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Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 11:36 AM

Shane's Final Positional Rankings + Top 100!
 
Top 100:
Disclaimer: This Top 100 is me predicting who the first 100 players off the board will be. I then ranked those players according to MY personal ranking.

1. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
2. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
3. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
4. Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
5. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
6. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
7. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
8. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
9. Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
10. Ezekial Ansah, DE, BYU
11. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
12. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
13. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
14. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
15. Sylvester Williams DT, North Carolina
16. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
17. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
18. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
19. Sharrif Floyd DT, Florida
20. DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
21. Cornelius “Tank” Carradine, DE, Florida State
22. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
23. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
24. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
25. Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
26. Manti Te’o ILB, Notre Dame
27. Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
28. Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State
29. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
30. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
31. Eric Reid, S, LSU
32. Eddie Lacy RB, Alabama
33. Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU
34. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
35. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
36. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
37. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
38. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
39. Matt Elam, S, Florida
40. Justin Pugh, C, Syracuse
41. Giovanni Bernard, RB, North Carolina
42. Robert Woods, WR, USC
43. David Amerson, CB, NC State
44. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
45. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
46. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
47. Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
48. Zaviar Gooden, ILB, Missouri
49. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
50. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Miss
51. Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn
52. Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
53. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
54. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
55. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
56. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
57. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
58. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
59. Sio Moore, OLB, UConn
60. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn
61. Kyle Long, OG, Oregon
62. Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia
63. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
64. Darius Slay CB, Mississippi State
65. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
66. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
67. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
68. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
69. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
70. DJ Swearinger, S, South Carolina
71. Ryan Nassb, QB, Syracuse
72. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
73. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
74. Baccari Rambo, S, Georgia
75. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine-Bluff
76. David Abkhtiari, OT, Colorado
77. Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
78. Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
79. DJ Hayden, CB, Houston
80. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
81. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
82. Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
83. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
84. BW Webb, CB, William & Mary
85. Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin
86. Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
87. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
88. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
89. Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
90. Brian Winters, OG, Kent State
91. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern
92. Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
93. Earl Wolff, S, NC State
94. Shamarko Thomas, S, Syracuse
95. Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State
96. Phllip Thomas, S, Fresno State
97. Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
98. JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
99. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
100. Matt Scott, QB, Arizona



QB:

1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. EJ Manuel, Florida State
3. Matt Barkley, USC
4. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas
5. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
6. Tyler Bray, Tennessee
7. Mike Glennon, NC State
8. Zac Dysert, Miami (OH)
9. Landry Jones, Oklahoma
10. Matt Scott, Arizona
11. Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech
12. Ryan Griffin, Tulane
13. Sean Renfree, Duke
14. Brad Sorensen, Southern Utah
15. Ryan Aplin, Aransas State
16. Collin Klein, Kansas State
17. Jordan Rodgers, Vanderbilt
18. Alex Carder, Western Michigan
19. Jeff Tuel, Washington State
20. Dayne Crist, Kansas


RB:

1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Giovanni Bernard, North Carolina
3. Mike Gillislee, Florida
4. Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina
6. Christine Michael, Texas A&M
7. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
8. Le’Veon Bell, Michigan State
9. Joseph Randle, Oklahoma State
10. Andre Ellington, Clemson
11. Stepfan Taylor, Stanford
12. Knile Davis, Arkansas
13. Jawan Jamison, Rutgers
14. Ray Graham, Pittsburgh
15. Kenjon Barner, Oregon
16. Spencer Ware, LSU
17. Cierre Wood, Notre Dame
18. Miguel Maysonet, Stony Brook
19. Michael Hill, Missouri Western
20. Latavius Murray, UCF
21. Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt
22. Rex Burkhead, Nebraska
23. Chris Thompson, Florida State
24. Theo Riddick, Notre Dame
25. Michael Ford, LSU
26. Kerwynn Williams, Utah State
27. Dennis Johnson, Arkansas
28. Stefphon Jefferson, Nevada
29. George Winn, Cincinnati
30. Montel Harris, Temple
31. Ronnie Wingo, Arkansas
32. DJ Harper, Boise State
33. Robbie Rouse, Fresno State
34. Onterio McCaleb,, Auburn


