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New and Improved Free Agency Discussion and News Mega-Thread
With Free Agency set to start I thought we could use a new thread.
Resources: List of Free Agents by team http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...By+Team&y=2011 List of Free Agents by Position http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=QB&y=2011 Signings: http://www.nfl.com/news http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/ http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...by+Team&y=2011 @AdamSchefter @mortreport @FootballPost @adbrandt @ClarkJudgeCBS @SI_JimTrotter @MarkMaske @judybattista @SportsLawGuy @dkaplanSBJ @SBJLizMullen Discuss signings as they happen and or guys who're up for free agency there's already a thread here with a fantasy type predictions, but I'll keep this one and the following post for a list of who's been signed and for what when it becomes available. Dates to watch -4th and final edit Monday night: The NFL will release a complete list of the free agents for the 2011 season. Tuesday: At 10 a.m., team facilities will open and trades can begin. Teams can begin signing their own drafted rookies and other undrafted free agents. They can also negotiate with other teams’ free agents — however, they can’t sign those players yet. Wednesday-Sunday: Training camp opens for all teams. (The Patriots will hold their conditioning work on Wednesday, and open camp to the media and the public on Thursday.) The opening of training camps across the league is as follows: •Camp opens Wednesday for Arizona, Baltimore, Dallas, Denver, Jacksonville, Patriots, Oakland, Philadelphia, San Diego and Seattle. •Camp opens Thursday for Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Kansas City, Miami, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Tampa Bay and Washington. •Camp opens Friday for Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cleveland, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota, New York Giants, St. Louis and Tennessee. •Camp opens Sunday for Houston and New York Jets. Friday: Starting at 6 p.m., teams can sign other teams’ free agents — the start of full free agency. |
Signings by team
AFC New England Patriots Logan Mankins G (F) Sammy Morris RB Albert Haynesworth DT TRADE Chad Ochocinco WR TRADE Kyle Arrington DB Buffalo Bills Drayton Florence CB Tyler Thigpen QB Brad Smith WR/RB/Wildcat Nick Barnett LB New York Jets Santonio Holmes WR Nick Folk K Wayne Hunter T Chris Byran P Plaxico Burress WR Mark Brunell QB Antonio Cromartie CB Miami Dolphins Reggie Bush RB TRADE Kevin Burnett ILB Matt Moore QB Ronald Fields DT Pittsburgh Steelers Ike Taylor CB Shaun Suisham K Greg Warren LS Baltimore Ravens Marshall Yanda OG/OT Chris Carr CB Vonta Leach FB Casey Rabach OL Cincinatti Bengals Bruce Gradkowski QB Nate Clements CB Thomas Howard LB Brian Leonard RB/FB Cedric Benson RB Manny Lawson OLB Cleveland Browns Brandon Jackson RB John Greco G Usama Young S Derrek Robinson Jayme Mitchell DE Dimitri Patterson CB Indianapolis Colts Melvin Bullitt S Adam Vinatieri K Peyton Manning QB Antonio Johnson DT Eric Foster DT Michael Toudouze IT Kyle DeVan G Ernie Sims LB Jacksonville Jaguars Paul Posluszny ILB Jason Spitz C/G Matt Turk P Dawan Landry S Clint Session LB Drew Coleman CB Houston Texans Jacoby Jones WR Matt Leinart QB Danieal Manning S Johnathan Joseph CB Kasey Studdard G Mike Brisiel G Brad Maynard P Tennessee Titans Matt Hasselbeck QB Barrett Ruud LB Shaun Smith DT Daniel Graham TE Denver Broncos Matt Prater K Willis McGahee RB Eric Decker WR David Anderson WR Daneil Fells TE Marcus Tomas DL Dante Rosario TE Broderick Bunkley DT Ty Warren DT Kansas City Chiefs Steve Breaston WR Jon McGraw S Casey Weigmann C Brandon Siler LB San Diego Chargers Eric Weddle S Takeo Spikes LB Billy Volek QB Randy McMichael TE Jeromey Clary T Vincent Jackson WR (F) Kelley Washington WR Travis La'Boy LB Mike Tolbert FB Oakland Raiders Jon Condo LS Trent Edwards QB Jarvis Moss DE Michael Huff S Stephen Hoyer OL NFC Greenbay Packers Mason Crosby K John Kuhn FB James Jones WR Chicago Bears Vernon Ghoulston DE Nick Roach LB Caleb Haine QB Sam Hurd WR Anthony Adams DT Marion Barber RB Amobi Okoye DT Roy Williams WR Chris Spencer C Detroit Lions Dave Rayner K Drew Stanton QB John Wending S Eric Wright CB Dylan Gandy G Maurice Leggett CB Justin Durant Chris Houston CB Stephen Tulloch LB Maurice Stovall WR Minnesota Vikings Donovan McNabb TRADE From Washington Devin Aromashodu Michael Jenkins WR Fred Evans DT Ryan Longwell K Charlie Johnson OT/OG Dallas Cowboys Doug Free OT Marcus Spears DE Jason Hatcher DE Washington Redskins Santana Moss WR re-signed Barry Cofield DT Josh Wilson CB Dante Stallworth WR Jammal Brown T Brandon Stokely WR Josh Wilson CB Stephen Bowen DT HB Blades ILB Phillip Buchanon CB Tim Hightower RB Philadelphia Eagles Jason Babin DE Vince Young QB Nnamdi Asomugha CB Cullen Jenkins DE/DT Donald Lee TE Johnny Lee-Higgins WR Evan Mathis G Ronnie Brown RB New York Giants David Baas G Chris White C Kevin Boothe G Steve Weatherford