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mightytitan9 04-25-2012 12:42 PM

Asante Samuel to Falcons
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Good move by the Falcons, holding onto hope...

Asteinebach 04-25-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mightytitan9 (Post 2965289)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Good move by the Falcons, holding onto hope...

I think they'll get a 5th round pick for Asante Samuel. Great move by Atlanta, especially getting him to restructure his deal.

Bert Macklin 04-25-2012 01:03 PM

Not worried

lowlife 04-25-2012 01:39 PM

That's one rich secondary

Halsey 04-25-2012 01:57 PM

This move feels very connected to the reasoning for not re-signing Curtis Lofton. I wonder how long this move has been in the works. It seems reasonable that Dimitroff may have been targeting Samuel for a while.

GaMeTiMe 04-25-2012 02:11 PM

See ya. Good move for Atlanta but I'm not sure there are a lot of Philly fans that mind seeing him go. A corner like Boykin could definitely get a look in the draft but I'm not sure how they feel about Marsh at this point

georgiafan 04-25-2012 02:14 PM

what round draft pick?

holt_bruce81 04-25-2012 02:17 PM

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Asante, I think he's kind of an overrated player. But I'm hearing it's for a 6th rounder so I'm pissed the Rams didnt go after him.

holt_bruce81 04-25-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by georgiafan (Post 2965491)
what round draft pick?

6th round. I think

descendency 04-25-2012 02:50 PM

6th round pick? I know NE doesn't have a 6th rounder... but man I can't see why we didn't do something.

I know he's not great at much besides picking the ball off, but that's pretty important. I mean Deion Sanders made a Hall of Fame career on it.

ATLDirtyBirds 04-25-2012 02:55 PM

Obviously, I'm thrilled. While Asante's far from perfect, he's a great fit for what we're trying to do here. Nickle defense has been a massive issue for this team for quite some time, and this can only help.


The question now becomes, what do we do with our nickle situation? It's kind of Eagles-esque in that none of these guys are all that familiar with the position.

If it were my call, Dunta Robinson would move to the nickle. Grimes and Asante are both very good off man guys, so let them do their thing on the outside. Keeping Dunta on the inside will let him be more physical (while not having to worry as much about the deep ball) and snick his nose in the run game to compensate for Asante being an awful run defender.

dunagan15 04-25-2012 03:10 PM

I really like the move, esp for a 6th rounder. Great start to the draft week.

Complex 04-25-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2965550)
6th round pick? I know NE doesn't have a 6th rounder... but man I can't see why we didn't do something.

I know he's not great at much besides picking the ball off, but that's pretty important. I mean Deion Sanders made a Hall of Fame career on it.

Yes that is why Deion made the HOF because of INT numbers.:rolleyes:

ATLDirtyBirds 04-25-2012 03:49 PM

The Falcons gave up their 7th. Wow.

Monomach 04-25-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2965669)
The Falcons gave up their 7th. Wow.

Well, I think it's safe to say that Atlanta gets an A+++ on this one...

Halsey 04-25-2012 04:11 PM

I've been a Falcon's fan too long to buy this Samuel for a 7th rounder stuff. When's the part that we find out the Falcons also included a 2013 2nd rounder?

eaglesalltheway 04-25-2012 04:17 PM

Eagles reporting its just a 7th... Good trade for you falcons fans. I would've liked to get more in return, but I have a feeling the Eagles forced their hand too early and lost a lot of leverage. Teams knew he wasn't in their future plans, and only offered these types of deals. I still would have hoped for more than a 7th rounder, but its better than releasing him, which is what was bound to happen if he couldn't be traded. Now we have room to sign guys like Shady, Maclin and DRC if he performs well in his first year as a starter. Shady and Maclin are far more important to the team than Asante is, so if this enables them to get them on for long term deals, this makes sense.

BaLLiN 04-25-2012 04:25 PM

I don't get it...was this purely for cap reasons for the eagles?

eaglesalltheway 04-25-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2965762)
I don't get it...was this purely for cap reasons for the eagles?

They are going to say that, but he also didn't fit in with the press-man they wanted to implement. Those are the two biggest factors, and I'd say they were the majority, if not almost all, of the reason he was traded, and for so little. I'd bet he has about one good season in him yet before he starts really declining, the Eagles are great at knowing when to cut ties with veterans. But even one great season of CB play and however many average seasons the Falcons get out of him is worth a 7th rounder, IMO.

ATLDirtyBirds 04-25-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2965762)
I don't get it...was this purely for cap reasons for the eagles?


That, and he was the odd man out of those DBs (Aso and DRC much better man defenders).

mightytitan9 04-25-2012 05:13 PM

wow, I really woulda thought another team would have offered higher. Unless they did and Asante turned them down by refusing to restructure

eaglesalltheway 04-25-2012 05:15 PM

Hadn't thought of that, mightytitan, that could very well be possible.

mightytitan9 04-25-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway (Post 2965896)
Hadn't thought of that, mightytitan, that could very well be possible.

That's the only thing I can think of, Asante may have wanted to go to a playoff team and there weren't many to choose from

bigbluedefense 04-25-2012 05:30 PM

I will say this: Asante Samuel was the Eagles best CB.

I understand that Nmandi and DRC both fit the scheme more, but both are overrated as hell.

Especially Nmandi. Asante Samuel is a better CB than Nmandi Asomugha. This was a mistake by Philly in the short term. Obviously if this means they can sign Maclin and Shady long term, then it's a great move.

But don't let them fool you, they could have signed both Maclin and Shady long term even if they kept Asante for another year. Trading him was irrelevant to anyone other than the owner who pockets that 10 mill, and the 7th rounder who gets selected by the Eagles.

Go_Eagles77 04-25-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 2965939)
I will say this: Asante Samuel was the Eagles best CB.

I understand that Nmandi and DRC both fit the scheme more, but both are overrated as hell.

Especially Nmandi. Asante Samuel is a better CB than Nmandi Asomugha. This was a mistake by Philly in the short term. Obviously if this means they can sign Maclin and Shady long term, then it's a great move.

But don't let them fool you, they could have signed both Maclin and Shady long term even if they kept Asante for another year. Trading him was irrelevant to anyone other than the owner who pockets that 10 mill, and the 7th rounder who gets selected by the Eagles.

This tells me the eagles are looking to play a strictly man defense, the reason why Nnamdi and DRC looked so bad last year was because they were playing Nnamdi in zone for most of the year (he looked excellent once they realized how stupid that was) and DRC played mainly in the slot, which just isn't his strong suit. I don't think they're going to be the best duo in the league, but they should be more than formidable. Still, I was expecting more than a 7th round pick for Asante.


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