his scheme and usually has them back blocking. Thing is though, Olsen is one of those rare athletic TE's who cause defenses fits

So much for a coordinator adjusting his schemes to fit the roster.

bearsfan_51 07-29-2011 07:09 AM

That's Mike Martz. He's stubborn. You take the bad with the good. In that sense, even though I think the trade is awful, I understand from Angelo's position that you get your coaches the players they want to run their schemes. I'm just surprised we couldn't do better.

On the Roy Williams front, judging the signing in isolation (i.e. not letting my disappointment with Olson cloud judgment), I think the signing at least makes sense. I'm not looking for him to have 1000 yards receiving, I just hope he can take Olson's place in the red zone, where our lack of height has hurt us in the past.

Gay Ork Wang 07-29-2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Monomach (Post 2634758)
In a vacuum, I'm happy with the Roy Williams signing. After all...despite his flaws, he's still the best receiver on our roster now.

However, I really hate the signing.

a) This is going to be used as justification for the atrocious Olsen trade
b) This is going to be used as justification for us not pursuing MSW or Braylon
c) This shows that Mike Martz is pulling the strings in Chicago now
d) We've probably given him a real contract for real money rather than the incentive-laden pittance that he's earned

Ron Turner 2009: 327 points
Mike Martz 2010: 334 points

We know that Ron Turner is a tard. That's well-established...but doesn't this make Mike Martz the dumbest genius ever?

**** with the amount of points we scored. You have mike martz offense, one of the most complicated offenses ever in its first year, against Ron turner who has worked with the team a million years.


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