P David Carr QB Chris White C Ahmad Bradshaw RB Michael Clayton WR Tampa Bay Buccaneers Quincy Black OLB Jeremy Trueblood T Davin Joseph G Michael Koenen P New Orleans Saints Lance Moore WR Darren Sproles RB Roman Harper S Danny Clark LB Korey Hall FB Pierson Prioleau S Fabian Washington DB Aubrayo Franklin DT Carolina Panthers Charles Johnson DE DeAngelo Williams RB Olindo Mare K James Anderson LB Thomas Davis LB Ron Edwards DT Omar Gaither LB Derek Anderson "QB" Greg Olsen TE TRADE Atlanta Falcons Stephen Nicholas OLB Tyson Clabo T Ray Edwards DE Matt Bryant K Justin Blalock G San Francisco 49ers Alex Smith QB re-signed Ray McDonald DE David Akers K Madieu Williams S Antwan Applewhite LB Seattle Seahawks Tavaris Jackson QB Sidney Rice WR Brandon MeBane DT Robert Gallery G LeRoy Hill LB Brandon Coutu K Alan Branch DT Kelly Jennings CB Zach Miller TE Arizona Cardinals Kevin Kolb QB TRADE from Philadelphia Jeff King TE DAnthony Batiste T Stephen Spach TE Duce Lutui G Reagan Maui'a FB Chansi Stuckey WR Hamza Abdullah S Floyd Womack G Richard Marshall CB Stewart Bradley LB Todd Heap TE Vonnie Holiday DE St Louis Rams Quentin Mikell S Darren Colledge G Al Harris CB Zac Diles LB Harvey Dahl G Justin Bannan DT Mike Sims-Walker WR Daniel Muir DT |
News before the FA period begins: [place holder post]
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Rumor is it's atlanta and Charles Johnson. new post lockout news Word out of Miami is that NYG free agent RB Bradshaw has landed there today [monday], negotiations cannot begin until tomorrow [tuesday]. So don't expect to hear more till then. Released players: Bears Brad Maynard (P) Eagles David Aikers (K) - technically not a release, his transition tag no long applies Ravens Kelly Gregg (DT) Todd Heap (TE) Willis McGahee (RB) Derrick Mason (WR) Packers Nick Barnett (ILB) Cincinatti Carson Palmer (QB, retired) Cowboys Marion Barber (RB) Roy Williams (WR) Mark Columbo Leonard Davis Cardinals Derek Anderson |
From ESPNs John Clayton http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/67...cid=espn-twttr
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With all that cap space, it makes me wonder if the Bengals will be a surprise landing spot for a big name free agent or two. Maybe a big name RB and/or top O-lineman.
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Keep in mind those figures don't take into account draft picks (and UDFAs) signing OR restricted free agents (or, I assume, franchised players).
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Interesting thing is there is a cap floor. Tampa is going to have to almost sign another team. With their depth just about everywhere I can see them picking up one or two players for good money and extending a lot of their young players who're already producing beyond their deals. News and OP updated with important dates |
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See above, on the 23rd they can negotiate so it's likely the guys like Aso, Charles Johnson, Peyton Manning will be getting their balls tickled all day on the 23rd allowing their teams a full 4 days to consider whether or not they want to match or beat offers from other teams (should their players disclose details).
imo, we'll see some guys no longer available by the 27th, anyone who hasn't been signed by that day I'd assume won't be returning to their respective former teams. |
With all the Money the Bengals have to spend they better keep Joseph now or i am going to be pissed.
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DeAngelo probably won't leave, see my post in the news, Jerry Richardson has openly been telling everyone fans, reporters everyone that the Panthers are going to be really aggressive. Santonio is a merc he'll go to the highest bidder imo. |
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Here's a really interesting interview done with sports agent Ron Del Duca. He discusses some things that I hadn't even thought about regarding this upcoming Free Agency.
Here's a few highlights... * All the agents have technically been decertified as well. * Alot of puffery. * Anybody can represent anyone at any price. * There are no rules and regulations. * People could potentially give "value" to players for being represented by them. * There's already been alot of movement between agents and players. The bulk of the FA talk begins at 4:47. http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/...nhall-lawsuit/ |
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Just because the Panthers are going to go hard after him doesn't mean he has to sign with you guys. It's not like it's the Panthers decision here. Somebody else is going to offer just as much as Carolina if not more. |
even after signing Peppers we still have 37 Million? Lets get a ******* OLINE
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Tampa are 60 mil under :\
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Just learned that by cutting Vince Young, Justin Gage and Chris Hope's contracts... the Titans will be about 30 million under the new CBA.
