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RaiderNation 03-12-2012 03:47 PM

Rank the QB Prospects: 2011 and 2012 Draft
 
Always fun to do these, rank the QB's from this years and last years draft from best to worst. I'm going off how I viewed these prospects coming out of college, and not what we have all already seen from them...

1 Andrew Luck (2012)
Automatic #1, we all know Luck will at least be a very good QB that can lead your team and organzition for the next 10+ years.

2 Cam Newton (2011)
I was a huge Cam fan from the first game of the season while he was at Auburn, and was easily the top choice last year.

3 Robert Griffin III (2012)
RG3 is right on par with Cam as a prospect, but I don't think he will have near the success in his rookie year.

4 Jake Locker (2011)
Locker took a step back from the #1 overall pick hype, but I (still) have no doubts he should be a top 10 QB in the league in his prime.

5 Ryan Mallett (2011)
If my team needed a QB to develop in the mid/late 1st I would have taken Mallett despite the character issues, you can't teach that type of arm strength.

6 Ryan Tannehill (2012)
Tannehill has a bright future ahead of him if he lands on the right team, and isn't rushed onto the field like the next prospect on my list.

7 Blaine Gabbert (2011)
Gabbert has the tools to be a NFL QB, but as I thought he struggled all year long for the Jags.

8 Andy Dalton (2011)
I didn't see Dalton having the big impact he had last year, but thought he was a really solid 2nd round QB.

9 Christian Ponder (2011)
I gave Ponder a 2nd round grade just like Dalton, but I still don't agree with where he was selected.

10 Brandon Weeden (2012)
Weeden will likely get a late 2nd round grade from me, and as the draft comes closer I think he will rise once the Manning/Flynn sweapstakes is over.

KCJ58 03-12-2012 03:48 PM

how could you put Gabbert ahead of Dalton?

Did you see how they did last year?

and Weeden is 29

DiG 03-12-2012 03:57 PM

Mine based on how I had them rated coming out of college.

1 Andrew Luck (2012)

2 Robert Griffin III (2012)

3 Cam Newton (2011)

4 Jake Locker (2011)

5 Andy Dalton (2011)

6 Ryan Mallett (2011)

7 Ryan Tannehill (2012)

8 Christian Ponder (2011)

9 Blaine Gabbert (2011)

10 Kirk Cousins (2012)

DeepThreat 03-12-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ58 (Post 2897748)
how could you put Gabbert ahead of Dalton?

Did you see how they did last year?

and Weeden is 29

He said as prospects, and no, Weeden is 28 until October.

RaiderNation 03-12-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ58 (Post 2897748)
how could you put Gabbert ahead of Dalton?

Did you see how they did last year?

and Weeden is 29

Read the BOLD, I'm going off how I saw them as prospects. Gabbert still has a high ceiling than Dalton IMO, but we will see if he ever gets anywhere close to it...

jrdrylie 03-12-2012 04:20 PM

1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Jake Locker
4. Cam Newton
5. Christian Ponder
6. Ryan Tannehill
7. Brock Osweiler
8. Ryan Mallett
9. Blaine Gabbet
10. Brandon Weeden
11. Andy Dalton

TACKLE 03-12-2012 05:17 PM

1. Cam Newton (2011)
2. Andrew Luck (2012)
3. Ryan Mallett (2011)
4. Ryan Tannehill (2012)
5. Robert Griffin III (2012)
6. Jake Locker (2011)
7. Colin Kaepernick (2011)
8. Brandon Weeden (2012)
9. Christian Ponder (2011)
10. Blaine Gabbert (2011)

Steady Lurkin 03-12-2012 05:36 PM

1. Andrew Luck
2. Cam Newton
Dropoff
3. Ryan Tannehill
4. Ryan Mallett
Dropoff
5. RG3
6. Jake Locker
Dropoff
7. Christian Ponder
8. Kirk Cousins
9. Brandon Weeden
10. Andy Dalton
8937492837498273. Blaine Gabbert

Still evaluating this year's QB class.

Clarkw267 03-12-2012 05:53 PM

1. Luck
2. RG3
3. Newton
4. Locker
5. Gabbert
6. Tannehill
7. Ponder

PhillyBirds25 03-12-2012 05:59 PM

1. Luck
2. RG3
3. Locker
4. Newton
5. Dalton
6. Gabbert
7. Kaepernick
8. Tannehill
9. Ponder
10. Mallett

Babylon 03-12-2012 06:07 PM

1. Luck
2. Locker
3. Newton
4. Griffin
5. Mallett
6. Tannehill
7. Gabbert
8. Ponder
9. Dalton
10.Osweiler

toonsterwu 03-12-2012 08:45 PM

Don't have time to go too in-depth right now, so will try to get back to this at a later date. Ranking based on players pre-draft 2011 and pre-draft 2012 at similar points in time. This list is thus not only on physical upside, but a combination based on information that deals with off-field and vision.

