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Complex 04-18-2012 11:37 PM

Say Hello to the STILL Minnesota Vikings
 
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wo days after a Minnesota House committee voted against the Vikings' stadium bill, the NFL responded with its own strong message to state leaders: Get it done or face the consequences.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told Gov. Mark Dayton on Wednesday there will be "serious consequences" for both the league and the Vikings if the bill isn't passed, according to a Pioneer Press report.

And with the state's legislative session likely to wrap up in the next two weeks, Dayton said Tuesday that resolving the stadium issue, which has lingered for about a decade, would probably have to wait until 2013.

ut the Vikings, who don't have a stadium lease, said Tuesday that next year isn't an option and a league executive said Wednesday the team and its ownership are "out of options" after Monday night's vote.

"In the 20 years that I've watched teams change hands, a lot of things get talked about. But until things are really ripe, nothing happens. This is getting ripe," NFL executive vice president of business operations Eric Grubman told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "You have a very dejected ownership. They've run out of options. They feel like they've done everything they've been asked to do and they can't get a vote. No one will answer the question, 'What is it going to take?' "

"The Vikings have said, 'Give us A, B and C, what would you like us to do?' They've been told A, B and C, and they've done that. And they still can't get through. So what makes anyone think it's going to be any better or different next year or the year after?"

The Vikings have no option but to play in the Metrodome in the 2012 season, but the team's lease in the 30-year-old facility is expired and officials have said they don't plan to renew it.

Grubman said Wednesday there's a lot of concern in the league office after the committee voted 9-6 to reject the $975 million plan to build a replacement for the Metrodome in downtown Minneapolis.

"The ownership and league staff have been working with the Vikings and from the league's standpoint, the Vikings have been patient, they've negotiated in good faith, they've been responsive to doing all they can do to get this resolved. It's reached a point where there may be a stalemate," Grubman told the Star Tribune. "So I would say it's very serious at this point. You have to remember this was portrayed as having support and likely to pass as recently as a couple of weeks ago when we were at the league meetings. So this will come as quite a blow. This is quite a blow."

The proposal that fell in the House committee on Monday would have split the tab three ways for a stadium proposed to be built at the current Metrodome site: $398 million from the state from taxes on expanded gambling, $150 million from the city of Minneapolis from existing sales taxes and $427 million from the Vikings with assistance likely from the NFL.

ccording to multiple outlets, Goodell and Dayton will speak again Thursday with Pittsburgh Steelers owner and chair of the league's stadium committee Art Rooney II.

Grubman said he did not think Vikings owner Zygi Wilf would be on the call, insisting the latest stadium failure has forced the league to assess the team's options.

From our perspective, the Wilfs have done everything they can," Grubman told the paper. " ... Now it's sort of time for the league to assess. I just think it's a case of the commissioner, the governor and the head of the committee needing to put their heads together and say, 'OK, this is where it could go.' "

Dayton has made it clear he believes the Vikings will leave Minnesota if they do not have a plan for a new stadium in place by next year. Los Angeles, which does not have an NFL team but is progressing in its plan to build $1.4 billion downtown stadium, remains a threat if the Wilfs become frustrated and decide to move or sell the club.

"I think the Wilfs do not want to sell the franchise, but I think there is a point where they probably would be open-minded to listening to alternatives. To my knowledge, they have not been willing to do that at this point," Grubman told the Star Tribune.

But he continued, "I think they're running out of options and running out of patience. I doubt the commissioner would put probabilities or threaten or anything like that. But I would not be surprised if the commissioner tells the governor, if he asks, what other cities are interested in the Vikings because we are aware of that."



BaLLiN 04-18-2012 11:46 PM

how would that even work? would they stay in the division?

Scotty D 04-18-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2955568)
how would that even work? would they stay in the division?

That was my first thought. The Lions, Vikings, Packers, and Bears have always been in the same division.

Getting way ahead of myself but my first idea was to swap the Vikings and Rams.

YAYareaRB 04-18-2012 11:49 PM

it looks like a party

Brodeur 04-18-2012 11:49 PM

At least the Jags and their 35 fans get to keep their team!

Mufasa 04-18-2012 11:50 PM

This is just the next move in negotiating a new stadium. The Vikings need to get a stadium figured out soon, and this is a way to put pressure on the state to approve it. I have a feeling that in the end they'll get their stadium and stay in Minnesota.

yo123 04-18-2012 11:51 PM

Meh. I've mentally prepared myself for this. The only thing that will change is I'll have to buy Sunday Ticket.

yo123 04-18-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur (Post 2955575)
At least the Jags and their 35 fans get to keep their team!