FB:

1. Kyle Juzczyk, Harvard
2. Lonnie Pryor, Florida State
3. Zach Line, SMU
4. Tommy Bohanon, Wake Forest
5. Taimi Tutogi, Arizona

WR:

1. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemon
2. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
3. Justin Hunter, Tennessee
4. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
5. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State
6. Keenan Allen, California
7. Robert Woods, USC
8. Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
9. Quinton Patton, Lousiaina Tech
10. Aaron Dobson, Marshall
11. Terrance Williams, Baylor
12. Da’Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech
13. Chris Harper, Kansas State
14. Kenny Stills, Oklahoma
15. Aaron Mellette, Elon
16. Ryan Swope, Texas A&M
17. Marquise Goodwin, Texas
18. Tavarres King, Georgia
19. Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas
20. Marquess Wilson, Washington State
21. Denard Robinson, Michigan
22. Ace Sanders, South Carolina
23. Corey Fuller, Virginia Tech
24. Josh Boyce, TCU
25. Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech
26. Conner Vernon, Duke
27. Mark Harrison, Rutgers
28. Jasper Collins, Mount Union
29. Brandon Kaufman, Eastern Washington
30. Tyrone Goard, Eastern Kentucky
31. Rodney Smith, Florida State
32. Charles Johnson, Grand Valley State
33. TJ Moe, Missouri
34. Alan Bonner, Jacksonville State
35. Alec Lemon, Syracuse
36. Zach Rogers, Tennessee
37. Eric Rogers, Cal Lutheran
38. Jason Thompson, New Haven
39. Ryan Spadola, Lehigh
40. Sam McGuffie, Rice

TE:

1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
3. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
4. Zach Ertz, Stanford
5. Vance McDonald, Rice
6. Jordan Reed, Florida
7. Nick Kasa, Colorado
8. Ryan Otten, San Jose State
9. Dion Sims, Michigan State
10. Chris Gragg, Arkansas
11. Mychal Rivera, Tennessee
12. Joseph Fauria, UCLA
13. Jae Stoneburner, Ohio State
14. Levin Toilolo, Stanford
15. Michael Williams, Alabama
16. Lucas Reed, New Mexico
17. Zach Sudfield, Nevada
18. Phillip Lutzenkirchen, Auburn
19. Ryan Griffin, UConn
20. Chris Pantale, Boston College
21. Matt Furstenburg, Maryland
22. Justice Cunningham, South Carolina
23. Jack Doyle, Western Kentucky

OT:

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. DJ Fluker, Alabama
5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse
6. Dallas Thomas, Tennessee
7. Menelik Watson, Florida
8. Terron Armstead, Arkansas Pine-Bluff
9. David Bakhtiari, Colorado
10. Jordan Mills, Louisiana-Tech
11. Chris Faulk, LSU
12. Reid Fragel, Ohio State
13. Brennan Williams, North Carolina
14. Xavier Nixon, Florida
15. Nic Becton, Virginia Tech
16. Oday Aboushi, Virginia
17. Rick Wagner, Wisconsin
18. Braden Brown, BYU
19. Vinston Painter, Virginia Tech
20. Roger Gaines, Tennessee State
21. Luke Marquardt, Azusa Pacific
22. Ryan Schrader, Valdosta State
23. Elvis Fisher, Missouri
24. John Wetzel, Boston College
25. Emmett Cleary, Boston College
26. Manase Foketi, West Texas A&M


OG:

