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tjsunstein 05-01-2012 06:13 PM

2013 Pass Rushers
 
The 2012 draft class was weak but this draft is so much stronger. These aren't my rankings by any means, just meant for general discussion.

Defensive Ends:
1. William Gholston, Michigan State
2. Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas
3. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
4. Alex Okafor, Texas
5. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
6. Corey Lemonier, Auburn
7. John Simon, Ohio State
8. Devin Taylor, South Carolina
9. Dion Jordan, Oregon
10. Tank Carradine, Florida State
11. Ronald Powell, Florida

Outside Linebackers:
1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
3. Brandon Jenkins, Florida State
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
5. Sean Porter, Texas A&M
6. Chase Thomas, Stanford

Discussion, notes, facts, stats encouraged.

TuckNole 05-01-2012 06:17 PM

FSU has 3. Add Tank Carradine. He will go before Werner and Jenkins IMO.

Matthew Jones 05-01-2012 06:19 PM

I really like Devin Taylor. Tall, long-limbed, powerful, and has dropped into coverage regularly.

JRTPlaya21 05-01-2012 06:49 PM

RoPo tore his ACL in the offseason so his status for the season is kind of a toss up.

Master Exploder 05-01-2012 06:50 PM

Do you think Jarvis Jones's injury history will bump him down?

Don Vito 05-01-2012 07:01 PM

The thought of Sam Montgomery on the other side of Chandler Jones with a combo of Mayo, Spikes, and Hightower in the middle makes me happy in the pants.

I really like a lot of these guys and I would like to see us cash in on at least one other front 7 player next April. Too much talent to pass up on.

OSUGiants17 05-01-2012 07:06 PM

I love the combo of DEs at Texas this year, both of them have huge potential. I think Jarvis Jones, Barkevious Mingo, Jelani Jenkins, Brandon Jenkins, and Sean Porter will all be fantastic 3-4 OLBs. I am iffy on if Gholston can be a 3-4 OLB or not.

Duffman57 05-01-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUGiants17 (Post 2981782)
I love the combo of DEs at Texas this year, both of them have huge potential. I think Jarvis Jones, Barkevious Mingo, Jelani Jenkins, Brandon Jenkins, and Sean Porter will all be fantastic 3-4 OLBs. I am iffy on if Gholston can be a 3-4 OLB or not.

Dont be iffy, he cant, plain and simple...

Jelani Jenkins i thought was more of a ILB in a 34? He's REAL small for a pass rusher at only 6' and like 235 if that.

Jones and Mingo are my favorites in this class.

Just a guy to add in...and this is coming from someone who has watched every one of his games for the last 2 years...and has a friend coaching him at Oregon...Dion Jordan is a FREAK, and a freaking MONSTER. 6'7" great burst, and EXTREMELY agile, already plays OLB, and sometimes they lined him up on the outside receiver (yeah, like on the sidelines) and had him bump the receiver to help out our young CB's. He's going to be a special player.

draftguru151 05-01-2012 07:16 PM

Dominique Easley is the best everything. Jarvis Jones definitely looks like the top edge guy, hopefully he bulks up a bit though.

dannyz 05-01-2012 07:21 PM

I Love the next couple of years for pass rushers. I saw nothing Special with any of the 2012 guys at all and don't think any of them will be Great but with this 2013 Class guys like Montgomery, Mingo, Werner, Gholston, Jeffcoat could all be Top 15 Picks or higher. I know the 2012 Draft just got over but I like Jadeveon Clowney and Aaron Lynch better than everybody in the 2012 Class as well.

keylime_5 05-01-2012 07:43 PM

Simon is kinda like Melvin Ingram. I think he'll play linebacker - maybe ILB in a 2 gap system - when he gets to the NFL. 'Tweener in a negative way, but his work ethic is unreal and he is a player who can get in the backfield and make plays. Urban Meyer said the only one other player with his work ethic he's seen is Tim Tebow.

dannyz is right though, I can't wait for 2014 when we get Aaron Lynch and Jadeveon Clowney at DE (not to mention Sammy Watkins and Marquise Lee at WR).

mightytitan9 05-01-2012 08:28 PM

lets not get too far ahead of ourselves, I mean last year people were saying Donte' Paige-Moss was a potential first rounder

P-L 05-01-2012 08:58 PM

I love this class of pass rushers. KeKe Mingo is my favorite draft prospect this year. 6'5" 240 with a sub-4.50 40? Yes, please. At that weight he'll probably have to play in a 3-4, but he can flat out get to the quarterback. It's also impressive that 7/8 sacks and 9/11 hurries came against SEC competition.

RaiderNation 05-01-2012 09:03 PM

Jones and Mingo have to be the top guys heading into the 2013 draft, both are physical freaks ready to break out in the SEC like many of the prospects before them.

Just like the last 2 years, there hasn't been a clear top DT prospect at the start of the draft process. Hopefully a sack artist can emerge like Fairley did as a one year wonder. Jesse Williams from 'Bama is someone to watch.

ElectricEye 05-01-2012 09:09 PM

Yeah, Mingo's speed and acceleration when he turns the corner is absolutely bonkers. Jarvis Jones had an amazing season last year and has a chance to be even better this season. Big fan of those two as outside linebackers. Both have the potential to be elite level pass rushers in the NFL.

The class as a whole is very good too. Big fan of Bjoern Werner as a 4-3 guy. He's still learning the game, but his natural strength really makes him shine both as a pass rusher and against the run.

asdf1223 05-01-2012 09:31 PM

Love both LSU DE's and Jarvis Jones. I think all 3 of them make great 3-4 OLBs.

holt_bruce81 05-01-2012 09:38 PM

Can Mingo play DE in a 43?

ElectricEye 05-01-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81 (Post 2982032)
Can Mingo play DE in a 43?

He would have to add at least 25 pounds. He has the frame to do it, but that's a lot of weight and it's not an ideal fit. I'm more interested in seeing the type of player he develops into without trying to mess with too much.

TuckNole 05-01-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holt_bruce81 (Post 2982032)
Can Mingo play DE in a 43?

I'm iffy on that. But I actually think that Montgomery could. Despite playing at 245, he held the POA against pretty much everyone he faced. He is crazy strong, and plays really low. Just based on film, I like Montgomery better than Mingo, but that's just me.

SenorGato 05-02-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuckNole (Post 2982173)
I'm iffy on that. But I actually think that Montgomery could. Despite playing at 245, he held the POA against pretty much everyone he faced. He is crazy strong, and plays really low. Just based on film, I like Montgomery better than Mingo, but that's just me.

I like Montgomery more as well.

Both Texas DEs are pretty nasty, especially Okafor.

killxswitch 05-02-2012 08:41 AM

I read Bjoern Werner and was intrigued. I Googled him hoping to find this:



but instead I found this:


Razor 05-02-2012 08:56 AM

I think that Jarvis Jones and Mingo are overrated at this point tbh. I like Montgomery, Gholston and Lemonier much more at this point.

$0.02

cajuncorey 05-02-2012 10:37 AM

i had a linebacker and his name was... mingo!

cmarq83 05-02-2012 10:55 AM

I just don't like the chances of anybody named Bjoern making it in the NFL.

TuckNole 05-02-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmarq83 (Post 2982525)
I just don't like the chances of anybody named Bjoern making it in the NFL.

Oh come on, he's perfect for Chris Berman:

"...and Bjoern-to-do-this Werner gets the sack"


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