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nofalcons10 10-04-2012 08:32 AM

Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA: The Next Von Miller?
 
A guy who looks to possess von miller potential in the 3-4. After doing a little research yesterday i stumbled across perhaps the draft's biggest super sleeper pass rusher at this point:


Anthony Barr, Linebacker UCLA

6-4 235lbs.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGIhQ...layer_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O1-X...layer_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7-C4...layer_embedded




Barr has made a successful transition to 3-4 olb this year and has had at least 1 sack in every game (5 straight).


He has looked like a one man wrecking crew and has thus far been a terror off the edge.

OSUGiants17 10-04-2012 09:02 AM

Kid looks like he has a non-stop motor and some serious potential, but these are highlight tapes, they're meant to make everyone look like a superstar. Show me some full game film of him and then I can judge him fairly

FUNBUNCHER 10-04-2012 09:30 AM

Great potential, but it's too early to compare him to Von Miller, if at all.

villagewarrior 10-04-2012 09:41 AM

I've seen a couple UCLA games this year. Barr looks big and athletic and seems to have a knack for getting to the football. He's only played linebacker since the spring so it'll be scary to see how good he can be when he gets some experience under his belt.

TACKLE 10-04-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OSUGiants17 (Post 3139292)
Kid looks like he has a non-stop motor and some serious potential, but these are highlight tapes, they're meant to make everyone look like a superstar. Show me some full game film of him and then I can judge him fairly

I know they're just highlight plays but I'm not going to act like I wasn't impressed. His athleticism really jumps out at you.

MassNole 10-04-2012 12:28 PM

Coming out of HS he was a tremendous athlete, FSU recruited him at the H-Back position played jointly by Lonnie Pryor and Nick O'Leary. IIRC most other schools saw him more of a TE and H-Back as well. Not surprised to see him as a legit NFL prospect right now.

Under the old UCLA staff wasn't be a FB?

BRAVEHEART 10-04-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MassNole (Post 3139394)
Coming out of HS he was a tremendous athlete, FSU recruited him at the H-Back position played jointly by Lonnie Pryor and Nick O'Leary. IIRC most other schools saw him more of a TE and H-Back as well. Not surprised to see him as a legit NFL prospect right now.

Under the old UCLA staff wasn't be a FB?

Yeah, but he wanted to play on offense. Some schools wanted him at LB/DE. Pete Carroll wanted him at LB, and I think ND did too.

MassNole 10-04-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAVEHEART (Post 3139491)
Yeah, but he wanted to play on offense. Some schools wanted him at LB/DE. Pete Carroll wanted him at LB, and I think ND did too.

I thought it was TE at Notre Dame. He just seemed like the type of kid who would have found his way to the NFL at a number of positions'

BRAVEHEART 10-04-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MassNole (Post 3139494)
I thought it was TE at Notre Dame. He just seemed like the type of kid who would have found his way to the NFL at a number of positions'

Probably was. The kid was dead set on playing on offense. I know USC wasn't the only program that preferred him at D.

descendency 10-04-2012 03:27 PM

I might have to see a few UCLA games. Those highlights are pretty good, but that's all they are (just highlights and not necessarily indicative of the rest of his film).

MassNole 10-04-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 3139626)
I might have to see a few UCLA games. Those highlights are pretty good, but that's all they are (just highlights and not necessarily indicative of the rest of his film).

Literally anyone can look good on highlights, because well as you said, they are simply the highlights.

Duffman57 10-05-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MassNole (Post 3139634)
Literally anyone can look good on highlights, because well as you said, they are simply the highlights.

Yeah, but guys like this, their highlights can really show a LOT. Pass rushing has a lot to do with seeing how good the burst off the edge is, how his speed is and how his motor is. His handwork is actually great for someone who's just started to play LB. His burst is outstanding, with really good closing speed, and he makes a lot of plays just do to hustle down field, or in the backfield either way. He'll have to add bulk, and continue to develop, as well as blow up the combine (as he seems like he should), he very well could play his way into 1st round contention.

