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underscore 07-06-2013 09:20 PM

Combine May Skip Academically Ineligible Players
The NFL is considering not inviting players who are academically ineligible to the Combine, according to CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman.

According to Feldman's source "the move is being discussed because of the increased scrutiny on the maturity and commitment of the prospects entering the NFL... adding that if this measure was in place in 2013, a sizable group of players would not have been invited to Indianapolis for the Combine." We are intrigued by the move and wonder if this rule might be common among other post season activities.

WCH 07-06-2013 09:31 PM

I hate this idea so much.

niel89 07-06-2013 10:07 PM

Hate it. If a guy honestly screwed up and is working hard to redeem himself, he should have that chance. NFL teams should be smart enough to see which players are bad seeds and which made some mistakes. I think questionable character players should be scrutinized more now, but there shouldn't be a firm rule to exclude them.

Ozzy 07-06-2013 10:37 PM

It would be interesting to see over the past few seasons who actually would be academically ineligible come combine time.

The NFL has the best minor league system in pro sports, college football. It produces quality NFL players on a consistent basis, gets most of them ready and creates free band awareness and makes star athletes that are famous before they even get to the league.

The combine measures physical abilities, sure there is the metal side of it with the interviews and the wonderlic, but no one remembers wonderlic scores but they sure remember 40 times.

Most players do well with the academics during the season but you do see some fall off at the end then they cannot play the bowl game. But worst case if they do it, they will just get those athletic numbers on the pro day which they already do.

TACKLE 07-06-2013 10:54 PM

This is a ******* awful idea. It's ridiculous in the first place that there is no means for a player to become a professional athlete in this sport without being a university student for 3 years when being a university student has nothing to do at all with becoming a pro athlete. So now the National Football League is going to blackball players if they are not doing something that has little to no correlation with their ability to be a successful professional athlete and something that has absolutely nothing to do with whether someone will become a druggy or a violent criminal. Nothing. This is just another case of the NFL being irrationally reactionary.

And the fact that this is in anyway being connected to Aaron Hernandez is one of the dumbest ******* things I've heard in a while.

Mufasa 07-06-2013 11:38 PM

Yeah this is dumb. The NFL has absolutely nothing to do with university academics.

The NCAA has to do stuff like this because they still have to pretend that their student-athletes are actually students, but the NFL has no connection.

WCH 07-07-2013 01:30 AM

Don't you want those guys at the combine so that you can interview them and ask them why they weren't going to class?

Plus this would probably hurt teams with small scouting budgets.

MI_Buckeye 07-07-2013 01:49 AM

HMMM... Seems counterintuitive to me. I mean wouldn't you want every opportunity to investigate a prospect, especially if he might have character/maturity questions?

descendency 07-07-2013 01:59 AM

There are lots of opportunities for coaches and personnel to get ahold of players that does not include the scouting combine. This is the biggest non-story ever.

TitanHope 07-07-2013 06:56 AM

Sounds like it benefits the colleges more than the NFL. Forces kids who are looking ahead to the NFL to not do so at the expense if their grades, and may encourage guys who are failing to stick around to boost their grades. I'm not outraged about if, cause grades and transcripts can be forged, but it seems silly.

This seems like something the average fan would eat up, though.

wicket 07-07-2013 07:18 AM

absolutely silly if you ask me

FUNBUNCHER 07-07-2013 07:37 AM

This is stupid.

Many draft eligible football student-athletes basically drop out after their final season of college football and blow off the spring semester.

I get the feeling Mr. Goodell is finding it very difficult to find meaningful projects to focus on as NFL Commissioner.

Matthew Jones 07-07-2013 07:42 AM

This doesn't make sense for anyone aside from the NCAA. It certainly doesn't benefit incoming players, and it doesn't benefit NFL teams either because they miss out on an opportunity to scout a player.

MassNole 07-07-2013 08:42 AM

So then someone like Deion Sanders who didn't attend a class as a senior wouldn't be invited to the Combine?

Rabscuttle 07-07-2013 09:25 AM

Is this rule suggesting the prospects have to stay eligible in the spring semester? How many prospects are out of town at performance camps for weeks before the combine and pro-days?

MassNole 07-07-2013 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rabscuttle (Post 3399096)
Is this rule suggesting the prospects have to stay eligible in the spring semester? How many prospects are out of town at performance camps for weeks before the combine and pro-days?

Given when the Combine is that wouldn't be feasible. I presume it means the fall semester to avoid the aforementioned Deion Sanders' of The world.

tjsunstein 07-07-2013 12:34 PM

Let's stop drafting 17 year olds in the MLB and NHL then too. Mandate 3 years in college basketball with satisfactory grades and see what turns out.

Higher education does not make athletes.

brat316 07-07-2013 12:42 PM

They still can get drafted.

BallerT1215 07-07-2013 02:17 PM

Just beyond a dumb idea if they go through with this for the combine.

Babylon 07-07-2013 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by brat316 (Post 3399160)
They still can get drafted.

Exactly. My guess is the top players would still be drafted where they're slotted. Probably hurts the lower level guy more.

The NFL has had a brutal offseason and at this point are probably just grasping at straws to find some solution to all the off field activities. This doesn't amount to much of a remedy to me.

Caulibflower 07-07-2013 04:46 PM

Smells like a PR move to me.

P-L 07-08-2013 09:32 AM

Are there really that many academically ineligible players in any given year to cause people to get so worked up over this?

Attyla the Hawk 07-08-2013 11:35 AM

It shouldn't surprise anyone here.

They (NFL) don't want to have psych evals of the socially challenged on record. If they don't go to the combine, then there isn't any record of any anti social tendencies.

It's the NFL's version of "Don't ask, don't tell". There is nothing more to it than that.

StickSkills 07-08-2013 11:40 AM

Lets start our own combine for those who aren't academically eligible. I guarantee every team would send a scout.

tjsunstein 07-08-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 3399162)
... so what's your point? that it's unfair that they have to receive a free education, or that the nfl thinks it's useful to keep players in college for three years? i have no idea what you're actually arguing. is the nfl suddenly a better league if it lets teams draft high school players? does that somehow make it more watchable or interesting?

No, I'm saying that being academically eligible doesn't effect how good an athlete can be. This seems like changing something for the sake of changing. I was just comparing how irrelevant this is to the actual sport. Baseball and hockey both draft 17 year old kids who didn't have to qualify academically. It has no barring on the product put on the field of play whether these kids are academically eligible. If anything, lets make sure these kids pass all of their drug tests while in school before worrying about whether or not they passed a class at a college they would've never had the chance to go to without football.

Point: academic eligibility in no way correlates to the NFL.

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