1. Jonathan Cooper, UNC
2. Chance Warmack, Alabama
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State
6. David Quessenberry, San Jose State
7. Earl Watford, James Madison
8. Alvin Bailey, Aransas
9. JC Tretter, Cornell
10. Hugh Thornton, Illinois
11. Ryan Jensen, Colorado State-Pueblo
12. Garrett Gilkey, Chadron State
13. Travis Bond, North Carolina
14. Jeff Baca, UCLA
15. Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia Tech
16. Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
17. Chris Jacobsen, Pittsburgh
18. Eric Herman, Ohio

C:

1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, California
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame
5. Khaled Holmes, USC
6. Graham Pocic, Illinois
7. Joe Madson, West Virginia
8. Dalton Freeman, Clemson
9. Mario Benavides, Louisville
10. Eric Kush, Cal (PA)
11. PJ Lonergan, LSU
12. Matt Staniewitch, Penn State
13. Lamar Mady, Youngstown State
14. TJ Johnson, South Carolina
15. James Ferentz, Iowa


DE/Pass Rusher:

1. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
2. Dion Jordan, Oregon
3. Ziggy Ansah, BYU
4. Tank Carradine, FSU
5. Bjoern Werner, FSU
6. Datone Jones, UCLA
7. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
8. Corey Lemonier, Auburn
9. Quanterus Smith, Western Kentucky
10. Cornelius Washington, Georgia
11. Margus Hunt, SMU
12. Alex Okafor, Texas
13. Sam Montgomery, LSU
14. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
15. William Gholston, Michigan State
16. Lavar Edwards, LSU
17. Malliciah Goodman, Clemson
18. Devin Taylor, South Carolina
19. Joe Kruger, Utah
20. David Bass, Missouri Western
21. Walter Stewart, Cincinnati
22. Stanly Maponga, TCU
23. Tourek Williams, FIU
24. Mike Catapano, Princeton
25. Kapron Lewis-Moore, Notre Dame
26. Wes Horton, USC
27. Darrington Sentimore, Tennessee

DT:

1. Star Lotulelei, Utah
2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
3. Sylvester Williams, UNC
4. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State
6. Kawann Short, Purdue
7. Jesse Williams, Alabama
8. Montori Hughes, Tennessee
9. John Jenkins, Georgia
10. Brandon Williams, Missouri Southern State
11. Bennie Logan, LSU
12. Chris Jones, Bowling Green
13. Jordan Hill, Penn State
14. Akeem Spence, Illinois
15. Josh Boyd, Mississippi State
16. Jared Smith, New Hampshire
17. Kwame Geathers, Georgia
18. Everett Dawkins, Florida State
19. TJ Barnes, Georgia Tech
20. Larry Black Jr, Indiana

LB:

1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Manti Te’o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
5. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
6. Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
7. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss
8. Sio Moore, UConn
9. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
10. Trevardo Williams, UConn
11. John Simon, Ohio State
12. Kiko Alonso, Oregon
13. Jon Bostic, Florida
14. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
15. Ty Powell, Harding
16. Nico Johnson, Alabama
17. Jelani Jenkins, Florida
18. Sean Porter, Texas A&M
19. Chase Thomas, Stanford
20. Gerald Hodges, Penn State
21. Lerentee McCray, Florida
21. Vince Williams, Florida State
22. Keith Pough, Howard
23. AJ Klein, Iowa State
24. DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina
25. Michael Mauti, Penn State
26. Travis Long, Washington State
27. Brandon Hepburn, Florida A&M
28. Meshak Williams, Kansas State
29. Steve Beauharnais, Rutgers
30. Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech
31. Kenny Tate, Maryland



CB:

