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vidae 03-21-2012 12:51 PM

New Orleans Saints Scandal Thread
 
Here is the fallout of the league decision on the Saints:

-Sean Payton suspended the entire season without pay, effective April 1st.
-Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely, effective immediately.
-Joe Vitt suspended the first 6 games of the 2012 season.
-Mickey Loomis suspended 8 games.
-They lose a second round pick this year (2012) and next (2013).
-The team is fined $500,000.

Wow. Didn't expect something this harsh.

edit: 5/2, player suspensions are as follows:

-Jonathan Vilma suspended for one year.
-Anthony Hargrove suspended 8 games.
-Will Smith suspended for 4 games.
-Scott Fujita suspended for 3 games.

Flyboy 03-21-2012 12:52 PM

A WHOLE season for Payton?! WOW, talk about overkill.

Pete Carmichael, Jr... time for you to do your thing, sir!

WMD 03-21-2012 12:52 PM

Saints also lose 2nd rounders this year and next year. The franchise was fined $500,000

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) 03-21-2012 12:52 PM

Kudos to the NFL for coming down hard on this. Was not expecting anything close to this bad.

Shane P. Hallam 03-21-2012 12:52 PM

Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely as well

Giantsfan1080 03-21-2012 12:53 PM

Talk about coming down hard.

killxswitch 03-21-2012 12:54 PM

The Pats lost a 1st so the Saints should have too. Sure the suspension is bigger but IMO the offense was bigger here.

I'm glad Williams is out of the NFL. I doubt he's ever allowed back in.

_YL_ 03-21-2012 12:54 PM

WOW!! talk about making a statement out off the Saints

Taber21 03-21-2012 12:55 PM

I don't think coaches are going to let this sort of thing happen anymore, a full year suspension w/o pay? Ouch.

Shane P. Hallam 03-21-2012 12:56 PM

"Saints asst coach Joe Vitt also suspended six games and fined $100,000."

He would have taken over more than likely.

vidae 03-21-2012 12:56 PM

I was kind of hoping they'd take away their franchise tag too. I love me some Brees in KC!

Lil Quip 03-21-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killxswitch (Post 2915110)
The Pats lost a 1st so the Saints should have too. Sure the suspension is bigger but IMO the offense was bigger here.

I'm glad Williams is out of the NFL. I doubt he's ever allowed back in.

Coincidentally the NFL can't have it! It's ours!

Looks like trading up last year is a more interesting move now. Wonder if the NFL would have taken it if the Saints still had it?

vidae 03-21-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 2915123)
Anyone know how the Loomis suspension affects him exactly?

I would assume he will have no contact and say in their draft preparations.

Shane P. Hallam 03-21-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2915130)
I would assume he will have no contact and say in their draft preparations.

Can the NFL monitor that? I don't think so. And if he is only suspended 8 games, that wouldn't apply yet.

BeerBaron 03-21-2012 12:59 PM

So, will Carmichael become the interim coach then? He has more experience with the organization than Spags.

Punisher 03-21-2012 01:00 PM

Holy *****

killxswitch 03-21-2012 01:00 PM

So who is the DC in STL this year?

Complex 03-21-2012 01:01 PM

Cheat get fined and lose 1st round pick. Know about bounties and not stop get fined, lose multiple draft picks and get suspended the whole year. SMh

BeerBaron 03-21-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 2915135)
Can the NFL monitor that? I don't think so. And if he is only suspended 8 games, that wouldn't apply yet.

Yeah a GM being suspended for "games" seems irrelevant. If they wanted to really punish him, they should have said 8 weeks starting ASAP. That would be crippling.

stillma7ic 03-21-2012 01:01 PM

So is Spags gonna be head coach now?

vidae 03-21-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2915149)
Yeah a GM being suspended for "games" seems irrelevant. If they wanted to really punish him, they should have said 8 weeks starting ASAP. That would be crippling.

They probably should have. Like you said, suspending a GM for in season games means next to nothing.

Shane P. Hallam 03-21-2012 01:02 PM

Player suspensions/fines are being reviewed by NFLPA and will come down soon as well. Bye bye Vilma.

BeerBaron 03-21-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillma7ic (Post 2915152)
So is Spags gonna be head coach now?

Not sure yet. I'd guess Carmichael since he was the coach on the field while Payton was injured last year and has more experience with the franchise. Spags was just added this offseason afterall.

And of course PFT crashes, ha. Suspension news and Tebow news hitting at the same time.

The Dynasty 03-21-2012 01:03 PM

Are there going to be any player punishments? Like Vilma. But good to see that this happened. Its a harsh decision but the league needed them to be made of example of so this stuff wouldn't occur again. Going to be interesting to see how the saints are this year now.

brat316 03-21-2012 01:04 PM

LOLZ man laying down the hammer. BAN Hammer for Williams.


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