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Shane P. Hallam 12-30-2012 06:34 PM

2013 NFL Draft Order
 
1) Kansas City Chiefs
2) Jacksonville Jaguars
3) Oakland Raiders
4) Philadelphia Eagles
5) Detroit Lions
6) Cleveland Browns
7) Arizona Cardinals
8) Buffalo Bills
9) New York Jets
10) Tennessee Titans
11) San Diego Chargers
12) Miami Dolphins
13) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
14) Carolina Panthers
15) New Orleans Saints
16) St. Louis Rams
17) Pittsburgh Steelers
18) Dallas Cowboys
19) New York Giants
20) Chicago Bears
21) Cincinnati Bengals
22) Washington Redskins
23) Minnesota Vikings
24) Indianapolis Colts
25) Seattle Seahawks
26) Green Bay Packers
27) Houston Texans
28) Denver Broncos


Robcards 12-30-2012 06:51 PM

Umm, how are you getting Titans 10th? I have their opponent record at 0.465 and bills 0.480 and jets 0.512... Check your math. Also Pittsburgh is locked in at 17th as their opponents record is 0.465, not even close to the Cowboys.

Shane P. Hallam 12-30-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3226978)
Umm, how are you getting Titans 10th? I have their opponent record at 0.465 and bills 0.480 and jets 0.512... Check your math. Also Pittsburgh is locked in at 16th as their opponents record is 0.465, not even close to the Cowboys.

Titans at .512 right now. Jets went down. Order is correct

Robcards 12-30-2012 06:56 PM

AH it was my spreadsheet messed up, don't know how I missed it before just now but I had them playing themselves twice instead of Houston. My mistake, yeah I see 0.512 now too, so coinflip with Jets right. Still have Steelers not even close to Cowboys though so that's a lock at 17, and loser of tonights game will be 18 as Redskins would have a lower opponent record than the Bears and Giants.

PS- I expanded it out to more decimal places and Jets are 0.5118 and Titans are 0.5117, the 2 ties on the Jets opponent's win-loss make it a little hairy, but it looks as though the Titans will be picking before the Jets.

Jets = 130-124-2 = 0.511811
Titans = 131-125 = 0.511718

Could use a confirmation on that but I'm pretty sure that would mean no coin flip.

bengalbuck 12-30-2012 06:59 PM

The Carson Palmer trade ended up netting the Bengals #17 and #35, one of the best trades of the past few years.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bengalbuck (Post 3227013)
The Carson Palmer trade ended up netting the Bengals #17 and #35, one of the best trades of the past few years.

It won't be a 35 it will be a 37 as the teams with the same record rotate every round (it will be PHI 3rd DET 4th OAK 5th in the 2nd round).

NIN1984 12-30-2012 07:10 PM

I really hope Raiders can trade that #3 pick. Maybe Arizona if they are interested in Luke Joeckel or Buffalo who could be looking at any of the QBs. Reggie McKenzie needs to pickup as many picks as he can.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NIN1984 (Post 3227050)
I really hope Raiders can trade that #3 pick. Maybe Arizonaif they are interested in Luke Joeckel or Buffalo who could be looking at any of the QBs. Reggie McKenzie needs to pickup as many picks as he can.

Really hope the Jets don't trade up to it! But with Tannenbaum likely out of the decision room for that it would be unlikely (I hope) =)

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3226989)
Titans at .512 right now. Jets went down. Order is correct

What records do you have? I have 130-124-2 for the Jets and 131-125 for the Titans, which would mean Titans picking before the Jets.

vidae 12-30-2012 07:14 PM

This is the first time (since the merger) the Chiefs have ever had the first overall pick. Wow, we were bad.

edit: This was the 9th loss by 15 points or more this year for KC. No one has done that since the 81 Colts. Yay.