1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Desmond Trufant, Washington
3. Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana
4. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
5. David Amerson, NC State
6. Jamar Taylor, Boise State
7. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
8. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, UConn
9. Darius Slay, Mississippi State
10. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
11. DJ Hayden, Houston
12. B.W. Webb, William & Mary
13. Logan Ryan, Rutgers
14. Sanders Commings, Georgia Tech
15. Leon McFadden, San Diego State
16. Dwayne Gratz, UConn
17. Tharold Simon, LSU
18. Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
19. Terry Hawthorne, Illinois
20. Will Davis, Utah State
21. Nickell Roby, USC
22. Dax Swanson, Sam Houston State
23. Demetrius McCray, App. State
24. Rod Sweeting, Georgia Tech
25. Steve Williams, California
26. Micah Hyde, Iowa
27. March Anthony, California
28. Johnny Adams, Michigan State
29. Mike Edwards, Hawaii
30. Marcus Cromartie, Wisconsin
31. Chibuikem Okoro, Wake Forest
32. Adrian Bushell, Louisville

S:

1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Eric Reid, LSU
3. Johnathan Cyprien, FIU
4. Matt Elam, Florida
5. DJ Swearinger, South Carolina
6. Bacarri Rambo, Georgia
7. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
8. Josh Evans, Florida
9. Earl Wolff, NC State
10. TJ McDonald, USC
11. Shawn Williams, Georgia
12. Duke Williams, Nevada
13. Phillip Thomas, Fresno State
14. JJ Wilcox, Georgia Southern
15. Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma
16. Rontez Miles, Cal (PA)
17. John Boyett Oregon
18. Jakar Hamilton, South Carolina State
19. Robert Lester, Alabama
20. Daimion Stafford, Nebraska
21. Bradley McDougald, Kansas
22. Cooper Taylor, Richmond
23. Jawanza Starling, USC
24. Ray-Ray Armstrong, Miami (FL)
25. Rahsard Hall, Clemson

K:

1. Dustin Hopkins, Florida State
2. Caleb Sturgis, Florida
3. Brett Maher, Nebraska
4. Casey Barth, North Carolina
5. Zach Brown, Portland State

P:

1. Brad Wing, LSU
2. Sam Martin, App State
3. Jeff Locke, UCLA
4. Ryan Allen, Louisiaina Tech
5. Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State

LS:

1. Luke Ingram, Hawaii
2. Carson Tinker, Alabama
3. Jordan Cowart, Notre Dame

K Train 04-18-2013 11:39 AM

For the most part it looks really good....but....Deandre Hopkins? come on you dont really think hes the best do you?

Eric Reid seems really high

I like SAM MCGUFFIE and Kenny Tate on the lists

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Train (Post 3334143)
For the most part it looks really good....but....Deandre Hopkins? come on you dont really think hes the best do you?

Eric Reid seems really high

I like SAM MCGUFFIE and Kenny Tate on the lists

Yup, I think DeAndre Hopkins is the best. Most polished, gets separation. He'll outlast most WRs in this class. And Reid's mental make-up and upside gives him the #2 spot for me.

Iamcanadian 04-18-2013 11:42 AM

What is your criteria, is it based on how they will be drafted or your own personal likes and dislikes, therefore how they will do as pros.

I cannot comment unless I know your criteria.

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamcanadian (Post 3334151)
What is your criteria, is it based on how they will be drafted or your own personal likes and dislikes, therefore how they will do as pros.

I cannot comment unless I know your criteria.

This is all my own personal evaluations on the players, not where they will be drafted.

JHL6719 04-18-2013 11:46 AM

Reid is probably a better prospect than Vacarro anyway. Not to mention doesn't have the off field issues (arrest) that Vacarro has. If Vacarro was special, he'd have come out last year.

If Vacarro is drafted in the 1st round, he'll be the first safety in over 2 decades to be drafted in the 1st round that timed 4.6 at the combine. I wouldn't do it.

Cigaro 04-18-2013 11:49 AM

I to some extent agree on Hopkins. There isn't a single bad part to his game, IMO. He's got good size, strength and athleticism. Certainly among the best route runners in the class, as well as best catchers. Quite adept at positioning himself in the best possible spots for the quarterback to hit him. He's also a decent run blocker.

I think the Panthers could trade down a little and still nab him, but at the same time I wouldn't complain if we took him at #14 either.