You act like our fans aren't ridiculous bandwagoners. I have no respect for the majority of the sports fans here.

YAYareaRB 04-18-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D (Post 2955573)
That was my first thought. The Lions, Vikings, Packers, and Bears have always been in the same division.

Getting way ahead of myself but my first idea was to swap the Vikings and Rams.

pretty funny if it goes down like that. vikings going to LA and swapping divisions with the rams, who were the last nfl team in LA,iirc

nepg 04-18-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2955568)
how would that even work? would they stay in the division?

Move them to the NFC West and StL to the North. If the Vikings aren't in that part of the map, there is no rivalry anyway. And I don't think people realize how ******* close the Rams are to those teams.

Unbiased 04-18-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur (Post 2955575)
At least the Jags and their 35 fans get to keep their team!

At least I don't spend my entire life on this message board.

I had to be vague because I don't know who your team is.

Brodeur 04-18-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123 (Post 2955580)
You act like our fans aren't ridiculous bandwagoners. I have no respect for the majority of the sports fans here.

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it still beats Jags fans, who don't actually exist.

yo123 04-18-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unbiased (Post 2955586)
At least I don't spend my entire life on this message board.

I had to be vague because I don't know who your team is.


Edit goddamnit you ninja edited and now my awesome comment doesn't work.

Unbiased 04-18-2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123 (Post 2955588)
Edit goddamnit you ninja edited and now my awesome comment doesn't work.

Yeah, don't sleep on the ninja edit.

WCH 04-19-2012 12:09 AM

Well, it would be fitting if LA "stole" the Vikings from Minnesota, just like they did the Lakers. The teams even have the same colors.

Ness 04-19-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nepg (Post 2955583)
Move them to the NFC West and StL to the North. If the Vikings aren't in that part of the map, there is no rivalry anyway. And I don't think people realize how ******* close the Rams are to those teams.

This wouldn't happen. The 49ers and Rams have been rivals for decades and have the longest history within the division between any two combined teams.

YAYareaRB 04-19-2012 12:12 AM

to be fair, the lakers adopted the purple and gold in LA right?

yo123 04-19-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB (Post 2955607)
to be fair, the lakers adopted the purple and gold in LA right?

Yeah, the Minneapolis Lakers had powder blue and yellow. Much better combo if you ask me actually.

WCH 04-19-2012 12:20 AM

I know this is a bit off topic, but both names (Lakers, Vikings) make a lot more sense in Minneapolis than they do in LA.

Brodeur 04-19-2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unbiased (Post 2955586)
At least I don't spend my entire life on this message board.

I had to be vague because I don't know who your team is.


WCH 04-19-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ness (Post 2955604)
This wouldn't happen. The 49ers and Rams have been rivals for decades and have the longest history within the division between any two combined teams.

Rich Eisen said that two teams will be in LA by something like 2015, and that it's basically a done deal. If that's true, then I'm guessing that the NFL just does another major realignment, where they try to preserve division rivalries while still making division lines more sensible. In this scenario, an AFC team might move to the NFC North, or something similar.

wogitalia 04-19-2012 12:51 AM

I'd be one of the few Vikings fans who actually liked this...

West Coast is a way better time zone for their games to be in and I wouldn't mind going to LA anyway whereas I'd be going to Minny purely to see the Vikes play.

Does suck though on so many levels, kind of inevitable though, to be honest it's pretty good of Zygi to even bother negotiating with Minny, there is so much more money to be made in LA if he was that way inclined.

descendency 04-19-2012 12:52 AM

Do you know what the most famous Viking thinks on this matter:


prock 04-19-2012 01:22 AM

This isn't going to happen. I have no reason for it, it's just that it can't happen unless the state wants me to go on an Archer-like cancer rampage.

BuckNaked 04-19-2012 01:30 AM

There is so much potential for disaster with Chris Cook roaming the streets of Los Angeles past 2 AM. I'll start the odds of him getting stabbed in a Compton White Castle with a shiv made out of a potato peeler at 10:1. Let the betting commence. On a very slightly more serious note, this would create so many bandwagon fans that it would piss me off. In all reality, probably not that many at all cause they're the Vikings, but enough for me to maybe encounter one in my life. I take pride in being one of the 4 Vikings fans on the East coast. It's a comforting thought to know that if we ever win a Super Bowl (I almost had myself there) that I'll be the only person in the country streaking east of Sheboygan.


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