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The big winners in this are teams that already pretty much have a whole team that will just be upgrading certain spots and signing current players to extensions. The Chiefs will end up looking really good once free agency hits.
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Bears are $37 Million under? Resign Danieal Manning, grab one of the top guards, and then go after either Sidney Rice or a corner.
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Some dude on ESPN radio said the minimum salary requirement applies to the end of the season, meaning teams will not be forced to reach that mark before the start of the season, if they don't want to. A team can enter the season under the minimum and still reach it at the end by doing things like signing veterans to new contracts.
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Updated OP, waiting to hear some more news before I update the expected dates for things to start occurring.
I also heard some rumors about teams tampering with at least one of Carolina's Free Agents allegedly it's atlanta going after johnson. Just a rumor at this point. |
So I've got a question here. The Vikings would be a likely landing spot for a safety this off-season, and two names I've heard thrown around are Weddle and Bullitt.
I know when we signed Madieu Williams, I was stoked but he turned out to be a dud, which i should have known since Bengal fans were happy he was gone. So basically, can any knowledgable colts/chargers fans give me the low-down on Weddle or Bullitt? Are they any good or are you happy to see them (maybe) leave? |
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Madieu is due something like 5.6 mill this season, he got a massive deal something like 30-35 over 5/6 seasons so I expect him getting cut. |
The fact that we may not be able to retain Doug Free makes me feel pretty uneasy. He's probably the top Tackle in this FA class and we're like 20 million over the cap.
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Atari Bigby is now expendable. And he's currently healthy. He'd prefer to play in Miami, or somewhere down South. But the dude ain't Troy Polamalu and won't have teams lining up for his services. |
Chicago $37. million under
Maybe a Bears fan can help me out here, but with a cap figure like that, would the Bears make a move on Nnamdi? He would be another dominant defensive player on an already great defense and is probably of the same mindset/age as the other leaders on the team (Wanting to win now). |
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I'd say it's unlikely the Bears go after him due to the amount of $$ he will command & their philosophy overall. Bears will probably go after one of the big name guards, resign some of their own players, and then go after a different corner. |
Bears- Braylon Edwards and Brandon Mebane + extension for Israel Idonije and maybe Greg Olson (both in last year of contract)
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The Vikings are a great example of why you don't build through FA (besides the obvious Redskins). They are going to have to scrap that team from the bottom up, and are still currently 5 mil over the cap.
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Still, Peppers & Cutler weren't home-grown draftees either, and they are their most important additions of the past 2-3 years. |
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Dang. First, look for them to target Packer players like Cullen Jenkins and James Jones perhaps. |
My Top Ten FREE AGENTS:
1. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders 2. Sidney Rice, WR, Minnesota Vikings 3. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Carolina Panthers 4. Cullen Jenkins, DE/DT, Green Bay Packers 5. Johnathan Joseph, CB, Cincinnati Bengals 6. Charles Johnson, DE, Carolina Panthers: 7. Santonio Holmes, WR, NY Jets 8. Braylon Edwards, WR, NY Jets 9. Ray Edwards, DE, Minnesota Vikings 10. Brandon Mebane, DT, Seattle Seahawks As a Packer fan, I hope the fact that there are 3 big name WRs here, plus 2 Steve Smiths and a Randy Moss & Terrell Owens, will lead to there being no market for my bitterfingered-James Jones, who I want to keep. The guy makes a lot of plays, even though he also has dropped a lot of big plays. He dropped 2 perfect TD passes in the playoffs (Philly & Pittsburgh), which allowed the games to then go down to the wire where luck played a major factor. Had he caught em both, each game would have been a more convincing win. But he gets open an awful lot to be able to be in that position so often. |
Ten guys I'd have no problems with giving a market-value contract to:
1. WR Sidney Rice, Vikings (24) 2. TE Zach Miller, Raiders (25) 3. OT Doug Free, Cowboys (27) 4. OG Marshal Yanda, Ravens (26) 5. DE Charles Johnson, Panthers (25) 6. DT Brandon Mebane, Seahawks (26) 7. DT Cullen Jenkins, Packers (30) 8. LB Matt Roth, Browns (28) 9. LB Paul Posluszny, Bills (26) 10. FS Eric Weddle, Chargers (26) Some thoughts on a few of the guys I would probably hold off on: Nnamdi Asomugha is 30 years old, are you paying him $15-20 million a year for what he is going to do each season moving forwards, or based on what he did in the past? Ray Edwards is a well-rounded defensive end, but the market for him seems out of control. I'd be more willing to pay a guy like Charles Johnson who's younger. Santonio Holmes might not be the kind of guy you want to pay...seems like somewhat of a disruption in the locker room and is someone I could see getting into trouble. DeAngelo Williams is a quality starting running back with a few years left, but is coming off of an injury, and free agent running backs signed to big deals historically haven't worked out well. Jason Babin was mediocre for his entire career before putting it together this season. Still, he's 31 years old and frequently misses time due to injury. Count me out. Michael Huff seems like he might be the kind of guy to put it together for his payday...riskier than a lot of the other safeties available, most of whom are more consistent. |
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