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Scotty D 01-06-2014 09:47 AM

NFL adding a Wildcard team to each conference
 
Per Dan Patrick

https://twitter.com/andrewperloff/st...96922247225344
Quote:

Dan Patrick says he's been told that the NFL will add a wild card team in both conferences.

Bert Macklin 01-06-2014 09:49 AM

makes getting the #1 seed more important. i like it. i still hate higher win teams having to travel though.

Jvig43 01-06-2014 09:56 AM

Why? (10 chars)

Scotty D 01-06-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jvig43 (Post 3538280)
Why? (10 chars)

To mess up a good thing, water down the playoffs, and add additional revenue.

Monomach 01-06-2014 10:01 AM

You know what I hate about the NBA? It feels like pretty much everyone makes the playoffs. The NFL really doesn't need to creep in that direction.

But they will.
Because ratings.

brat316 01-06-2014 10:01 AM

Is the playoff system broken? Why have the possibility of a medicore team get in and then get blow out.

So now only the #1 seed would get a bye.

farfromforgotten 01-06-2014 10:02 AM

Money, money, money, money...

Money!

I hate the idea, but it was bound to happen at some point.

Jvig43 01-06-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bert Macklin (Post 3538272)
makes getting the #1 seed more important. i like it. i still hate higher win teams having to travel though.

Sure, while were at it lets just do away with the importance of winning your conference as well. Mandatory bitching from me over change, etc, etc....

brat316 01-06-2014 10:09 AM

How many more games would that add to the playoffs?

6 total wildcard games vs 4....now they can own the weekend and MNF..muahhaha

4 divisional games vs 4

2 CC vs 2

jrdrylie 01-06-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brat316 (Post 3538288)
Is the playoff system broken? Why have the possibility of a medicore team get in and then get blow out.

So now only the #1 seed would get a bye.

First off, the additional team would not get blown out. It's not like they are adding the worst team in the Conference. They are adding another wild card team. Second, here is a break down of the records of the teams that would have made it since 2002:

11-5: 1 Team
10-6: 6 Teams
9-7: 11 Teams
8-8: 6 Teams

So about 50% of the time, the extra wild card team would be a 9-7 team. Is that really so bad? We have 9-7 teams make the playoffs every year. Are they getting blown out? Did San Diego and Green Bay get killed yesterday? And it's actually more likely for a double digit win team to get in than an 8 win team.

I love the idea. The idea of this watering down the playoffs with mediocre teams just isn't true when you actually look at which teams would be making the playoffs. 14 teams is a fine number. I'd be against adding any more because I think less than half the teams should make it. But 7 from each conference would be just fine.

brat316 01-06-2014 10:25 AM

There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?

Dangermouse 01-06-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brat316 (Post 3538318)
There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?

Based on history:



Around 50% of the time, the 7th seed would be 9-7

Around 25% of the time, they would be 8-8

Around 25% of the time, they would be 10-6 or better

They would never be 7-9





Not such a bad thing imo

farfromforgotten 01-06-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brat316 (Post 3538318)
There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?

Yeah, 17 out of 24 teams were .500 or 1 game better? No thanks. I'd rather things remain as is. I don't think those teams would get blown out, either, and sure it sucks for those teams with 10 or more victories not getting in but those have been far fewer as we can all see from the post above.

The NFL is a tough league, but teams that finish around .500 don't need a better chance of getting in the playoffs.

mightytitan9 01-06-2014 11:10 AM

Why not just do away with division winners get an automatic bid and making the best 6 records, regardless of division getting in?

A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it

Jvig43 01-06-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mightytitan9 (Post 3538381)
Why not just do away with division winners get an automatic bid and making the best 6 records, regardless of division getting in?

A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it

So are we saying we should do away with conferences? I'm not sure how people would feel about that.

vidae 01-06-2014 11:17 AM

Not that I really dislike it, but it's unnecessary.

mightytitan9 01-06-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jvig43 (Post 3538392)
So are we saying we should do away with conferences? I'm not sure how people would feel about that.

I understand where you're going, but conferences need to be retained. However, the division winners in the playoffs do not. but why allow teams with a worse record in the playoffs and leave better teams out simply because they won their division that was worse. Why should a team get homefield because they're a higher seed because they won their crappy division?

Makes no sense.

Giantsfan1080 01-06-2014 11:21 AM

You'd be taking away divisions within a conference not the conference as a whole. 2 conferences 16 teams each.

princefielder28 01-06-2014 11:22 AM

I like six teams but this puts more importance on being #1, the very best in the conference for that year, and I don't think it's a bad move.

mightytitan9 01-06-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080 (Post 3538399)
You'd be taking away divisions within a conference not the conference as a whole. 2 conferences 16 teams each.

You would be taking away the divisions for playoff purposes, however, there would still be the bragging rights of the division for the regular season, and the general rivalries associated with the division as a whole.

Doing this would take away from the whole "winning you division" deal, but if it helps the playoffs I don't see it as a problem.

But, then again, all the NFL really cares about it getting more money.

YotoJets007 01-06-2014 11:42 AM

So NFL will add a noon game to Saturday and a night game to Sunday? I love the way sports to turn us into potato coach bums. lol.


I have no qualms with only number one team gets bye week but claiming 7th playoff spot shouldn't make a head coach's resume better.

PoopSandwich 01-06-2014 12:05 PM

Tie Breakers are going to get insane lol

igglefanz 01-06-2014 12:07 PM

Now hear me out with division winners getting home games over wildcards i think that is fair. With and unbalanced schedule you do not play the same teams and can have a very different schedule then a conference winner.

This year is the exception with a very good Saints team and 49ers team were both wildcards and a good Arizona team got left out. Winning your division should mean something or what is the point of division games. They impact tie breakers and mean so much as of what your season is based on. It would take away some of the fun of division games making them less meaningful.

Also lets just take random team from NFC south and a Random team from the NFC east for arguments sake. Lets say the south had to play the NFC north and AFC South which had a total of 6 of the 8 teams below 500 vs the east playing the NFC west and AFC West which has 2 teams below 500 and 5 playoff teams. This isnt what happened this year but would it be fair for the team with the much easier schedule to get in as a wildcard and have home field.

The Alex 01-06-2014 12:14 PM

I like even numbers, this is bull****.

Monomach 01-06-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightytitan9 (Post 3538381)
Why not just do away with division winners get an automatic bid and making the best 6 records, regardless of division getting in?

A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it

Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).


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