Of course, Hopkins is also one of the reasons why I'm simply not a fan of Reid. Hopkins made Reid simply look silly in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. I know Reid certainly has all the potential, but I just haven't seen him put it together consistently, despite plenty of experience and working with some of the best defensive coaches college has to offer.

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigaro (Post 3334163)
I to some extent agree on Hopkins. There isn't a single bad part to his game, IMO. He's got good size, strength and athleticism. Certainly among the best route runners in the class, as well as best catchers. Quite adept at positioning himself in the best possible spots for the quarterback to hit him. He's also a decent run blocker.

I think the Panthers could trade down a little and still nab him, but at the same time I wouldn't complain if we took him at #14 either.

He's the guy I'd want for Pittsburgh too. I think he sees a nice long NFL career.

K Train 04-18-2013 11:50 AM

I think Reid is much more of a name than he is a good football player. Im not very high on vaccaro either, Elam is my favorite this year. I love Amerson and Shamarko too

4U2NV 04-18-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3334144)
Yup, I think DeAndre Hopkins is the best. Most polished, gets separation. He'll outlast most WRs in this class. And Reid's mental make-up and upside gives him the #2 spot for me.

I agree. Hopkins is a beast and is more pro ready than any of the other guys at his position. Doesn't have the upside of guys like Patterson or Austin or even Hunter but is a safer choice that already runs pro quality routes. Very underrated player who's going to surprise people how early he goes in the draft.

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 3334178)
really? leveon bell that far down? i feel like i'm mostly hearing he's being slept on and should be higher, not lower. especially not lower than a guy who may be unable to play again. why don't you like him?

He's sluggish, too sluggish for the NFL. Just doesn't have the get up and go once he gets the ball that I think will make for him getting on the field. Not a great blocker for his size. Both him and Ball, I'm meh on.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock 04-18-2013 12:04 PM

Robert Alford?

Robcards 04-18-2013 12:04 PM

This should go without saying, but I love that you have Mingo ahead of Jordan. And that you have Barkley ahead of Nassib. Agree with most of this, not really sure why you don't like Ertz though.

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock (Post 3334190)
Robert Alford?

Robert Alford.

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3334191)
This should go without saying, but I love that you have Mingo ahead of Jordan. And that you have Barkley ahead of Nassib. Agree with most of this, not really sure why you don't like Ertz though.

I'm not an Ertz fan. He doesn't get separation, won't block for you, and doesn't get down the seam well enough for my taste. I see a red zone threat, future #2 pass catching TE.

princefielder28 04-18-2013 12:52 PM

Thoughts on each position....

QB: Of course I'd like Tyler Wilson to be a little higher but you do have him ranked higher than most...love how high you have Ryan Griffin

RB: Lacy's injury question marks make me think he's no longer worthy of the top spot...there's a bunch of good talent with the running back class, that it comes down to preference with many of these backs

WR: Hopkins as the #1 guy won't get an argument from me...wish you were a little higher on Quinton Patton...Eric Rogers is a late round receiver who is very intriguing

TE: Only surprise is Ertz being ranked fourth but you've already explained your thoughts on him

OT: I'm not as high on Fluker as most...don't see Dallas Thomas as a tackle in the NFL...I like where Becton is in your rankings, should be getting more attention than Painter

OG: I like that you've included Ryan Jensen in the rankings but I gotta ask you what you see (or don't see) in Eric Herman

C: Not much to talk about with the centers...after the first few it's a weak group

DE: I don't understand the love for Carradine over Werner...Quanterus Smith really seems to be gaining some momentum towards the end of the process

DT: Huge thumbs up on Sylvester Williams over Floyd...Hankins isn't worth such a high ranking though

LB: Overall good rankings, not as high on Jarvis Jones

CB: I question Alford's mental ability to handle the NFL and don't see Amerson as a corner...like that you have Slay ahead of Banks...Will Davis deserves more love

S: I don't like Eric Reid but otherwise the rankings are solid

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 3334247)
Thoughts on each position....

