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Big_Pete 01-09-2012 07:14 PM

C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
 
Konz has declared and seems to be considered by many to be the top centre prospect in the draft.

I haven't seen him play, what can people tell me about him?

Where is his stock right now?

ATLDirtyBirds 01-09-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Pete (Post 2818759)
Konz has declared and seems to be considered by many to be the top centre prospect in the draft.

I haven't seen him play, what can people tell me about him?

Where is his stock right now?

Extremely smart football player, good footwoork/redirection skills, does a good job of getting to the 2nd level. More advanced as a run blocker than a pass blocker.


Late first now, probably.

A Perfect Score 01-09-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Pete (Post 2818759)
Konz has declared and seems to be considered by many to be the top centre prospect in the draft.

I haven't seen him play, what can people tell me about him?

Where is his stock right now?

I can't see him going as high as Pouncey did last year, but I think he's every bit the same level of player. Hell, I might like Konz better as an actual C then I did Pouncey. I can see Konz going anywhere from 18-32. I'd love him in Baltimore. He's one of those guys who you can just plug in at C and expect a Pro Bowler for the next 10+ years.

CashmoneyDrew 01-09-2012 08:24 PM

Needs to be a Titan if DeCastro doesn't make it to us.

jbooshey 01-09-2012 08:25 PM

One of the better athletes you'll see at Center. Pulls with regularity and gets to the edge with ease. Has great size like all UW lineman. The only concern is his latest injury. He should be fine since he played in the Rose Bowl and did well. If needed, he could also play guard...that is where he started his career at UW.

Mufasa 01-09-2012 08:29 PM

I think he's a better prospect than either Pouncey.

princefielder28 01-09-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2818775)
Extremely smart football player, good footwoork/redirection skills, does a good job of getting to the 2nd level. More advanced as a run blocker than a pass blocker.


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Originally Posted by jbooshey (Post 2818839)
One of the better athletes you'll see at Center. Pulls with regularity and gets to the edge with ease. Has great size like all UW lineman. The only concern is his latest injury. He should be fine since he played in the Rose Bowl and did well. If needed, he could also play guard...that is where he started his career at UW.

summed up pretty well with these two posts...i think he could go as high as Dallas at 14

SRogers92 01-10-2012 12:47 PM

I don't think there's any way he'll go in the top 15, especially to Dallas. Dallas has a ton of other issues.

Sloopy 01-10-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbooshey (Post 2818839)
One of the better athletes you'll see at Center. Pulls with regularity and gets to the edge with ease. Has great size like all UW lineman. The only concern is his latest injury. He should be fine since he played in the Rose Bowl and did well. If needed, he could also play guard...that is where he started his career at UW.

This would be my only concern. He has yet to go a whole season without injury in his 3 years as a starter

keylime_5 01-10-2012 01:33 PM

He's not as athletic as the Pounceys were I don't think. He is very tough and sound though and a big strong guy for a center, much bigger than typical college centers. He's closer to Alex Mack I think than the Pouncey twins.

bigbluedefense 01-10-2012 01:37 PM

Love Konz. My favorite C prospect since Mangold. I think he's better than Brewster. I really wish the Giants didn't grab Baas, I really wanted him on the Giants.

ATLDirtyBirds 01-10-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 2819887)
I think he's better than Brewster.


I'm really not sure how people could argue against this.

bigbluedefense 01-10-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2819902)
I'm really not sure how people could argue this.

Superior run blocker, more mass, has a nastier mean streak. He gets to the 2nd level better than Brewster.

I also think Brewster is a little too long for a Center. He'd make a better G.

ATLDirtyBirds 01-10-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 2819913)
Superior run blocker, more mass, has a nastier mean streak. He gets to the 2nd level better than Brewster.

I also think Brewster is a little too long for a Center. He'd make a better G.


My bad, accidentally left out the "against". I completely agree. I think he's vastly superior to Brewster.

proshoota25 01-10-2012 02:31 PM

hoping this stud falls to one of New England's picks, but I doubt that happens

keylime_5 01-10-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2819902)
I'm really not sure how people could argue against this.

i know there are some scouts who think brewster is the top center in the draft. i think konze will go first though. either way, he's quite a fine prospect himself and will be probably an early 2nd round choice. he had a good year blocking this year, but he didn't make any all-american or all-conference teams this year b/c he had like 5 bad snaps after being a good snapper his first three years.

