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Pass Catcher Rankings (Top 15 WRs/TEs)
Please continue with the discussion, criticism, and posting of other rankings now with the receivers and tight ends. Previous Rankings Corners & Safeties (1/29): http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=55445 Wide Receivers 1. DeAndre Hopkins :: CLEMSON 2. Tavon Austin : WEST VIRGINIA 3. Keenan Allen :: CALIFORNIA 4. Justin Hunter :: TENNESSEE 5. Cordarrelle Patterson :: TENNESSEE 6. Robert Woods :: USC 7. Marquise Goodwin :: TEXAS 8. Markus Wheaton :: OREGON STATE 9. Quinton Patton :: LOUISIANA TECH 10. Da’Rick Rogers :: TENNESSEE TECH 11. Stedman Bailey :: WEST VIRGINIA 12. Terrance Williams : BAYLOR 13. Chris Harper :: KANSAS STATE 14. Cobi Hamilton : ARKANSAS 15. Ryan Swope :: TEXAS A&M Analysis: DeAndre Hopkins impresses me more than any other receiver with his terrific route running, very good speed, and strong hands. Justin Hunter's ranking is based in large part on projecting him to continue to improve following his knee injury and becoming the player he flashed prior to the injury, and that's a normal expectation for all athletes not named Adrian Peterson. Cordarrelle Patterson has as much upside as any receiver in the class, but right now I see more Devin Hester to his game than a Pro Bowl caliber player in the future. Goodwin and Wheaton are intriguing second round options. Terrance Williams had a tremendous season, but I don't see a well rounded game with him, simply a vertical threat in the mold of Devery Henderson. Ryan Swope had an underwhelming senior season, but it's hard to deny what he was able to do with a legitimate pocket passer during an outstanding junior season. Overall, another deep position in this draft and plenty of guys who will be drafted with the expectation to contribute right away. Tight Ends 1. Zach Ertz :: STANFORD 2. Gavin Escobar :: SAN DIEGO STATE 3. Travis Kelce :: CINCINNATI 4. Tyler Eifert :: NOTRE DAME 5. Vance McDonald :: RICE 6. Jordan Reed :: FLORIDA 7. Dion Sims :: MICHIGAN STATE 8. Michael Williams :: ALABAMA 9. Joseph Fauria :: UCLA 10. Ryan Otten :: SAN JOSE STATE 11. Levine Toilolo :: STANFORD 12. Philip Lutzenkirchen :: AUBURN 13. Nick Kasa :: COLORADO 14. Zach Sudfeld :: NEVADA 15. Jake Stoneburner :: OHIO STATE Analysis: After Senior Bowl week the tight end class is really all about the top 5 guys at the position. Ertz is a huge, athletic target and will continue in the explosion of tight ends being a dynamic part of the offense in the NFL. Gavin Escobar, Travis Kelce, Tyler Eifert, and Vance McDonald can have a very similar scouting report written of themselves as well, and for my rankings it comes down to players having shown the ability to be effective in game with those skills. Questions might come up with Tyler Eifert, and I am not denying his talent, but every time I watched Notre Dame this year I always waited for him to wow me and I rarely ever saw that. Travis Kelce is the best overall blocker of the top bunch so that makes him slightly more versatile than the other four. Michael Williams isn't the world's greatest pass catcher, but he's an asset for the running game and he knows how to work in the red zone. Overall, more top end talent than we usually see from the tight end position and at least four of the top five will be selected in the first two rounds. |
We're in agreement a lot here. Love your top 3, those would be my top 3. Love that your not insanely high on Da'rick Rogers like some are.
Also agreed, Ertz is the number one tight end in this class. |
Always did, still do love that headcase Da'Rick Rogers. Someone is going to get a huge steal.
Also think Terrance Williams is a little too low. |
Starting to delve into the receivers a bit more. Like actually watching them play :)
Watching a single highlight reel of Patterson, I got almost the same exact impression. When he was doing really good things, they all basically looked like punt returns. On the other hand, more impressed with my limited tape exposure to Goodwin. Speed is obvious, his agility numbers will be nice to see. One thing I noticed deals with my favorite analogy. Cunningham to Moss on deep balls. Everyone seemed criminally underthrown, which came to be a jump ball for moss, a strength just a bit. Saw a lot of Goodwin tracking underthrown bombs. |
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I've never posted rankings on this board before, but what the heck. WR is the one position I think I'm pretty solid in my rankings right now...at least until the combine.
I have: 1. Justin Hunter :: TENNESSEE 2. Keenan Allen :: CALIFORNIA 3. DeAndre Hopkins :: CLEMSON 4. Cordarrelle Patterson :: TENNESSEE 5. Tavon Austin : WEST VIRGINIA 6. Robert Woods :: USC 7. Markus Wheaton :: OREGON STATE 8. Terrance Williams : BAYLOR 9. Quinton Patton :: LOUISIANA TECH 10. Da’Rick Rogers :: TENNESSEE TECH 11. Marquise Goodwin :: TEXAS 12. Cobi Hamilton : ARKANSAS 13. Kenny Stills :: OKLAHOMA 14. Stedman Bailey :: WEST VIRGINIA 15. Aaron Dobson :: MARSHALL Mostly projection with Hunter. But this is a guy who averaged over 22 ypc before he got hurt. Was slow to come back this year, but I'm excited about the fact that he put up 6 plays over 30 yards in his last 6 games, after just 1 such play in his first 6 games of the year. I think after Patterson, he has the 2nd most potential on this list, and I think he's more likely to reach his potential than Patterson. The first 5 are all 1st round talents to me. Not big on Woods or Williams, but they don't deserve to be ranked any lower than they are based on their bodies of work. |
If Justin Hunter had not gotten hurt we'd probably be looking at a receiver similar to AJ Green and an undisputed first round pick. Both Tennessee receivers come with some risk, and Hunter gets the nod from me because we've seen how good he can be as a receiver and it's all about his knee and head giving him the comfort and confidence to be the guy we saw two years ago.