QB: Of course I'd like Tyler Wilson to be a little higher but you do have him ranked higher than most...love how high you have Ryan Griffin

RB: Lacy's injury question marks make me think he's no longer worthy of the top spot...there's a bunch of good talent with the running back class, that it comes down to preference with many of these backs

WR: Hopkins as the #1 guy won't get an argument from me...wish you were a little higher on Quinton Patton...Eric Rogers is a late round receiver who is very intriguing

TE: Only surprise is Ertz being ranked fourth but you've already explained your thoughts on him

OT: I'm not as high on Fluker as most...don't see Dallas Thomas as a tackle in the NFL...I like where Becton is in your rankings, should be getting more attention than Painter

OG: I like that you've included Ryan Jensen in the rankings but I gotta ask you what you see (or don't see) in Eric Herman

C: Not much to talk about with the centers...after the first few it's a weak group

DE: I don't understand the love for Carradine over Werner...Quanterus Smith really seems to be gaining some momentum towards the end of the process

DT: Huge thumbs up on Sylvester Williams over Floyd...Hankins isn't worth such a high ranking though

LB: Overall good rankings, not as high on Jarvis Jones

CB: I question Alford's mental ability to handle the NFL and don't see Amerson as a corner...like that you have Slay ahead of Banks...Will Davis deserves more love

S: I don't like Eric Reid but otherwise the rankings are solid

Awesome. Wilson is a tough eval, I've waffled on him so much. I think he can be a starter, but not a franchise guy.

RB is all in interpretation. I've seen what I need to from Eddie Lacy to feel confident he'll be a very good back (and falling to round 2 is likely a good thing)

WR: I'm not in the Patton love community. He is a solid, will stick around, but I see a healthy Vincent Brown.

As for the rest, I appreciate your comments, especially on the small school guys. Jensen/Rogers, I haven't seen more than highlights unfortunately, but I'm intrigued. Herman seems like one of those players who will go higher than my ranking but he has elbow issue and is heavy waisted, I will pass despite the experience and versatility.

I'm glad someone else really likes Sylvester Williams! He has sold me, think he could go above richardson even.

princefielder28 04-18-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3334262)
I'm glad someone else really likes Sylvester Williams! He has sold me, think he could go above richardson even.

Would it be fair to say that Williams is in play for Carolina at 14?

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 3334267)
Would it be fair to say that Williams is in play for Carolina at 14?

May not quite fit what the Panthers want in a DT, but he def. could be.

Witten4HOF 04-18-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

12) Knile Davis, Rutgers
Was that supposed to be Jamison in that slot or Knile and just the wrong school?

Hurricanes25 04-18-2013 01:11 PM

I love that you seem pretty high on Gillislee. I think he's a 3 down back, maybe one of the few in the class.

I think you may have left off Jawan Jamison by accident?

Shane P. Hallam 04-18-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricanes25 (Post 3334275)
I love that you seem pretty high on Gillislee. I think he's a 3 down back, maybe one of the few in the class.

I think you may have left off Jawan Jamison by accident?

Thanks, I combined Knile Davis and Jawan Jamison. Much appreciated Hurricans and Witten.

cunningham06 04-18-2013 01:15 PM

Kevin Minter over Arthur Brown? I just don't get the love for Minter. He's not an explosive hitter, is an arm tackler, and isn't particularly fast - won't be a sideline to sideline defender in the NFL. He tends to ride people to the ground rather than square up and stuff the runner. When I watch film on him I see a guy who will be an average pro, and shouldn't be anywhere close to the 1st round.

Cigaro 04-18-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3334269)
May not quite fit what the Panthers want in a DT, but he def. could be.

That hasn't stopped nearly everyone from mocking us Sheldon Richardson. Williams would be a much better fit for us than Richardson would be.

Grizzlegom 04-18-2013 01:20 PM

No Gerald Hodges?


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