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shylo3716 08-30-2012 06:43 PM

2013 Underrated NFL Prospects Thread
 
QB Mike Glennon NC State
QB Tajh Boyd Clemson
RB Andre Ellington Clemson
RB Kenjon Barner Oregon
WR Mike Davis Texas
WR Kenny Stills Oklahoma
WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson
CB Dee Milliner Alabama
CB Micah Hyde Iowa
CB Desmond Trufant Washington
S Bacarri Rambo Georgia
S Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL)

Matthew Jones 08-30-2012 07:56 PM

Where do you think those players are being slotted currently, and where do you think they would go?

Witten4HOF 08-30-2012 08:04 PM

Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers- Former safety who flies around the field and can deliver knock out blows. Lead the Big East in tackles and was 12th in the nation last year. Perfect fit for the weak side of a Tampa Two or any other 4-3 scheme that covets speedy linebackers.

I think at this point scouts have him as a mid third round value, but I would but him at a high 2nd round / low 1st round talent.

shylo3716 08-31-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 3102599)
Where do you think those players are being slotted currently, and where do you think they would go?

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Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 3102555)
QB Mike Glennon NC State Rank #79 pos #10
QB Tajh Boyd Clemson pos #10 class 2014
RB Andre Ellington Clemson Rank #89 pos #6
RB Kenjon Barner Oregon Rank #211 pos #18
WR Mike Davis Texas pos #17 class 2014
WR Kenny Stills Oklahoma Rank #151 pos #18
WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson pos #13 class 2014
CB Dee Milliner Alabama Rank #47 pos #5
CB Micah Hyde Iowa Rank #93 pos #9
CB Desmond Trufant Washington Rank #168 pos #20
S Bacarri Rambo Georgia Rank #118 pos #5
S Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL) Rank #373 pos #19

I added the rankings from cbssports.com

ChiFan24 09-01-2012 06:08 PM

I don't get Barner's appeal.

holt_bruce81 09-01-2012 08:13 PM

EJ Gaines. Dude will be a monster.

kwilk103 09-01-2012 09:05 PM

homer alert:

qb geno smith
wr stedman bailey----rsjr

BrabbitMcRabbit 09-02-2012 12:15 AM

Yuck. Barner is nothing special at all:

Underrated prospects:

QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
RB Branden Oliver, Buffalo
RB Stepfan Taylor, Stanford
WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
WR Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma

703SKINS202 09-02-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kwilk103 (Post 3104361)
homer alert:

qb geno smith
wr stedman bailey----rsjr

I'd project him as a late 2nd early 3rd where he would be a bargain. Will be the best pro from this West Virginia offense.

Matthew Jones 09-02-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shylo3716 (Post 3103299)
I added the rankings from cbssports.com

Based on that list, I'd say that Glennon and Ellington are overrated, and Barner, Stills, Milliner underrated. Hyde and Rambo seem properly rated.

bucfan12 09-02-2012 03:35 PM

Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.

Babylon 09-04-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12 (Post 3104734)
Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.

I like Murray. Any QB under 6-2 nowadays get the Drew Brees tag (Russell Wilson) but Aaron should get some attention.

I cant believe i'm saying anything nice about an Oregon Duck but Kiko Alonso should get some serious notice if he can keep his nose clean.

norcalgsr 09-04-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BrabbitMcRabbit (Post 3104500)
Yuck. Barner is nothing special at all:

Underrated prospects:

QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
RB Branden Oliver, Buffalo
RB Stepfan Taylor, Stanford
WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
WR Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma

Saunders isn't eligible to play this year.

ArkyRamsFan 09-04-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucfan12 (Post 3104734)
Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.

Matt Barkley is only about 6'1" and he has been a consensus first rounder for several years now; so I don't see how this is an issue with Murray.

I do agree with your comments on Murray, though....

bucfan12 09-05-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 3105880)
I like Murray. Any QB under 6-2 nowadays get the Drew Brees tag (Russell Wilson) but Aaron should get some attention.

I cant believe i'm saying anything nice about an Oregon Duck but Kiko Alonso should get some serious notice if he can keep his nose clean.

I'm not just making the Murray to Brees comparison due to size. I just watch the style of play the instincts and the deep ball accuracy. They look extremely similar ad that's probably the best comparison.

rawdawg 09-05-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12 (Post 3106409)
I'm not just making the Murray to Brees comparison due to size. I just watch the style of play the instincts and the deep ball accuracy. They look extremely similar ad that's probably the best comparison.

This is not meant to slight Murray at all, but he reminds me a lot of Rex Grossman coming out in 2003. Very similar size and body type. Similar arm strength. Knowing what I know now about Grossman (I'm a Bears fan FWIW), I'd say Murray is more accurate, but when Grossman was in his JR year in college, he was plenty accurate himself. Rex's career can be summed up by making dumb decisions, but he's actually a very intelligent guy. Murray seems to be more mobile and an all around better athlete. That and some consistent decision making ability, will make him a better pro than Grossman, but that's what I see out of Murray. I think the Brees comparisons are a little lofty. But if a team drafts a guy that meets (or exceeds with more mobility) the expectations that Bears fans reasonably had for Grossman 8 years ago, they are getting a pretty good QB.

shylo3716 09-08-2012 04:14 PM

DeAndre Hopkins 6 rec 105 yds 3 TDs today vs Ball State

bored of education 09-09-2012 06:18 PM

Qb - Casey Pachall

jared3 09-09-2012 08:45 PM

DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson, EJ Gaines, Mizzou

Matthew Jones 09-15-2012 01:02 AM

Here are my some of the most underrated prospects by position and where I have them ranked currently:

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia* (1)

RB Eddie Lacey, Alabama* (2-3)

WR Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas (2-3)

WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma* (3)

OL Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin (1)

DE Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas* (1)

LB Sean Porter, Texas A&M (2)

FS Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma (2-3)

jth1331 09-15-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 3116463)
Here are my some of the most underrated prospects by position and where I have them ranked currently:

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia* (1)

RB Eddie Lacey, Alabama* (2-3)

WR Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas (2-3)

WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma* (3)

OL Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin (1)

DE Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas* (1)

LB Sean Porter, Texas A&M (2)

FS Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma (2-3)

Are you saying Murray is your #1 QB?

Also, I do think people are sleeping on Stills, especially if he's the freakin 18th ranked WR on cbssports.

Matthew Jones 09-15-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jth1331 (Post 3117167)
Are you saying Murray is your #1 QB?

Also, I do think people are sleeping on Stills, especially if he's the freakin 18th ranked WR on cbssports.

I probably should have explained that the numbers in parenthesis are the round in which I have them graded currently.

TACKLE 09-16-2012 11:11 AM

Demontre Moore.

bored of education 09-16-2012 11:39 AM

Conner Vernon - WR - Duke - 3 games - 21 receptions - 280 yards - 1 TD

703SKINS202 09-16-2012 11:45 AM

Stedman Bailey - WR- WVU - 2 games - 22 receptions - 277 yards - 5 TD's


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