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ph90702 04-23-2013 09:44 PM

Marcus Lattimore
 
Would he have been an elite prospect if he hadn't gotten injured in 2011 or 2012? I personally thought he was a better running back than Trent Richardson before the injuries. What are your thoughts?

BallerT1215 04-23-2013 09:45 PM

He would have been the best RB prospect since AD, even more than Spiller and T-Rich.

Definite Top 10 pick - the natural skills, intangibles, off the field etc etc. He had it all

I remember first watching his tapes in HS when FSU was recruiting him and thinking how awesome he was on pretty much every play.

badgerbacker 04-23-2013 09:47 PM

If if's and and's were pots and pans, the whole world would be a kitchen.

That said, I'd say he would have been comparable to Richardson and probably have been a top 10 pick.

BallerT1215 04-23-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by badgerbacker (Post 3340105)
If if's and and's were pots and pans, the whole world would be a kitchen.

I prefer the slogan "If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle".

Carry on....

PossibleCabbage 04-23-2013 09:55 PM

I disagree that he would have been an elite prospect if he hadn't gotten injured. Even with no torn ACLs throughout his entire college career, I think he would have been a borderline first round pick.

He's (reportedly) a great person, and he's smart and a hard worker, I just never saw the kind of top notch athleticism I look for in a first round back (even before he tore his first ACL.)

All this "best RB since Peterson" stuff is just astonishing to me, since I never saw anything close to that. I don't really think he would have graded out better than David Wilson, let alone Trent Richardson.

BallerT1215 04-23-2013 09:59 PM

Cabbage

He had the most important things for a RB - Natural field vision and always falling forward like Edge James. Very similar runner. Also, he had great hands coming out of the backfield.


PossibleCabbage 04-23-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BallerT1215 (Post 3340119)
Cabbage

He had the most important things for a RB - Natural field vision and always falling forward like Edge James. Very similar runner. Also, he had great hands coming out of the backfield.

I acknowledge that. My grade on him in 2010 was "potential second round pick". If I'm spending a first round pick on an RB, I need something "special" there. I never saw anything "special" in Lattimore (I didn't in Doug Martin either, I liked him, but wouldn't have taken him in the first.)

There's always lots of RBs, I never saw Lattimore as the kind of guy that if you passed on him once, you weren't going to get anything near the same quality of player the next time you pick.

norcalgsr 04-23-2013 10:15 PM

I wouldn't call him elite. That word goes to physical freaks. Lattimore isn't one.

BallerT1215 04-23-2013 10:27 PM

So both of you considered D-Mac a more "elite" prospect?

PossibleCabbage 04-23-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BallerT1215 (Post 3340151)
So both of you considered D-Mac a more "elite" prospect?

I had a higher grade on McFadden than I would have had on Lattimore had he maintained his production pre-injury.

I was nowhere near as high on McFadden as the Raiders were, however. I had him with a mid-first grade.

Nastradamus 04-23-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage (Post 3340116)
I disagree that he would have been an elite prospect if he hadn't gotten injured. Even with no torn ACLs throughout his entire college career, I think he would have been a borderline first round pick.

He's (reportedly) a great person, and he's smart and a hard worker, I just never saw the kind of top notch athleticism I look for in a first round back (even before he tore his first ACL.)

All this "best RB since Peterson" stuff is just astonishing to me, since I never saw anything close to that. I don't really think he would have graded out better than David Wilson, let alone Trent Richardson.

I agree. He'd be no lock to be the first back taken in this draft IMO. He could have easily gone in the 3rd, depending on his Combine.

WCH 04-23-2013 10:42 PM

I thought Felix Jones was better than McFadden.

I wasn't right, but I might have been closer than the Raiders were. I never understood the talk about McFadden being better than AD. That was just stupid.

J255979-11nine 04-23-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 3340168)
I thought Felix Jones was better than McFadden.

I wasn't right, but I might have been closer than the Raiders were. I never understood the talk about McFadden being better than AD. That was just stupid.

People love speed

ph90702 04-23-2013 11:12 PM

Marcus Lattimore was putting up Heisman-like numbers before his injury in 2011. Also, he broke off a few big runs in conference play. Finally, his ability to stop and start at his size was pretty amazing.

K Train 04-23-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage (Post 3340116)
I disagree that he would have been an elite prospect if he hadn't gotten injured. Even with no torn ACLs throughout his entire college career, I think he would have been a borderline first round pick.

He's (reportedly) a great person, and he's smart and a hard worker, I just never saw the kind of top notch athleticism I look for in a first round back (even before he tore his first ACL.)

All this "best RB since Peterson" stuff is just astonishing to me, since I never saw anything close to that. I don't really think he would have graded out better than David Wilson, let alone Trent Richardson.

im as big of a trent richardson fan as there is, latimore would very much be on par with trent had he not shredded his knees

thebow305 04-23-2013 11:58 PM

No doubt top 10 pick before the injuries.. Right below AD and Run Dmc as a prospect. His HS tape and freshman year were the start of a legend. The reason I would still have no problem using a 2nd day pick on him. Plus he has the one thing you can't teach in a player, heart. I'd never bet against the guy.

Iamcanadian 04-24-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage (Post 3340116)
I disagree that he would have been an elite prospect if he hadn't gotten injured. Even with no torn ACLs throughout his entire college career, I think he would have been a borderline first round pick.

He's (reportedly) a great person, and he's smart and a hard worker, I just never saw the kind of top notch athleticism I look for in a first round back (even before he tore his first ACL.)

All this "best RB since Peterson" stuff is just astonishing to me, since I never saw anything close to that. I don't really think he would have graded out better than David Wilson, let alone Trent Richardson.

I fully agree, no where near an elite prospect, maybe late round 1 or early round 2 before he got injured but that is about it.

49erNation85 04-24-2013 12:28 AM

Wouldn't mind him in sf for a future RB to replace Gore.

norcalgsr 04-24-2013 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BallerT1215 (Post 3340151)
So both of you considered D-Mac a more "elite" prospect?

McFadden has great speed but a horrible build for a RB. If he was a WR, I'd consider him elite. Being too skinny for a RB doesn't equate to "physical freak".

ImBrotherCain 04-24-2013 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgerbacker (Post 3340105)
If if's and and's were pots and pans, the whole world would be a kitchen.

That said, I'd say he would have been comparable to Richardson and probably have been a top 10 pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallerT1215 (Post 3340109)
I prefer the slogan "If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle".

Carry on....

I prefer "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then every day would be Erntedankfest"

Brent 04-24-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain (Post 3340435)
I prefer "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then every day would be Erntedankfest"

"if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass when he hops."

Iamcanadian 04-24-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by norcalgsr (Post 3340381)
McFadden has great speed but a horrible build for a RB. If he was a WR, I'd consider him elite. Being too skinny for a RB doesn't equate to "physical freak".

Spot on analysis.

Simply Keak 04-24-2013 11:19 AM

He still wouldn't be on Richardson's level ... This guy wasn't dominating college .. He was getting like 120 yards on 30 carries a game. A better Cedric Benson. Late first round type of guy.

Punisher 04-24-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Keak (Post 3340588)
He still wouldn't be on Richardson's level ... This guy wasn't dominating college .. He was getting like 120 yards on 30 carries a game. A better Cedric Benson. Late first round type of guy.

Agreed Completely.


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