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Im on the Tavarres King bandwagon. Where does he rank after the top 15?
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Terrance Williams is Torrey Smith 2.0
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This draft is crazy deep at wide receiver. There's a dozen guys I could see making the Pro Bowl at some point in their careers.
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The more I watch Patterson the more I like him, with that size and having legit return skills, that is something special, and he is so raw. And Woods will be undervalued but he is so smooth and got very overshadowed this year by Lee's amazing season. This is how I have them ranked at WR and TE, over the 15 limit though.
WR Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee JR Justin Hunter Tennessee JR Keenan Allen Cal JR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson JR Robert Woods USC JR Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech JR Tavon Austin West Virginia Terrance Williams Baylor Ace Sanders South Carolina JR Cobi Hamilton Arkansas Kenny Stills Oklahoma JR Ryan Swope Texas A&M Tavarres King Georgia Stedman Bailey West Virginia JR Marquise Goodwin Texas Aaron Dobson Marshall Mark Harrison Rutgers Chris Harper Kansas State Rodney Smith Florida State Markus Wheaton Oregon State Marcus Rucker Memphis Quinton Patton La Tech JD Woods West Virginia Marcus Davis Virginia Tech TJ Moe Missouri Emory Blake Auburn Jamal-Rashad Patterson Stanford Martel Moore Northern Illinois Tracy Lampley Southern Miss Marqueis Gray Minnesota Darius Johnson SMU Conner Vernon Duke Dan Buckner Arizona Tobais Palmer NC State Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M Russell Shepard LSU Javone Lawson Lousiana Lafayette Jheraine Boyd UNC Lance Ray East Carolina Mike Shanahan Pitt Chad Bumphis Miss State Brandon Wimberly Nevada Travante Stallworth Auburn TE Tyler Eifert Notre Dame JR Zach Ertz Stanford JR Joseph Fauria UCLA Chris Gragg Arkansas Dion Sims Michigan State Michael Williams Alabama Jordan Reed Florida Brandon Ford Clemson Levine Toilolo Stanford JR Matt Furstenburg Maryland Jake Stoneburner Ohio State Vance McDonald Rice Mychal Rivera Tennessee Colter Phillips Virginia Philip Lutzenkirchen Auburn Jake Doyle Western Kentucky Ben Cotton Nebraska Ferbia Allen Ole Miss Blake Hammond Western Michigan Kendrick Moeai Utah DC Jefferson Rutgers Kyler Reed Nebraska Andrew Power North Texas Blake Ayles Miami FL TS Quote:
But now a days with the Pro bowl alternate, making a Pro Bowl is not what is used to me, hell 1/6th the roster did not play because they were in the Super Bowl |
Basically I mean receivers who can go over a thousand yards, because that's about as much of a criteria for "making the pro bowl" as you'll find anymore. Just depends if they do it on a popular team.
Cordarrelle Patterson could be something special Keenan Allen is going to look a lot different with an NFL quarterback throwing him the ball Justin Hunter and DeAndre Hopkins both look like they can potentially be no. 1 receivers Da'Rick Rogers is your classic character-concern talent Terrence Williams is your classic physical specimen with the stat sheet to back it up Robert Woods and Marcus Wheaton are silky smooth and know how to get open Stedman Bailey alternates between dropping balls and dropping jaws Tavon Austin mostly just drops jaws with the best open-field talent in this class etc. It's a deep class, and there is a wide variety of players. |
That's the thing with Terrance Williams though, he has nice height and it seems like he should be a lot stronger than what he really is. Dude is kinda weak.
I like his potential but I wouldn't expect a lot from him in his rookie campaign. I think my Rankings would be... 1. Keenan Allen 2. Tavon Austin 3. DeAndre Hopkins 4. Justin Hunter 5. Cordarrelle Patterson 6. Markus Wheaton 7. Terrance Williams 8. Robert Woods 9. Quinton Patton 10. Stedman Bailey |
Travis Kelce should be #2 IMO, but I won't fault you because 3rd is a lot higher than most have him.
Ozzy, I sure has hell hope you just forgot about Travis Kelce bc now having him in the Top 24 is a joke. |
I find it tough to rank the WRs. Making the projection for players and deciding whether to go off upside or what you see consistently is the hard part.
Corrdarelle Patterson is electric with the ball in his hands but he is a body catcher who needs serious development as a route runner. Justin Hunter looks like a top 5 WR in the NFL at times then loses his concentration and lets the ball hit him in the face. DeAndre Hopkins is a crisp route runner with good hands but doesn't have the size or speed to be a mismatch. Tavon Austin is dynamic from the slot but can he win consistently against man coverage? Robert Woods is a smooth route runner with nice hands but is he anything more than a complimentary weapon in the NFL? Terrence Williams can get deep but can he beat press coverage and can he work underneath? If I had to rank the WRs now it would probably be 1. Kennan Allen 2. DeAndre Hopkins 3. Corrdarrelle Patterson 4. Tavon Austin 5. Robert Woods 6. Justin Hunter 6. Marcus Wheaton 7. Steadman Bailey 8. Quinton Patten 9. Da'Rick Rogers 10. Marquise Goodwin |
Not sure where I would rank him, but I'm a little surprised Marquess Wilson's name hasn't even been ranked yet on any list
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