1. Andrew Luck.
2. Robert Griffin III.
3. Blaine Gabbert
4. Cam Newton
5. Ryan Tannehill

Decent Gap

6. Ryan Mallett
7. Jake Locker (Always said last year that, if you give me a good QB Coach and 2-3 years to develop Locker, I'd be fine taking my chances on him)
8. Colin Kaepernick (see ... Locker basically)
9. Kirk Cousins
10. Andy Dalton

I guess you could toss in Weeden and Ponder in with Cousins and Dalton and order it any way. This shouldn't be viewed as a knock on Weeden, who I think can play in the NFL, but his age IS a factor. I never liked Ponder as much as many, but I did think he could be a starter someday (I think I compared him to a more athletic Schaub). I really like Cousins as a guy who I think might be able to pick up an offense quick and step in. I feel like Cousins offers a bit more upside than Dalton did, hence the tiny edge.

I really liked Stanzi a lot last year as a solid mid-round QB option.

gpngc 03-12-2012 08:50 PM

1 - Luck
2 - RG3
3 - Newton

4 - Tannehill
5 - Mallett
6 - Kaepernick

7 - Gabbert
8 - Weeden
9 - Oseweiler
10 - Stanzi
11 - B.J. Coleman

I would not have drafted Locker, Ponder, or Dalton.

BuddyCHRIST 03-12-2012 11:09 PM

Luck
Griffin
Locker
Newton
Ponder
Mallett
Dalton
Tannehill
Weeden
Kaepernick
Gabbert

Matthew Jones 03-12-2012 11:18 PM

Based on the ten in the initial post:

1. Andrew Luck, Stanford*

2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor*

3. Jake Locker, Washington

4. Cam Newton, Auburn*

5. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M

6. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri*

7. Christian Ponder, Florida St.

8. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas*

9. Andy Dalton, Texas Christian

10. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma St.

I was a little bit low on Newton because of the offense he came from and his character so I had Locker as the top QB that year. I was a little bit nervous about Ryan Mallett's rumored drug habits but without those he would probably go #3 ahead of even Locker. I had the top eight guys substantially ahead of Dalton/Weeden.

Wrathman 03-12-2012 11:51 PM

1) Luck
2) Griffin
3) Locker
4) Gabbert (oops)
5) Mallett
6) Newton
7) Kaepernick
8) Ponder
9) Tannehill
10) Dalton

zachsaints52 03-13-2012 12:19 AM

Is it bad I dont wanna post because I thought (and still do) Mallet will be a Top 10 QB in the league in the future and would be Top 4 on the list? He reminds me of Rhillip Rivers mindset/Drew Bledsoes abilities.

Caulibflower 03-13-2012 12:20 AM

For coming out of college, over the last two years, on a basis of fantasy-land, ideal team situations, the blend between my excitement and my confidence about prospects would probably have them ranked, when they were coming out -

1. Newton
2. Luck
3. Tannehill
4. Griffin III
5. Locker
6. Weeden
7. Ponder
8. Dalton
9. Mallett

Irrelevant: Gabbert. Have thought Gabbert was terrible from the first I saw of him.

Steady Lurkin 03-13-2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachsaints52 (Post 2898903)
Is it bad I dont wanna post because I thought (and still do) Mallet will be a Top 10 QB in the league in the future and would be Top 4 on the list? He reminds me of Rhillip Rivers mindset/Drew Bledsoes abilities.

Not at all, I loved Mallett last year.

princefielder28 03-13-2012 09:32 AM

1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Ryan Mallett
4. Ricky Stanzi
5. Jake Locker
6. Cam Newton
7. Kirk Cousins
8. Ryan Tannehill
9. Blaine Gabbert
10. Colin Kaepernick

bitonti 03-13-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonsterwu (Post 2898344)
1. Andrew Luck.
2. Robert Griffin III.
3. Blaine Gabbert
4. Cam Newton

5. Ryan Tannehill
.

i didn't know people still thought this. It's like thinking the Sun revolves around the Earth.

princefielder28 03-13-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitonti (Post 2899299)
i didn't know people still thought this. It's like thinking the Sun revolves around the Earth.

It how people viewed them at the time they were/are prospects, not with how things have played out with some having a year of experience in the league

Master Exploder 03-13-2012 12:32 PM

Since everybody else is doing it, here's mine.

1. Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
3. Cam Newton, Auburn
4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Russell Wilson, Wisconsin
6. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
7. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
8. Christian Ponder, Florida State
9. Nick Foles, Arizona
10. Jake Locker, Washington

Babylon 03-13-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpngc (Post 2898362)
1 - Luck
2 - RG3
3 - Newton

4 - Tannehill
5 - Mallett
6 - Kaepernick

7 - Gabbert
8 - Weeden
9 - Oseweiler
10 - Stanzi
11 - B.J. Coleman

I would not have drafted Locker, Ponder, or Dalton.

I could see maybe being down on one of these guys but all three? You really think NFL types are that stupid?

gpngc 03-13-2012 12:40 PM

What? This is my list. Not where I think they would be drafted.

And based on early indications, I was dead wrong about Dalton, who I thought didn't have the arm strength to be a good pro QB.


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