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shylo3716 11-20-2011 07:16 PM

Do Prospects Follow Mock Drafts?
 
Does anyone not buy into collegiate prospects saying they do not follow mocks?

Brothgar 11-20-2011 07:21 PM

Obviously some do some don't you wouldn't see Brady Quinn nearly in tears if he didn't follow mock drafts.

shylo3716 11-20-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by broth223 (Post 2757835)
Obviously some do some don't you wouldn't see Brady Quinn nearly in tears if he didn't follow mock drafts.

I would like to know the purpose of these guys lying to GMs reporters etc. during the Draft process about it.

It's not like they're committing a crime for following the boards.

TACKLE 11-20-2011 08:40 PM

of course they do.

CashmoneyDrew 11-20-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 2757870)
I would like to know the purpose of these guys lying to GMs reporters etc. during the Draft process about it.

It's not like they're committing a crime for following the boards.

It's just one of those things. They want GMs, owners, coaches, and even the fans thinking they're focusing on getting prepared/working hard instead of worrying about what others think of them.

Shane P. Hallam 11-20-2011 09:20 PM

Obviously they do. Agents do for them, I know for fact. Heck, scouts and GMs do. It would be dumb not to...

holt_bruce81 11-20-2011 10:48 PM

I don't see how you couldn't lol, I'd be checking that **** like everyday.

ellsy82 11-21-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81 (Post 2758308)
I don't see how you couldn't lol, I'd be checking that **** like everyday.

Exactly...its only human nature to know where you stand.

MetSox17 11-21-2011 03:09 AM

If i'm not mistaken there was a famous story about Bill Walsh and the 49ers, jumping ahead of the Dallas Cowboys to draft Jerry Rice because they saw he was being mocked to Dallas at 17. And to think he could have been a Cowboy..

drd23 11-26-2011 03:26 AM

Just ask Channing Crowder

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“Mel Kiper and all, he messed me over, he lied to me, told me I was top 20, had me go out and spend X amount of dollars and then owe the bank stuff,” Crowder said, according to SportsRadioInterviews.com. “So I don’t know the guys. They’re guessing just like we guess. I can guess who the Dolphins are going to take too. But I look at it a little bit and hear the ‘experts,’ I guess they call them, to see what they say.”

bucfan12 11-26-2011 10:02 AM

They do, but they also wait and see the advisory board. Some mockdrafts, for example, back in 2010, had Jake Locker pegged as a top 3 pick.

Then, the Draft Advisory Board gave him a 2nd round grade. He pulled out for another year. So, my point: They follow mock drafts to a point, but the advisory grade is pretty much what makes or breaks there decision to declare early.

PossibleCabbage 11-26-2011 12:02 PM

Do they read them? Absolutely. If you were a talented football player, wouldn't you want to read people gush about you on the internet? I mean, I don't play football but if people wanted to say nice things about me, I would like to read them.

Do they put much stock in them? As the cautionary tale of Mr. Crowder points out, they shouldn't.

Weeze 11-28-2011 06:27 AM

I think that some of players don't put too much stock into them, but there are players that obviously do. Wasn't Michael Crabtree's holdout based on the fact that he wanted a contract equal to or greater than heyward-bey because the experts thought crabtree was better than him?

shylo3716 11-28-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Weeze (Post 2766919)
I think that some of players don't put too much stock into them, but there are players that obviously do. Wasn't Michael Crabtree's holdout based on the fact that he wanted a contract equal to or greater than heyward-bey because the experts thought crabtree was better than him?

That scenario makes a lot of sense.

underscore 11-28-2011 03:34 PM

Of course they do. And they read message boards. Most probably get some good entertainment out of it all.

GaMeTiMe 11-28-2011 08:25 PM

I'm not saying they "follow" mock drafts, but they all definitely look at them from time to time. Without websites to organize all of the players into positions and rankings it'd just be a mess and there wouldn't be any consensus, and no emotion in the draft at all.

Not sure how many prospects look at multiple mocks and not just Kiper/McShay's, but they definitely know what the expectations are, at least for the first round.

Brent 11-29-2011 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MetSox17 (Post 2758435)
If i'm not mistaken there was a famous story about Bill Walsh and the 49ers, jumping ahead of the Dallas Cowboys to draft Jerry Rice because they saw he was being mocked to Dallas at 17. And to think he could have been a Cowboy..

it wasn't because of a mock draft, it was due to the Cowboys showing interest in him prior to the draft.

PossibleCabbage 11-29-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GaMeTiMe (Post 2767762)
Not sure how many prospects look at multiple mocks and not just Kiper/McShay's, but they definitely know what the expectations are, at least for the first round.

If they don't personally know about other mocks, I'm sure they have friends and family who will tell them about it.

K Train 11-29-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage (Post 2763845)
Do they read them? Absolutely. If you were a talented football player, wouldn't you want to read people gush about you on the internet? I mean, I don't play football but if people wanted to say nice things about me, I would like to read them.

Do they put much stock in them? As the cautionary tale of Mr. Crowder points out, they shouldn't.

lol its not always very nice

stl705 11-29-2011 10:22 PM

I think a lot of them try not to read into it.. obviously they know what people are saying about them, a message board or individual mock draft tells them nothing they don't already know.. this is their agents and I would bet the locks are for family and friends to debate publicly... most of these guys think their the best anyway, a mock draft would be putting them lower in their own eyes.

akvikefan89 11-30-2011 01:02 AM

I bet they look at the "big" ones (aka Kiper, Mayock, etc.)

But I doubt they scrounge the internet eating em all up...


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