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Sloopy 05-17-2012 03:18 PM

SEC vs PAC 12
 
SEC


PAC 12


Can the speedy skill position players of the SEC stand up to the violent defense that is the PAC 12?

Can the talented SEC CBs cover the speedy PAC 12 WRs?

Can the all time great Abraham get after Aaron Rodgers and disrupt a potent passing attack?

AntoinCD 05-17-2012 03:30 PM

This is a real good match up.

I like both offenses and I think they could score against any defense.

Neither offensive line is dominant but they are both steady.

I think this one comes down to who can create more pressure with their front 7 and I think that goes to the Pac 12 quite comfortably.

With Ngata up front and T-Sizzle and Clay coming off the edge they should constantly be in the offensive backfield.

I like the four man line of the SEC but I just don't see it causing as much damage up front.

Both secondarys are strong so it may come down to which QB has more time to throw. I'll take Rodgers against the SEC over Eli against the Pac 12

jrdrylie 05-17-2012 03:43 PM

This one is a nice matchup.

Quarterback, running back, and offensive line are pretty much a push. The SEC has better receivers but the PAC-10 has a slightly better Tight End. Both have a great corner and pretty even safeties.

The advantage comes from the front seven. They are pretty even there but give me Suggs and Matthews over Johnson and Witherspoon any day. In a close one, PAC 12.

georgiafan 05-17-2012 04:21 PM

I have to go with the SEC and the 5 UGA players including 3 of the 4 DL.

Sloopy 05-17-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgiafan (Post 3002790)
I have to go with the SEC and the 5 UGA players including 3 of the 4 DL.

I'm not saying you did this, but I just want to take the time to remind everyone that you aren't just supposed to vote for who you think the best conference is or the conference your favorite team plays in.

If we did that I don't think anyone would think of the defense that the Pac12 team actually has etc. we would just go based on preconceived stereotypes

Again georgiafan, I'm not saying you did it. I'm just reminding everyone.

vidae 05-17-2012 04:44 PM

I went with the SEC but this one was even closer than the ACC/Big10. I could have gone either way with this one though. I almost regret voting SEC already but meh.

ImBrotherCain 05-17-2012 04:47 PM

I voted Pac 12 and as others have said it isn't by much.

Sloopy 05-17-2012 07:07 PM

votes are a lot closer on this one than I though it would be

ChiFan24 05-17-2012 07:49 PM

Trufant can't be the other Pac-10 corner.....off the top of my head, maybe Terrell Thomas instead? Because Wallace vs. Trufant would be an absolute raping, and enough to swing my vote in favor of the SEC.

Rosebud 05-17-2012 07:57 PM

Eli throwing the ball to Mike Wallace :explode:

mightytitan9 05-17-2012 08:16 PM

I think you've gotta go SEC, that run game paired with that line and WR combination would be too good to pass

21ST 05-17-2012 08:37 PM

I feel like cam should be the qb

Rosebud 05-17-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 21ST (Post 3003088)
I feel like cam should be the qb

Why? (10 char)

ChiFan24 05-17-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 21ST (Post 3003088)
I feel like cam should be the qb

Ehhh maybe you should keep those feelings to yourself.

tjsunstein 05-17-2012 09:38 PM

Went with the PAC12. I think another WR and CB need to be added for both with how the NFL is today.

XxXdragonXxX 05-17-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiFan24 (Post 3002994)
Trufant can't be the other Pac-10 corner.....off the top of my head, maybe Terrell Thomas instead? Because Wallace vs. Trufant would be an absolute raping, and enough to swing my vote in favor of the SEC.

Trufant has atleast 2, possibly 4 pac12 corners ahead of him on the depth chart on his own team...maybe if this was 2006 he could be on there.

Sloopy 05-17-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXdragonXxX (Post 3003246)
Trufant has atleast 2, possibly 4 pac12 corners ahead of him on the depth chart on his own team...maybe if this was 2006 he could be on there.

Hmmm, seems to be a consensus, if they do make it through to the championship I will change the roster.