Splat 12-30-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3226989)
Titans at .512 right now. Jets went down. Order is correct


Robcards 12-30-2012 07:19 PM

Edited for retardation. Chicago 10-6 not 9-7, derp a derp lol

YotoJets007 12-30-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3226999)
AH it was my spreadsheet messed up, don't know how I missed it before just now but I had them playing themselves twice instead of Houston. My mistake, yeah I see 0.512 now too, so coinflip with Jets right. Still have Steelers not even close to Cowboys though so that's a lock at 17, and loser of tonights game will be 18 as Redskins would have a lower opponent record than the Bears and Giants.

PS- I expanded it out to more decimal places and Jets are 0.5118 and Titans are 0.5117, the 2 ties on the Jets opponent's win-loss make it a little hairy, but it looks as though the Titans will be picking before the Jets.

Jets = 130-124-2 = 0.511811
Titans = 131-125 = 0.511718

Could use a confirmation on that but I'm pretty sure that would mean no coin flip.


tiebreaking procedure applies first.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YotoJets007 (Post 3227083)
tiebreaking procedure applies first.

What do you mean?

YotoJets007 12-30-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3227088)
What do you mean?



Same record and SOS in the same division or conference, we go through tie-breaking procedure before the coin flip. Titans beat us so Jets are sitting ahead of Titans.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by YotoJets007 (Post 3227090)
Same record and SOS in the same division or conference, we go through tie-breaking procedure before the coin flip. Titans beat us so Jets are sitting ahead of Titans.

It's not the same SOS though. Jets are 130-124-2 titans are 131-125, jets marginally have a stronger SOS

YotoJets007 12-30-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3227114)
It's not the same SOS though. Jets are 130-124-2 titans are 131-125, jets marginally have a stronger SOS

I know. Although I am not a professional on that part, NFL is going by SOS, the percentage of W-L-T, and that's it.


Unless .0001 is a factor for rare situation like that, amateurs have Jets ahead of Titans.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by YotoJets007 (Post 3227135)
I know. Although I am not a professional on that part, NFL is going by SOS, the percentage of W-L-T, and that's it.

Right, and if its just percentage of wins and losses the jets are 0.0001 stronger, if the draws count as half a win (which I doubt is the case) then they have the same SOS

YotoJets007 12-30-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3227138)
Right, and if its just percentage of wins and losses the jets are 0.0001 stronger, if the draws count as half a win (which I doubt is the case) then they have the same SOS


I just edited above. Like you say. Tomorrow will be the day we find out for sure.

Robcards 12-30-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YotoJets007 (Post 3227146)
I just edited above. Like you say. Tomorrow will be the day we find out for sure.

I just saw one draft order that said jets SOS is 129-125-2 which I've double and triple checked is wrong, not sure how they have 1 less win but it's 130-124-2

YotoJets007 12-30-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3227155)
I just saw one draft order that said jets SOS is 129-125-2 which I've double and triple checked is wrong, not sure how they have 1 less win but it's 130-124-2


oh I wish I could help you. I deleted mine because I could not finish 7 round mock. lol.

farfromforgotten 12-30-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidae (Post 3227064)
This is the first time (since the merger) the Chiefs have ever had the first overall pick. Wow, we were bad.

edit: This was the 9th loss by 15 points or more this year for KC. No one has done that since the 81 Colts. Yay.

If you're gonna be bad, might as well be historically bad. Right?

Shane P. Hallam 12-30-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3227155)
I just saw one draft order that said jets SOS is 129-125-2 which I've double and triple checked is wrong, not sure how they have 1 less win but it's 130-124-2

NFL has already announced the Top Ten, it is what I have in the first post.

Robcards 12-30-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3227250)
NFL has already announced the Top Ten, it is what I have in the first post.

Really? What did it say for Jets SOS? I mean I'm all for picking 9th it just doesn't make sense mathematically

Robcards 12-30-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3227250)
NFL has already announced the Top Ten, it is what I have in the first post.

Ok so it rounds up to 0.512 and 2nd tiebreaker is conference record and jets are 4-8 and titans are 5-7, sweet deal for us went in today thinking we'd be picking 11th but Carolina and Tampa win and now this


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