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gpngc 08-06-2012 05:01 PM

Who will win OROY?
 
23001 Aj Jenkins +2200
23002 Alshon Jeffery +2200
23003 Andrew Luck +300
23004 Brandon Weeden +1300
23005 Brian Quick +2500
23006 Coby Fleener +1650
23007 David Wilson +1650
23008 Doug Martin +1650
23009 Justin Blackmon +750
23010 Kendall Wright +2200
23011 Lamichael James +2200
23012 Michael Floyd +1400
23013 Robert Griffin Iii +450
23014 Rueben Randle +2200
23015 Ryan Broyles +2200
23016 Ryan Tannehill +2250
23017 Stephen Hill +2000
23018 Trent Richardson +550
23019 Field (all Others) +850

VernonLawson89 08-06-2012 05:05 PM

LaMichael James

Bixby (Thumper) 08-06-2012 05:06 PM

Trent Richardson or Doug Martin

Shane P. Hallam 08-06-2012 05:09 PM

Luck, but Weeden a good option for the money there.

Where are these lines from?

PackerLegend 08-06-2012 05:10 PM

Ill go with RG3 over Luck.

SuperPacker 08-06-2012 05:18 PM

Richardson, Luck and Griffin are the only one's that have a chance.

Splat 08-06-2012 05:29 PM

Devon Wylie.

I have been told he is the next Wes Welker, you know because he is white and plays WR...

FUNBUNCHER 08-06-2012 06:02 PM

Trent Richardson would have to rush for over 1250 yards and/or 12 TDs IMO to beat out a rookie QB for OROTY.

RGIII is going to have more Sportscenter highlights than any of the other rookies, he's the safe pick for the award.

But I do think people are underrating Luck going into the season even though he leads this poll.

With Fleener and Dwayne Allen, I could see Luck easily passing for 3500yds/65%completions/26 TDs and 17 INTs.

Luck could have the best set of pass catching TEs after NE and Detroit.

TACKLE 08-06-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 3081413)
Trent Richardson would have to rush for over 1250 yards and/or 12 TDs IMO to beat out a rookie QB for OROTY.

Not only do I think that's plausible, I'm expecting those numbers from him.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender 08-06-2012 06:08 PM

Alshon will definitely be up for it.

jsagan77 08-06-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 3081413)
Trent Richardson would have to rush for over 1250 yards and/or 12 TDs IMO to beat out a rookie QB for OROTY.

RGIII is going to have more Sportscenter highlights than any of the other rookies, he's the safe pick for the award.

But I do think people are underrating Luck going into the season even though he leads this poll.

With Fleener and Dwayne Allen, I could see Luck easily passing for 3500yds/65%completions/26 TDs and 17 INTs.

Luck could have the best set of pass catching TEs after NE and Detroit.


Skins got a good set of pass catching TE's. Let those two play some downs before putting them on a pedestal.

FUNBUNCHER 08-06-2012 06:46 PM

I'd take Fleener and Dwayne Allen over Cooley/Fred Davis/Niles Paul and it's not even close.

Fleener/Allen are potentially elite pro bowl, multi skilled TEs who both have the ability to be dominant in the vertical game and at the LOS blocking.

Cooley's seen better days, Fred Davis has more growing up to do and Niles Paul is more a specialist than a true TE.

Fleener/Allen are both 6'4 or taller, 245+# with 4.5 speed or better.

Anyway, this is about why I think Luck is a quasi-darkhorse for OROTY. His rookie TEs are very studly IMO.

BuckeyeDan17 08-06-2012 07:23 PM

I'd love to see Richardson get it obviously, but if I were to pick him it means I'm putting enough faith in Weeden and our completely unproven group of WRs to play well enough to keep the run game open. I don't have that faith.

Luck may not put up eye-popping numbers but I believe he will be sure and steady throughout the season, having a few games showing what he has the potential to be.. I'll go Luck

jsagan77 08-06-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 3081456)
I'd take Fleener and Dwayne Allen over Cooley/Fred Davis/Niles Paul and it's not even close.

Fleener/Allen are potentially elite pro bowl, multi skilled TEs who both have the ability to be dominant in the vertical game and at the LOS blocking.

Cooley's seen better days, Fred Davis has more growing up to do and Niles Paul is more a specialist than a true TE.

Fleener/Allen are both 6'4 or taller, 245+# with 4.5 speed or better.

Anyway, this is about why I think Luck is a quasi-darkhorse for OROTY. His rookie TEs are very studly IMO.

Well this is a draft site so it doesn't shock me that you'd take two Rookies who've never played a down and may not do crap in the NFL over two guys who have and are much more acclimated to the NFL game.

K Train 08-06-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 3081370)
Richardson, Luck and Griffin are the only one's that have a chance.

this. its who performs better between luck and griffin, unless richardson DOMINATES

FUNBUNCHER 08-06-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jsagan77 (Post 3081511)
Well this is a draft site so it doesn't shock me that you'd take two Rookies who've never played a down and may not do crap in the NFL over two guys who have and are much more acclimated to the NFL game.

Coby Fleener and Dwayne Allen and superior pro prospects compared to Fred Davis/Chris Cooley/Niles Paul.

You're talking about the top 2 TEs in the previous draft, including the fact that Fleener and Luck have had a mind meld for three years.

It's still all about Andrew Luck, but we're talking TEs here, not rookie WRs. Generally speaking the transition to the pro game and their ability to have an immediate impact is much higher for TEs than it is for most offensive skill positions, excluding RBs.


You know you'd trade Cooley/Paul/Davis for Fleener/Allen straight up and run like hell cause you got away with grand larceny!!lol

jsagan77 08-06-2012 11:00 PM

I think that trade is a high risk high reward trade, not the knock down drag out win you're assuming.

TACKLE 08-06-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 3081456)
Fleener/Allen are both 6'4 or taller, 245+# with 4.5 speed or better.

I'm impressed that Dwayne Allen has been able to cut 3-4 tenths off his forty time in the last couple months.

Rosebud 08-06-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 3081370)
Richardson, Luck and Griffin are the only one's that have a chance.

Then why did you vote for Weeden?

Bucs_Rule 08-07-2012 04:23 AM

It wasn't such a long time ago that no one would suggest a rookie QB would win. Only one QB won OPOY since the NFL started until 2004. Dennis Shaw won it in 1970 if anyone is wondering. RBs almost always won it with occasional WRs getting it.

Halsey 08-07-2012 07:47 AM

Andrew Luck

I think there's a good chance he'll be the next rookie QB to immediately be a quality starting QB. It's trendy to pick RG3 to have the better rookie year, but Luck is going to better as a rookie and beyond.

SuperPacker 08-07-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 3081725)
Then why did you vote for Weeden?

I think one of those 3 will win it, but if I was betting i'd go with Weeden! All about the value my friend.

killxswitch 08-07-2012 09:09 AM

I actually think Luck will throw too many INTs to win. Still voted for him though.

K Train 08-07-2012 09:21 AM

bradford won and he threw 18/15, luck will at least match that. I wouldnt be surprised to see 25/15 with those TEs and Reggie Wayne/Austin Collie. And imo the rams are an overall worse team

NY+Giants=NYG 08-07-2012 10:02 AM

I think it's going to come down to Andrew L and Bob G. I think Bob will get the award because of his hype he is getting now. Even if he does avg, I think the media will hype him up.


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