Could we maybe get a vote going for who should replace him.

I myself liked Browner the best but I wasn't sure about the rest of the boards feelings on him and went with the guy at least everyone will

Also while we are on the subject, I was really tempted to go T.J. Ward over Troy, however I figured an argument could be made that with that stacked of a defense, Troy would be able to roam and do what he does best

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjsunstein (Post 3003222)
Went with the PAC12. I think another WR and CB need to be added for both with how the NFL is today.

I will definitely take this into consideration and possibly add a WR and CB to each team for the championship game.

I'm not sure I would want to add them now as some people have already voted



I'll also throw my two cents in here:

I think that despite Trufant, the rest of the D is about as solid as it gets.

The SEC has a good line but I can't imagine that they would be able to fend off that front 7, especially if Troy was free to throw in some safety blitzes.

Foster would likely be bottled up, and the receivers might not even be able to make it down field before Eli would be on his ass.

On the other hand, I think the Pac 12 have a good enough line to give Rodgers time to make the throws he needs to and you can't discount Rodgers' mobility

Then I look at the SEC safety duo. Clark isn't a slouch but I don't think he is going to keep anyone from trying the deep ball. Berry is good but he may have to be on Gronk all day long if they even hope to contain his #s.

I had to go Pac 12 here.

WCH 05-17-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Desean Jackson
TE: Rob Gronkowski
I think I just had a footballgasm.

Rosebud 05-17-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloopy (Post 3003291)
Hmmm, seems to be a consensus, if they do make it through to the championship I will change the roster.

Could we maybe get a vote going for who should replace him.

I myself liked Browner the best but I wasn't sure about the rest of the boards feelings on him and went with the guy at least everyone will

Also while we are on the subject, I was really tempted to go T.J. Ward over Troy, however I figured an argument could be made that with that stacked of a defense, Troy would be able to roam and do what he does best



I will definitely take this into consideration and possibly add a WR and CB to each team for the championship game.

I'm not sure I would want to add them now as some people have already voted



I'll also throw my two cents in here:

I think that despite Trufant, the rest of the D is about as solid as it gets.

The SEC has a good line but I can't imagine that they would be able to fend off that front 7, especially if Troy was free to throw in some safety blitzes.

Foster would likely be bottled up, and the receivers might not even be able to make it down field before Eli would be on his ass.

On the other hand, I think the Pac 12 have a good enough line to give Rodgers time to make the throws he needs to and you can't discount Rodgers' mobility

Then I look at the SEC safety duo. Clark isn't a slouch but I don't think he is going to keep anyone from trying the deep ball. Berry is good but he may have to be on Gronk all day long if they even hope to contain his #s.

I had to go Pac 12 here.

Eli behind that line would have more time than he did behind the giants OL this year. *shrug* Plus Eli throwing the ball deep to Mike Wallace and Hakeem Nicks-SEC edition. Bonerific.

diabsoule 05-17-2012 10:23 PM

Just curious why Geno Atkins is at DT over Nick Fairley, Jay Ratliff, Kyle Williams?

Maybe Joe Haden over Champ Bailey? Richard Seymour could be a backup.

Jerod Mayo over Witherspoon or Johnson?

Complex 05-17-2012 10:25 PM

The SEC does not put out great D-Line men

mightytitan9 05-17-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule (Post 3003329)
Just curious why Geno Atkins is at DT over Nick Fairley



Jerod Mayo over Witherspoon or Johnson?

What has Fairley proved to be over Atkins?

and Mayo is on the list...

Rosebud 05-17-2012 10:31 PM

Fairley isn't, but I'd take Kyle Williams over Richard Seymour and Haden or Webster over Champ. Charles Johnson seems like he could be upgraded on and the same goes for Clark.

JHL6719 05-17-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Complex (Post 3003331)
The SEC does not put out great D-Line men


Since when?

Complex 05-17-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHL6719 (Post 3003339)
Since when?

Since Geno and John Abraham are on the list.


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