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KCStud 09-17-2011 08:54 PM

Landry Jones Won't Succeed in the NFL
 
I've seen enough of him to tell. Over a year and the same problems still occur. He is a system QB. He can't handle the pressure well at all, especially on the road. Yes he might break the record for most passing yards, but it's inflated.
Look at who he's throwing the ball to? Ryan Broyles and Kenny Stills will both be first round picks and the OL is well above average.
It's not a coincidence that the first time FSU got pressure on Jones he threw a pick. How's he gonna handle pressure like that consistently in the NFL?
I like the kid. I really do. He's got a strong arm and is driven. But would I spend a first round pick on him? No.

BeerBaron 09-17-2011 09:00 PM

Pretty much everything you said there can also be said about nearly any spread QB who will or has come out recently. It's way too early to panic.

FUNBUNCHER 09-17-2011 09:15 PM

Landry Jones will win a NC. He's at least IMO the equal of Bradford.

Not succeed?? I don't know how you can say that about him.

Anytime you get consistent pressure on any college QB their game suffers.

Brent 09-17-2011 09:20 PM

one game is all I need to properly judge a prospect!

asdf1223 09-17-2011 09:26 PM

Didnt we make the exact same argument with Bradford? Saying Trent Williams, Duke Robinson and Phil Loadholt made him better than he was and he was going to wilt under pressure?

Shane P. Hallam 09-17-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent (Post 2680474)
one game is all I need to properly judge a prospect!

I think he's played more than one game...

Complex 09-17-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2680462)
Landry Jones will win a NC. He's at least IMO the equal of Bradford.

Not succeed?? I don't know how you can say that about him.

Anytime you get consistent pressure on any college QB their game suffers.

No, Bradford was more accurate and had a quicker release.

KCStud 09-17-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2680462)
Landry Jones will win a NC. He's at least IMO the equal of Bradford.

Not succeed?? I don't know how you can say that about him.

Anytime you get consistent pressure on any college QB their game suffers.

He is nowhere near Bradford. Bradford was extremely accurate all over the field. Jones isn't very accurate beyond 15 yards.

And this isn't based off tonight. He did the same thing last year at MU, OSU and A&M.
He can't lead the team on the road with elite talent in college. What's he gonna do when he goes to the NFL and he doesn't have elite players at almost every position?

SickwithIt1010 09-17-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2680462)
Landry Jones will win a NC. He's at least IMO the equal of Bradford.

Not succeed?? I don't know how you can say that about him.

Anytime you get consistent pressure on any college QB their game suffers.

No chance in hell. He cant hold Bradford's jock.

DcmRulz 09-17-2011 09:56 PM

Yeah, I doubt Landry is going to be Bradford good. Franchise QB no, but certainly starter quality.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH 09-17-2011 11:28 PM

Landry is much closer to Jason White than Bradford. His accuracy beyond 10 yards is pretty meh, and his arm strength is average to below average. I don't see what's to like about him, I see a 5th-6th rounder.

SenorGato 09-17-2011 11:58 PM

Agreed to the max.

Brent 09-18-2011 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 2680487)
I think he's played more than one game...

Shane, the post was made during the game, it's clearly a reactionary post.

Halsey 09-18-2011 12:56 PM

The criticisms of Jones in this thread seem like the same lazy, generic criticisms thrown out for 1,000 previous qbs on this board. I don't know if jones will succeed in the NFL, and I can tell no one here does either. You're just copying and pasting the same stuff people on these boards often say when a big name qb prospect has a less than dominant game.

TuckNole 09-18-2011 08:37 PM

Should also be noted that Jones might have been going up against the nations best secondary.

Rhodes, Harris, Reid are all future NFL corners and Joyner is playing lights out at free safety.

TACKLE 09-18-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2680462)
He's at least IMO the equal of Bradford.

in what way?

OGDraft 09-24-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCStud (Post 2680441)
Look at who he's throwing the ball to? Ryan Broyles and Kenny Stills will both be first round picks

lol @ Broyles in the 1st round.

Razor 09-25-2011 11:06 AM

Wow, the stupidity of this thread is just mind blowing. Jones isn't quite Sam Bradford, but he's not that far behind. Calling him a system QB just seems dumb, especially after his predecessor (a system QB according to critics, myself inclusive) went on to be a good NFL QB. I learned my lesson: talented QBs can adapt, and Landry is both talented and intelligent enough to make the transition. Using Broyles and Stills is just further evidence that you don't have a ******* clue about what you're talking about.

keylime_5 09-25-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuckNole (Post 2682933)
Should also be noted that Jones might have been going up against the nations best secondary.

Rhodes, Harris, Reid are all future NFL corners and Joyner is playing lights out at free safety.

tell that to sammy watkins and tajh boyd, yikes.

