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Complex 04-12-2012 06:31 PM

Janoris Jenkins Was Still Smoking at North Alabama
 
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Janoris Jenkins disputes an NFL.com report that he was still smoking marijuana at North Alabama last season.
"I wasn't smoking marijuana at North Alabama," he said. "... I want to know why all of a sudden this is out there. Why didn't it come out after the Combine when I was straightforward with the scouts? The timing is very interesting to me." Jenkins' defensive coordinator backs up his story, insisting the cornerback did nothing to violate his zero-tolerance policy. While there's little doubt that Jenkins' stock has taken a hit due to character concerns, the latest report about his drug usage could well be a smokescreen.
- rotoworld



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NFL executives and scouts were watching closely as Jenkins, one of the nation's best cover corners, migrated to Div. II North Alabama last year. His play was consistent with how he performed in three years as a Gator. But so were his off-field actions, which have included three arrests, positive drug tests, and four children with three women.

"It's not just his personal situation with the kids and different moms. This is a multiple offender of the drug policy in college, and it's not like there were no character concerns at North Alabama," said one AFC personnel executive. "He had multiple opportunities to get away from it. He didn't at Florida, and he went to North Alabama and he wasn't clean there.

"You just wish the situation at North Alabama was clean, that he had a rebirth, from a personal and football character standpoint. But it was more of the same."

Presented with the claims laid out by numerous NFL executives and scouts in this story, Jenkins' agent Malik Shareef provided a statement.

"Our talks with league GMs and scouts have been overwhelmingly positive," the agent said. "Most of these scouts believe that Janoris is the top cover corner in the draft and have been impressed with the way he has handled himself through the pre-draft process, from the Senior Bowl to the combine to team visits. He's been open and honest about his mistakes and has learned from them. He has demonstrated that he's fully dedicated to fulfilling his dreams of being a professional football player.

Wouldn't touch him in the first round'

Executives agreed that he is talented and has been honest about his issues, though it continues to trouble them that the drug use, by Jenkins' own admission, wasn't curtailed after he was thrown off Florida's team by coach Will Muschamp

"He's running with the wrong people," an NFC personnel executive said. "They gave him every chance in the world at Florida, and it didn't work. … And he gets to North Alabama, and he's still smoking because he's got this big-fish, little-pond thing going. I don't see him going in the first round, and a lot of teams have him off their board completely."

"Football-wise, people like [Jenkins]. He loves football, he competes and he's tough," said a second NFC executive. "But he's an immature kid. You see a lot of problems. ... With Dez, the biggest issue was that whether he was smart enough to figure out what he didn't know. That's when the NFL becomes too big for a kid, where maybe he's not a bad kid, but he's just not equipped to handle the rigors of being a pro athlete."

An AFC college scout made it simpler regarding Jenkins: "He's not a bad person. He just makes a lot of dumb, dumb mistakes. He just smokes and (has sex), and that's essentially what it is. … And there's just awful decision-making associated with that. I don't think he's a bad person. But he has a lot of soul-searching to do. I wouldn't touch him in the first round."

The testing isn't the issue in the minds of NFL decision-makers. After all, Jenkins has been open with them about his actions at North Alabama. They're aware that, even if he did pass the tests, his behavior didn't change.

"The problem is, at least my impression was, he doesn't see the error in his ways," said another AFC personnel director. "He came off like he doesn't see an issue with any of it. He doesn't think it's a big deal. And he thinks he's got it under control. … But Janoris' problems go far beyond the drug use. He's got four babies by three mamas, and he's not even in the league yet. That invites tons of problems and will make him a target when he gets into the league, too."

'He may be the best'

So where does this leave Jenkins? From a physical standpoint, he's tantalizing. And the fact that he possesses a premium skill, elite man-to-man coverage ability, likely will prevent the kind of free fall Hernandez experienced in 2010, a tumble that ended in the middle of the fourth round.

All of the executives, personnel men and scouts reached for this story said, from a strictly on-field standpoint, LSU's Morris Claiborne is the only player at the position they'd rank in front of Jenkins, whose size (5-foot-10, 193 pounds) seems to be his lone physical drawback.

"Physically, he may be the best," said another AFC college scout. "It's either him or Claiborne. But if someone takes him in the first round, I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna think it's a dumb move. … I wouldn't touch him in the first round under any circumstance."

Speculation holds that either Cincinnati or New England, both of whom have multiple first-round picks and a history of taking chances on players with character concerns, could be the team that takes Jenkins. The Rams are another logical landing spot -- Jenkins was in St. Louis on Monday, and the team has two high second-round picks and a coach in Jeff Fisher who's experienced in dealing with troubled young players
I hope he falls to the 2nd or 3rd round and the titans draft him.

Chargerfn909 04-12-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Complex (Post 2945421)
I hope he falls to the 2nd or 3rd round and the titans draft him.

I wouldn't touch him in the 2nd or 3rd. You talk about red flags, this dude IS a red flag. Why waste a valuable draft pick on someone who is almost certainly going to struggle to stay in the league.

Especially this year, the CB's are pretty deep, it would be risky biz to touch this guy before the 4th.

Guys like this, who are given 2nd & 3rd chances and still blow it don't just snap outta it. He's a low character dude that does not see the NFL as an opportunity, he's banking on his skill set to get in the league. Hand that dude a couple mil and C YA!