Sloopy 01-10-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2819919)
My bad, accidentally left out the "against". I completely agree. I think he's vastly superior to Brewster.

Brewster has certainly fallen off in this debate but I think anyone who doesn't think Brewster is the #2 C in this draft is kidding themselves and I certainly wouldn't say "vastly superior"

As I understand it Brewster has been better at making pre-snap reads. Brewster has also faired similarly well against the same competition as Konz and doesn't come with the injury concerns.

Still, the man from Wisc gets the nod as the #1

ATLDirtyBirds 01-10-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sweater-vest_mafia (Post 2820682)
Brewster has certainly fallen off in this debate but I think anyone who doesn't think Brewster is the #2 C in this draft is kidding themselves and I certainly wouldn't say "vastly superior"

As I understand it Brewster has been better at making pre-snap reads. Brewster has also faired similarly well against the same competition as Konz and doesn't come with the injury concerns.

Still, the man from Wisc gets the nod as the #1


Brewster's a nice little prospect in his own right, but Konz is a top 15-20 prospect in this class. Brewster's a 2nd-3rd rounder. There's a sizable difference.

Mitchell 01-10-2012 11:24 PM

One of my pet peeves about the draft is that all the elite guards and center prospects get snatched up by the playoff teams.

Konz is going to be a very good player for a very good team.

Sloopy 01-10-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2820688)
Brewster's a nice little prospect in his own right, but Konz is a top 15-20 prospect in this class. Brewster's a 2nd-3rd rounder. There's a sizable difference.

I think that Brewster goes in the 2nd and would be a steal in the 3rd. While there may be a sizable difference in where they get drafted, I don't think that anyone should snub having to settle for Brewster.

There is a reason why Brewster has taken home accolades over Konz in the past and while Konz seems to have overtaken him as of late; it's not like Brewster has exactly been tooled up on by the same competition and he certainly is no slouch.

I'm not trying to nit pick but I think your kidding yourself if you think that Brewster is a "nice little prospect" who is far off from Konz.

phlysac 01-11-2012 12:26 AM

If he falls to the 49ers it'd surprise me if Baalke didn't select him to become the signal-man for Harbaugh's Jumbo, Power-O.

ellsy82 01-11-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sweater-vest_mafia (Post 2820740)
I think that Brewster goes in the 2nd and would be a steal in the 3rd. While there may be a sizable difference in where they get drafted, I don't think that anyone should snub having to settle for Brewster.

There is a reason why Brewster has taken home accolades over Konz in the past and while Konz seems to have overtaken him as of late; it's not like Brewster has exactly been tooled up on by the same competition and he certainly is no slouch.

I'm not trying to nit pick but I think your kidding yourself if you think that Brewster is a "nice little prospect" who is far off from Konz.

That's funny. I think he'll be lucky to get drafted in the third. The guy is a superior pass protector, and you're right in that I think he'd be a helluva LG (not you, previously stated). He's got a ton of experience and knows all the tricks...but the dude needs to bulk up (which he DOES have the frame for), if he wants to be any decent in run blocking at the pro level. Perfect left guard project in my mind. But he is still a project. Probably be drafted in the early 4th.

SenorGato 01-11-2012 04:42 AM

Yeah just reiterating...Arguably the top pure OL in this draft even over DeCastro...my favorite C prospect since Mangold though both Mack and Pouncey were also pretty damn good.

rawdawg 01-11-2012 07:36 AM

Big fan of Konz, but I'd put him just slightly below Maurkice Pouncey coming out. Maybe I shouldn't though, but I saw a lot of Dermonti Dawson in Pouncey, and Dawson is a soon to be HOF C. Konz has some similarities to Mangold, but I think Nick is a notch better.

JohnCandy 01-11-2012 10:08 AM

He is different than the Pouncey's who were elite athletes.

Konz is different because he is 6'5" 320lbs and is a mauler in the run game. He reminds me of Mangold or Logan Mankins guys with exceptional technique and rare strength.

I think the conversation for Konz start with the Bears at 19 and ends with the Ravens.

Mike Tice is the Bears new OC and he loves Wisconsin OLmen.


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