2012 49ers NFL Draft Gameday Thread
 

I don't watch any college football practically, so I only know about the "sexy" prospects. That being said, I how we get a good player in the first round that can help us out right away. A guard would be nice since Snyder and Rachal are gone.

There is one guy I have a good feeling about and wouldn't mind the 49ers taking, and that's Marvin Jones.

The one thing about the draft every single season that people tend to forget is that 90% of these players won't make a huge impact in the NFL.

Huh......and I thought that was Free Agents??? :p LOL.

Joking aside, im still hoping for TE Coby Fleener because he adds another weapon on the offense, knows the offense, is a huge redzone target and with Walker being an UFA in a year from now, they should trade him during this year's draft if they draft Fleener.

After Fleener, then im hoping for WR Stephen Hill with an OG third on my wish list. Other draft picks after Fleener/Hill should be an OG (second rounder), CB (third round), WR (fourth round and if Hill or another WR isnt drafted at 30), S (fifth round), DL (sixth round) and an OLB (seventh round).

Those would be my targets in regards to positions but of course, it wouldnt stay that way since we're picking behind 29 other teams. If we get Fleener or Hill at 30, I'll be a happy camper but im hoping for Fleener the most.

Solid post. I'd add NT and RB to the list of depth needs though. I don't see Gore and Jacobs on the team in 2013 (and Jacobs isn't a lock to make the team this year either). We have 3 NT's on the team and 2 of them (Sopo, RJF) are UFAs after this year..the 3rd is Ian Williams and he's played like 10-20 snaps at NT. So i wouldn't mind adding another prospect there.

Other than that, i agree with everything.

Absolutely agree on Streeter. If we don't draft Hill then Streeter would be a great guy to go after in round 3 or 4.

Yeah I think NT will be addressed. Alameda Ta'Amu would be a great guy to add but he may be gone before we pick @ 61. It's funny as soon as Baalke alluded to the fact that he had a guy who he thought would be there @ 30 my first thought was Alameda...I hope I'm wrong however..lol

Streeter in the 4th I'm ok with, in the 3rd...a little rich for my blood..

Thinking about it, if Fleener and Hill are both gone at 30, I would try to trade out of the first round and try to acquire an extra first rounder for next year.

Thoughts?

I definitely think there's a scenario where that would be the best thing to do. If Hill and Fleener are both off the board it would be interesting to see who slipped to us however. If nobody terribly tempting is left in the scenario where Hill and Fleener are gone I would absolutely try to get out of there. After all, is Zeitler @ 30 better value than Amini or Brandon Brooks @ 61? Probably not.

Would you still look to trade down if Wright was still on the board? What about Dre Kirpatrick?

Yes, I would still try to trade down. I have no interest in Wright or Kirpatrick for various reasons. CB wise, I wouldnt mind Gilmore at 30 if Fleener and Hill are gone but other than him, I would try my best to trade out of the first round. If a team just wanted to give me their first rounder for 2013 (and especially if its a team like MIA, CLE, etc. who'll most likelt have a top ten draft pick yet again), I would accept it. If a good player was to fall into the middle of second round, I would give up the third rounder to get him. With Moss, Crabtree, Manningham and Williams, any rookie WR would be at best 5th on the DC unless injuries happen or Moss becomes Braylon or something along those lines happens. TE wise, Byham is coming off a season ending injury, Walker is good and I like him but he'll be an UFA in 2013 and could be a starter for several teams in the league. Dont see him staying in SF unless he enjoys being a backup. I think that Fleener as a rookie would already surpass Walker and is a huge redzone target. After Fleener and Hill, I wouldnt mind Gilmore but I think that he'll be long gone by 30. OG wise, I dont think that there would be a huge difference between 30 and 61 so if I could acquire an extra first rounder for 2013, I would take it because those two first rounders would be huge in a year from now as we would hopefully be able to find a RB to replace Gore and a playmaking WR or a NT depending on what happens with Sopoaga and Jean-Francois.