K Train 04-12-2012 06:35 PM

maybe true but the man is good, like real good. i dont think hes like pacman jones red flag, hes more like santonio holmes red flag. smokes weed, has babies. maybe not the most reliable pick long term but could be worth the risk

Chargerfn909 04-12-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by K Train (Post 2945428)
maybe true but the man is good, like real good. i dont think hes like pacman jones red flag, hes more like santonio holmes red flag. smokes weed, has babies. maybe not the most reliable pick long term but could be worth the risk

Yea, but smoking weed is what you do when you don't have money, the gun slingin' while 'making it rain' at the strip club is what soon ensues when you land a mil or two.

A mistake or two in college is OK. But when kicked outta a top notch D1 school, then given the second chance at a school like NBAMA, by all means man; TAKE ADVANTAGE. He's either extremely arrogant, or flat out stupid...I am gonna guess #2.

MI_Buckeye 04-12-2012 06:54 PM

If only he were an alcoholic and a woman beater instead.

Pat Sims 90 04-12-2012 06:58 PM

At this point i would only spend a 5th or 6th Round on him. He may be very talented, but way to many red flags to spend a decent draft pick on him.

vidae 04-12-2012 07:17 PM


JRTPlaya21 04-12-2012 07:56 PM

Will Hill 2.0

Leon Sandcastle 04-12-2012 08:06 PM

Dude weed isn't that good and condoms aren't expensive.

prock 04-12-2012 08:09 PM

I would take him in the third for sure, and in the second depending on value. He's just too good to not.

Borat 04-12-2012 08:10 PM

He's not even draftable for me. Pacman Jones 2.0

descendency 04-12-2012 08:11 PM

Throwing away an NFL career, one blunt at a time.

definitely draftable, but he'd know the first legal mistake and he's out. Without a question or appeal.

Leon Sandcastle 04-12-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Borat (Post 2945554)
He's not even draftable for me. Pacman Jones 2.0

A little strong. Jones had a documented violence problem. I'm not sure Jenkins is another Pacman just a knucklehead who has a discipline problem.

My team needs a CB and I wouldn't be too pleased if we took him in the 2nd.

ATLDirtyBirds 04-12-2012 08:15 PM

Jenkins is a stud. People forget he was better than Haden. He should be a first rounder. If he gets to round 2, god bless whoever gets him.

PossibleCabbage 04-12-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JRTPlaya21 (Post 2945533)
Will Hill 2.0

The key difference is that while both are unquestionably knuckleheads, Janoris Jenkins is actually good at football, unlike Will Hill.

niel89 04-12-2012 08:41 PM

I wouldn't go 1st or 2nd, but I'd easily risk a 3rd for a guy who has lock down potential. He was a stud in the SEC. There just aren't that many corners with his ability and teams can never have too many corners.

Chargerfn909 04-12-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by niel89 (Post 2945606)
I wouldn't go 1st or 2nd, but I'd easily risk a 3rd for a guy who has lock down potential. He was a stud in the SEC. There just aren't that many corners with his ability and teams can never have too many corners.

Then how bummed are you when he's outta the league after 2 years when you could have had a guy like Dennard or Trumaine Johnson still on the roster contributing in some way shape or form?

3rd's are valuable, i'd take a flyer on a 5th, but that's it. He needs to goto the right team with a no-bs head coach as well.

jojo 04-12-2012 08:53 PM

Under a microscope & still testing dirty? Guy is an addict by definition.

Scotty D 04-12-2012 08:57 PM

Save yourself the headache and don't draft him. He had two choices with his life when he was kicked off Florida and he choose the wrong one. Doesn't sound like the guy who will ever stop. With the new penalties that increase the numbers of games suspended each time you get caught I don't see how a team should ever depend on Janoris Jenkins.

Dan_Steele 04-12-2012 11:06 PM

Talent will always trump off the field problems any day. Does anybody honestly think a team like the Bengals or Raiders would pass on a talent like his because of off the field problems? He is a kid, give him a solid mentor and he'll stop his mistakes or at least find a better way to hide them or at least keep them to the offseason. If somebody like Kenny Britt can go round one a don't see why Jenkins won't.

Clarkw267 04-12-2012 11:20 PM

I know the Lions won't take him, so I don't have to worry about it. Especially after the morons that their last draft class have turned out to be (Fairley, LeShoure)

holt_bruce81 04-12-2012 11:27 PM

He's a top 10 talent that will now more than likely fall to the late 1st-early 2nd round. I don't see anyway the Rams pass on him if he's there at pick 33.

yanksknicks 04-12-2012 11:51 PM

Basically the idiot rolled out a joint, talked ebonics and grabbed his nuts while interviewing for a job that pays him $1-2MM per year.

If I am an Owner, I am impressed. I am a GM, I want to risk my reputation. They are both saying "I soooooooo want to invest in that level of moron. Sign me up."

yanksknicks 04-12-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkw267 (Post 2945807)
I know the Lions won't take him, so I don't have to worry about it. Especially after the morons that their last draft class have turned out to be (Fairley, LeShoure)

Lions are an emotionally ******** team like their HC so maybe a good spot for Janoris. Plus his lifestyle will fit right in in the Metro.

yanksknicks 04-13-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargerfn909 (Post 2945423)
I wouldn't touch him in the 2nd or 3rd. You talk about red flags, this dude IS a red flag. Why waste a valuable draft pick on someone who is almost certainly going to struggle to stay in the league.

Especially this year, the CB's are pretty deep, it would be risky biz to touch this guy before the 4th.

Guys like this, who are given 2nd & 3rd chances and still blow it don't just snap outta it. He's a low character dude that does not see the NFL as an opportunity, he's banking on his skill set to get in the league. Hand that dude a couple mil and C YA!

I can see the benjamins raining down on stage at the Mons Venus in Tampa with JJ cupping his nuts and waving a few G around ast the HOs are all buzzing like vultures on a penile carcas.


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