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CMR#20 12-12-2011 11:25 AM

Will the Chiefs Consider a QB Now?
 
ESPN has reported that Todd Haley has just been fired with 3 games left. Does this mean the Chiefs take a quarterback if their picking high enough?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73...gling-team-5-8

vidae 12-12-2011 11:29 AM

I sure as **** hope so. If we hire Josh ******* McDaniels they'll probably roll with Cassel and we'll suck even worse next year, but if Pioli pulls his head out of his ass and hires a coach who knows what he's doing, I think QB is a very real possibility.

Shane P. Hallam 12-12-2011 11:29 AM

I think it is possible, but Pioli isn't going anywhere. He may want to stick with Cassel, but if a franchise QB is staring them in the face, it would be tough to pass.

JBCX 12-12-2011 11:43 AM

Trading up for Matt Barkley. Book it.

jrdrylie 12-12-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JBCX (Post 2786312)
Trading up for Matt Barkley. Book it.

I could see them trading up to three to get him. Minnesota will likely take Matt Kalil. The Rams would have their eye on him. If he is gone, I think the Rams would be very happy to trade back to get better value on Claiborne or Blackmon. And with Miami, Jacksonville, and Washington ahead of them, the Chiefs are going to have to trade up to get a QB unless they really like Tannehill or Jones.

vidae 12-12-2011 11:56 AM

I'd trade up for any of the big 3 QBs and not even blink (shutup Shane!).

descendency 12-12-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie (Post 2786335)
I could see them trading up to three to get him. Minnesota will likely take Matt Kalil. The Rams would have their eye on him.

What? You must mean another team...

ArkyRamsFan 12-12-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2786347)
What? You must mean another team...

He meant the Rams would have their eye on Matt Kalil which is very true. However, should the **** Vikes steal him from his rightful place with the Rams, I am very sure we would be very receptive to trading down, stockpiling more picks (more picks = more opportunities to screw ourselves!) and then select Blackmon or maybe Claiborne.

Also, since tonight's game will be one of epic ugliness, please, please hide your women and your elderly. And do NOT let your children watch as they will probably swear off NFL football forever and go over to the dark side and become soccer fans or something...

PossibleCabbage 12-12-2011 02:59 PM

I think if Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, Robert Griffin III, or Landry Jones are available when the Chiefs pick, they will take him.

You might win divisions with Matt Cassel, but you're not going to win championships with him.

vidae 12-12-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage (Post 2786611)
I think if Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, Robert Griffin III, or Landry Jones are available when the Chiefs pick, they will take him.

You might win divisions with Matt Cassel, but you're not going to win championships with him.

Yeah, that is exactly right. Cassel is not going to win anyone a championship and we all know it. And we actually have some offensive talent.. if only we had a QB to get them the ball.

keylime_5 12-12-2011 03:46 PM

With where the Chiefs will be picking in round one, the plums of the QB class will be gone. Likely gonna be looking at Landry Jones, Ryan Tannehill types instead of Luck/Barkley/Griffin imo.

FUNBUNCHER 12-12-2011 04:06 PM

It's Ricky Stanzi time!!!

Give him a shot before drafting a QB.

RaiderNation 12-12-2011 04:16 PM

I hop Stanzi atleast gets some playing time in these last few games, I think he can develop into a starting QB. If they do opt to take a QB, Landry Jones could have he right value and fit depending on if he declares n

vidae 12-12-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2786724)
It's Ricky Stanzi time!!!

Give him a shot before drafting a QB.

Are you being ******* serious? No. Don't give him a shot. I don't care what they think he can be. We're going to be picking top 10 and we'll hopefully have a shot at a QB but you can't **** your franchise over for a god damn 5th rounder.

Jesus, I've seen you say some stupid things in the past but this might take the cake.

PatrickWillis 12-12-2011 04:21 PM

I think they already have one in Stanzi.

ChiFan24 12-12-2011 04:49 PM

I don't think Haley really had anything to do with Cassel in the first place. I think it will be a Cassel/Orton competition.

AntoinCD 12-12-2011 04:53 PM

I think if Luck, Barkley and RG3 all declare its likely one will fall past 5 then it may be worth moving up for that player. It would be a very good decision if Pioli gave up a second rounder to move 4 or 5 spots for someone like Barkley

Scotty D 12-12-2011 05:15 PM

I think its a pretty attractive head coaching position. You have a couple solid veteran QBs (Orton on a 1 year deal?), Charles + Moeaki + Berry coming back from injury, and the opportunity to get your QB of the future. I can't believe I'm saying this but if McDaniels doesn't have GM powers it might not be the worse thing to happen.

FUNBUNCHER 12-12-2011 05:20 PM

I don't think either Barkley or RGIII falls out of the top 5, and the top four right now IMO looks like Luck/Barkley/RGIII and Kalil.

I'd still play Stanzi the rest of the season before I think about someone like Barkley is an automatic upgrade.

Someone please tell vidae not to meltdown on a message board because he happens to disagree with someone else's opinion.

Some of you guys come off as extremely emotionally fragile.

Scotty D 12-12-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2786849)
I don't think either Barkley or RGIII falls out of the top 5, and the top four right now IMO looks like Luck/Barkley/RGIII and Kalil.

I'd still play Stanzi the rest of the season before I think about someone like Barkley is an automatic upgrade.

Someone please tell vidae not to meltdown on a message board because he happens to disagree with someone else's opinion.

Some of you guys come off as extremely emotionally fragile.

vidae may have been a bit harsh but his post is 100 percent correct.

FUNBUNCHER 12-12-2011 05:35 PM

I thought Stanzi was a 2nd/3rd round prospect last year. Being drafted in the 5th doesn't mean he's not a viable option. But whatever.

vidae 12-12-2011 05:40 PM

You don't pass on a talent like Barkley or RG3 because you have Ricky Stanzi. You just don't. Period.

And I'm about as emotionally stable as they come, thank you very much!

bored of education 12-12-2011 05:42 PM

If one of the top three people tend to mention are staring them in the face then they almost in all likely hood will take them. Golden Rule.

PatrickWillis 12-12-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2786891)
You don't pass on a talent like Barkley or RG3 because you have Ricky Stanzi. You just don't. Period.

And I'm about as emotionally stable as they come, thank you very much!

Unless you guys don't have a shot at those 2. Which is very possible. What other QB's are really "cant miss" besides those 2 and Luck? I mean I like Cousins and Tannehill as sleepers but if there is a legitimate defensive guy in Round 1 and the big 3 are off the table you gotta go with BPA.

vidae 12-12-2011 06:54 PM

I disagree. I think the best thing for the long term future of this club is to move up and take a QB.

The Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in the first round since 1983. They took Todd Blackledge over Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. Ouch. It's about time they took a chance on a guy that can be that franchise signal caller.


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