I think any WR drafted in the 1st 2 rounds would most likely easily overtake Williams for the 4th spot on the depth chart. With that being said, I think I would stay at 30 if Kendall Wright was still available. I would not select any other pass catcher @ 30 other than Hill, Fleener, and Wright. Konz and Zeitler are where things get tricky, I'm not the best judge of interior line play, it's very hard to judge their value from highlights...lol

Rookie WR could surpass Williams but thats not a guarantee. All depends on how the rookie WR would develop and progress. The reason I have Hill as the only WR is because he's raw and green. Basically, by the time he becomes ready to be a number one WR, Moss (and possibly Manningham and/or Crabtree) will be gone. Hill is a project as would be any WR we draft at 30 but when you look at our depth chart, its Moss, Crabtree, Manningham, Williams, Ginn and Swain. Swain would be the odd man out in my opinion and Moss could always become Braylon part two. Adding those factors along with the fact that a rookie WR may take longer than expected to progress and the positives of Fleener plus Walker being an UFA in 2013, I think that Fleener would be the perfect pick and fit for us. Hill is basically for the future after Moss and possibly others. Either way, im hoping that Baalke/Harbaugh doesnt release Williams. I like him and he's young with plenty of upside and potential. To me, he's a perfect fit as our slot receiver.

Jared Crick, Omar Bolden, Bobby Wagner, and Ty Hilton are my favorite prospects.

I'm really glad you're not the GM

I probably wouldn't do that well.

LOL...just joking. I like Crick a little just don't think he's strong enough to play DE in a 3-4

You don't trade down/out. Teams trade up.

You can't call up another team and ask them to take your pick.

This.

I could see someone looking to trade up to grab Doug Martin @ 30

I know that and you know what I meant.

I was just going over my WR list and man, this is a DEEEEEEEP WR class. Cant remember liking so many prospects. We know all about the usual suspects but a ton of guys they aren't getting alot of pub I think could be steals.....

AJ Jenkins
Greg Childs
TJ Graham
Danny Coale
Lance Lewis
DeMarlo Belcher(character concerns)
T.Y. Hilton
Jarius Wright
Kris Burd

Going to be interesting just who we draft at WR and where they're drafted. Also was looking at the safties, as thats aegubaly our thinnest position on the team. Outside of our starters and Spillman, no depth there what so ever. The staff still isnt sure whether Jones is more suited for offense or defense. Nelms is probably headed for the PS again. LeGree seems to be a fringe player so I see a need there for some bodies.

One of the more intriging players I've come across leading up to the draft is Neiko Thorpe. Thorpe played CB for Auburn for 3 years. Had a great sophmore year, so much so alot ppl pegged him as a future top 20 pick. He had a subpar junior year, and then he was asked to moved to FS before last year where he was solid there as a senior. Thorpe has a great size, at 6'3, 200 lbs. He has good speed(4.50 forty) and he reminds me alot of Cully, a guy who switched positions in the secondary before his senior year and didnt wow ppl after the switch but showed our scouts his potential and his versatility. Thorpe could be that FS/CB hybrid type of player I have been talking about for some time now in the discussion thread. Some other safties I like....

Brandon Taylor
Harrison Smith
Markelle Martin
Aaron Henry
Jerrell Young
Trenton Robinson
Trumaine Johnson
Brandon Hardin
Sean Richardson(SS)
Tavon Wilson(SS)
Winston Guy, Jr.(SS)

If the Niners do not value anyone worthy of the 30th at that stage, what makes you think another team will? Given the rookie wage scale, it's realistic to believe that the Niners will simply draft someone most "experts" have given a 2nd round grade at that time, as there is far less financial risk than years prior.

Scout says Fleener may be most overrated guy in draft

http://m.nbcsports.com/s/3108/proFoo...draft&%238221;

I was REALLY intrigued by Belcher as a late-round gem...



and then he ran a 4.73 at his Pro-Day.

Because another team may want a player who plays a position that we dont need to waste a draft pick on and thus, want to trade up.

I read that and dont care what that scout says. Its all bullcrap. The scout most likely works for a team that wants Fleener and thus, bashes him. I want Fleener!!!

Meh, he's faster than that. But he wasnt in the best shape at his Pro Day from the reports I read. I remember reading on the Hoosier board that he clocked 4.4 flat during the spring one year. I think thats more of what kind of speed I saw when I watched him play. But when you get kicked off the team and you have months to prepare for your Pro Day and you still dont prepare, thats where the character concerns come into play. Dez Bryant and Perrish Cox had similar disatrous workouts after being kicked off their respective teams and still wound up erasing concerns about their perceived "lack of foot speed". Belcher could do the same. But it wouldnt shock me if he didnt get drafted. I just think he has some upside which teams should consider.