BeerBaron 09-25-2011 11:28 AM

Why do I feel like this thread will become a version of the "Will Mark Sanchez Hold the Jets Back?" thread.

Any time Jones has a good game, the defenders will come in here saying "see! see! I told you!"

And when he has a lousy game, the critics will fire right back.

SolidGold 09-25-2011 12:02 PM

I thought Jones played well last night, he showed good accuracy and a strong arm. He can make all the throws. His deep ball is just weird to me...it seems to have alot more arch to it...like when it leaves his hand to when it lands is a perfect semicircle. Probably just a case of putting to much touch on the ball.

GoBroncos 09-25-2011 08:47 PM

I know I am not a usual poster to this website, but some of the replies on this thread is just ******* ********. A lot of the criticisms Landry Jones have are the exact same ones Sam Bradford. Let's remember, Landry Jones isn't playing with nearly the same caliber players Bradford had. They both got to play with Broyles, but Bradford also had TE Jermaine Gresham, 2 drafted WR's in Iglesias and Manuel Johnson, and an NFL RB Demarco Murray. Landry Jones has probably one guy on his offense who will make an NFL roster. All the other WR's/RB's aren't NFL caliber at ALL. I also see people comparing Landry to Jason White. Let's face it, Jason White never had a chance to make an NFL roster after 2 ACL tears. His knee wouldn't hold up over the course of a grueling 16 game NFL season. Landry Jones will be a decent QB in the NFL, just like Bradford will be.

Big Bird 09-25-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoBroncos (Post 2690631)
I know I am not a usual poster to this website, but some of the replies on this thread is just ******* ********. A lot of the criticisms Landry Jones have are the exact same ones Sam Bradford. Let's remember, Landry Jones isn't playing with nearly the same caliber players Bradford had. They both got to play with Broyles, but Bradford also had TE Jermaine Gresham, 2 drafted WR's in Iglesias and Manuel Johnson, and an NFL RB Demarco Murray. Landry Jones has probably one guy on his offense who will make an NFL roster. All the other WR's/RB's aren't NFL caliber at ALL. I also see people comparing Landry to Jason White. Let's face it, Jason White never had a chance to make an NFL roster after 2 ACL tears. His knee wouldn't hold up over the course of a grueling 16 game NFL season. Landry Jones will be a decent QB in the NFL, just like Bradford will be.

Okay, now you're the one that sounds like you have never watched an Oklahoma game in the last decade.

You mention Bradford playing with Igelsias and Johnson, two average college receivers and NFL nobodies, but don't mention Malcolm Kelly, the guy who wasn't the highest regarded NFL prospect of the three?

And then, you rip Landry Jones surrounding talent by saying he has only one NFL caliber player with him, but fail to realize the talent of Kenny Stills. No, it's not the same surrounding talent Bradford had (you also fail to mention the Offensive Line Bradford had, another sign that you have watch next to nil, which had Phil Loadholt and George "Duke" Robinson who were highly regarded by same), but it's still solid. They aren't rated #2 in the nation solely because of Landry Jones and Ryan Broyles...

GoBroncos 09-26-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2690763)
Okay, now you're the one that sounds like you have never watched an Oklahoma game in the last decade.

You mention Bradford playing with Igelsias and Johnson, two average college receivers and NFL nobodies, but don't mention Malcolm Kelly, the guy who wasn't the highest regarded NFL prospect of the three?

And then, you rip Landry Jones surrounding talent by saying he has only one NFL caliber player with him, but fail to realize the talent of Kenny Stills. No, it's not the same surrounding talent Bradford had (you also fail to mention the Offensive Line Bradford had, another sign that you have watch next to nil, which had Phil Loadholt and George "Duke" Robinson who were highly regarded by same), but it's still solid. They aren't rated #2 in the nation solely because of Landry Jones and Ryan Broyles...

Yeah, I know EXACTLY who Bradford played with. He also played Brody Eldrigde a FB who got drafted and plays for the Indianapolis Colts, Trent Williams a LT who went number 4 for to the Washington Redskins. He also played with 2 1000 yard rushers in Chris Brown and Demarco Murray. LOL You don't have to question my knowledge of College football. LOL, I will make you look like an idiot.

Landry Jones didn't have the same personal around him that Bradford had, but yet put up better numbers. As for Malcolm Kelly? He was a great WR in college, but he was never going to amount to much in the NFL even if he came back from his injuries. He didn't have elite speed to create separation from NFL CB's. His athleticism got him by in college, but it is a whole different story at the next level. His pro day was HORRIBLE. He ran like a 4.8 forty!

Anything else arse clown?

no bare feet 10-19-2011 07:19 AM

Cool Jerseys Bro.
I like Landry Jones, he has progressed quite a bit since the first game.


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