He's one of those guys who's upside is what he's going to be drafted for, and you can evaluate his upside on these videos.

y.f.s. 10-05-2012 03:25 AM

Welp, y'all just piqued my interest. I'll cut a game of him.

Should we create a video requests thread, by the way?

CashmoneyDrew 10-05-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by y.f.s. (Post 3140150)
Welp, y'all just piqued my interest. I'll cut a game of him.

Should we create a video requests thread, by the way?

That would be stupendous.

MassNole 10-05-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffman57 (Post 3140086)
Yeah, but guys like this, their highlights can really show a LOT. Pass rushing has a lot to do with seeing how good the burst off the edge is, how his speed is and how his motor is. His handwork is actually great for someone who's just started to play LB. His burst is outstanding, with really good closing speed, and he makes a lot of plays just do to hustle down field, or in the backfield either way. He'll have to add bulk, and continue to develop, as well as blow up the combine (as he seems like he should), he very well could play his way into 1st round contention.

He's one of those guys who's upside is what he's going to be drafted for, and you can evaluate his upside on these videos.

:facepalm:


No player can ever be evaluated just on his highlights. They don't show us how many plays he takes off, how he reacts when the ball goes to the other side of the field, or how he is contained when he doesn't make plays. Logic like this is why you generally see the same teams drafting near the top of the draft every single year.

tjsunstein 10-05-2012 04:25 PM

Bruce Irvin, standing up.

FUNBUNCHER 10-05-2012 04:47 PM

Vernon Gholston had a helluva highlight tape from OSU.

Don Vito 10-05-2012 04:48 PM

Jevon Kearse-ish

Saints-Tigers 10-05-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 3140454)
Vernon Gholston had a helluva highlight tape from OSU.

But Vernon Gholston looked like a great player regardless, it wasn't like it was just highlights.

FUNBUNCHER 10-05-2012 06:25 PM

Mm, Vernon Gholston had a rep for taking plays off at Ohio State. Definitely not a high motor guy. Played hard when he felt like it.
Gholston had 14 sacks his junior year at OSU, but he should have had 25.

y.f.s. 10-05-2012 06:51 PM

The Senior OLB, Datone Jones, is starting to get a lot of love from NFL people too, apparently.

I'll cut the video vs Oregon St tonight.

Duffman57 10-05-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MassNole (Post 3140382)
:facepalm:


No player can ever be evaluated just on his highlights. They don't show us how many plays he takes off, how he reacts when the ball goes to the other side of the field, or how he is contained when he doesn't make plays. Logic like this is why you generally see the same teams drafting near the top of the draft every single year.

Uhhhhh.....where did you hear any of that in my post. Did i every say he will only be evaluated off highlights? HELL NO.

I just said his highlight tapes can tell us a lot because he's a very upside dominant player, rather than a finished product right now, and his bigtime upside will be what get him drafted, and those flashes show us what his upside is. You dont see how low his downside is in the videos, which will also go a long way in determining where he gets drafted. Those two together, plus seeing exactly what kind of refinement he needs will completely determine his draft stock IMO.

y.f.s. 10-06-2012 03:24 PM

Here you go.


jth1331 10-11-2012 04:06 PM

Comparing him to Von Miller is assinine IMO, just like people comparing Von to Lawrence Taylor.

I'll be honest, I don't see anybody coming along that will match Von's quickness(not just speed, but quickness) off the snap to get by the blocker and to the QB/RB. Then come around and completely power rush his way, pancake the blocker, and get the QB/RB. He has completely surpassed what I thought he was going to be.

SeahawkNMD 10-12-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein (Post 3140446)
Bruce Irvin, standing up.

This is exactly what I thought watching that cut up vs Oregon St. He's basically playing the position Irvin is now in Seattle lining up wide and rushing the majority of the time. If he can develop something to go along with the speed rush it will go a long way to improving his draft stock. While he can watch how much success Bruce Irvin has and see if he wants to come in with a limited role early and develop in the NFL if he comes out as a JR.


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