4 Power Conferences?
The league would work like the same theory that's been tossed around. 8 8-team divisions with the Conference Championships acting as the Quarterfinals and the Semifinals being the Rose Bowl and whatever the SEC-Big XII calls their new game.
I don't know how Baylor could be left out, they'd be a natural in Conference 1 and with the talent surrounding them it may be slowly developing into a national power.
I'd add Baylor to conference 1, of course if you're wanting to stay at 64 teams someone would have to be moved from there. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, seem like the most likely to be moved. Of course, in that scenario they'd be best to be moved to Conference 2.
Duke could probably be left off the list in all honesty.
If this is just football, I would remove Kansas, Indiana, Connecticut, and Vanderbilt. Rutgers definitely deserves a spot as does Baylor. The last two spots I would give to BYU and UCF.
I'm contemplating going up to 72 as the conferences could more easily be evened out.
Personally, I'm not buying into the mega-conference thing because it'd simply put too much strain on a lot of commissioners. I think, in reality it's going to be 8 conference ranging from 8-10 teams each.
Essentially, how yours works but they'd be conference instead of divisions. Then, they just have a contract that the champion of conference 1 plays conference 2's champion and so on.
I like the thought put behind it, but realistically it's just a lot of work to commish and look over a conference that expands Wisconsin to Texas for example.
Of course, a way to get around this is to basically give each division it's own commissioner and have anything relating to the conference as a whole up to vote or however you want a tie-breaker
I see teams like Houston and Tulsa, smaller schools that are moving being left out and it'd hurt for me to see that because if half the teams in NCAA football are in 4 conferences, the other half of the teams are going to basically be second class citizens
Well, the biggest distance in the probably northern division of what would basically be the Big 12 is Manhattan, KS to Madison, WI (~10 hours). And probably Lubbock, TX to Fayetteville, AR (9.5 hours). When the Big XII is already talking about going from Ames, IA to Tallahassee, FL (further than Austin to Madison and also in a different time zone), I don't see how going from Austin-to-Madison isn't viable.
What is the purpose of this thing, exactly? Is this supposed to be at all realistic?
Well, if this is just for fun make-believe, I'll put mine out there.
1) Penn State
2) Ohio State
2) Notre Dame
5) Michigan State
4) Virginia Tech
8) South Carolina
4) Florida State
5) Georgia Tech
7) West Virginia
8) N.C. State
2) Texas A&M
10) Oklahoma State
11) Texas Tech
7) Arizona State
12) Oregon State
Teams left out: Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Iowa State, Louisville, South Florida, Cincinnati, Mississippi State, Wake Forest, Kansas State, Washington State
Interesting to see you left out Boise State
Not at all. I didn't even consider Boise State. There's a reason the Pac 12 and the Big 12 have repeatedly passed on them.
The Big East is incredibly desperate to stay relevant in football.
No, although academic patheticness doesn't help.
Boise State simply doesn't make that much money compared to the bigger college sports programs. They averaged 27 million in non-subsidized revenue from 2006-2011. By contrast, a smallish program like Purdue made 66 million.
Now, a lot of that has to do with TV money, which Purdue gets, and Boise State really doesn't. But the reason why Boise State doesn't, is because the Boise, Idaho market isn't exactly pulling in the eyeballs.
They are a tremendous mid-major program. Probably the best. They have a potentially good thing worked out with the Big East where they can scratch each other's backs. But there is a definite ceiling to a program like Boise State, and I wouldn't even consider them if I was starting a mega conference. The point is to make money.
Objective, 15 8 team conferences that make sense geografically yet are somewhat balanced strengthwise. The reason for 8 is that it imo is the ideal conference size as it allows for a decent OOC schedule (and therefore maintaining the vital rivalries) and also allowing a full conference schedule:
Conference California and Hawaii:
San Diego State
San Jose State
South West Conference, has nothing to do with the old one
New Mexico State
Central American Conference
The Big Cornfield
Southern Ohio and mountainside conference
Central East Coast
Non-Coastal Soutern conference
Middle Tennessee State
a 24 team playoff with 8 byes, only conference champs are eligibile for a bye, all 15 conference champs make the playoffs and no more than 2 teams from a conference. That basically means 23 total postseason games with at most 5 playoff games for any team (which would however mean that a team would need to make it to the NCG from a bye).
I know itll never happen but was fun to think how it looked with all the conferences moving weirdly and nowhere
You're left out list is humorous to say the least
TCU is somewhat of an exception, but their other programs are still better than Boise's and they've got the talent in their recruiting area to grow as a program. Boise has a limited ceiling, and if they were in the Big 12 or Pac I would have a hard time seeing them finish higher than middle of the pack.
People will argue their history of showing up in big games, but that's one game. It's not big games on consecutive weeks of the season
I think Boise State would grow exponentially if they were put in a better regional situation where they are a real option for athletes in both football as well as other sports. They have natural rivals in Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, and the Utah schools.
Washington State and Utah are (or should be in Utah's case) cogs in the larger wheels that are Washington and BYU respectively (rivalries were a very important part of my original 64).
I don't disagree with your ideas of why the big conferences aren't high on Boise. Nor do I disagree that they don't want Boise. But I think, as a football program, they've put themselves in a "can't be ignored" position. And if I'm making fantasy conferences, I'm going to include them.
I'm also probably including San Diego State, Fresno State, Colorado State (probably not C-State), and Air Force if I get around to expanding it to 72 to even out the conferences.
Boise State and Va Tech IMO are equivalent programs.
You put Boise in a major conference and all their sports teams become more competitive. If the Pac took Boise, they'd be up to speed across the board academically and overall athletics in about 5 years.
College football is going to hell all over greed. It's a shame.
Of all the proposals, I like wicket's the best, but damn it seems complicated.
I think its good but you can describe more things to this post so we can understand.....
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