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woodsy10@ 04-12-2007 09:10 PM

Where should the NFL expand next?
 
Another football board I use posted a similar question, so I bring it here.

Let's say that the NFL has decided to expand again. To what cities should they grant teams?

Please don't say Los Angeles, because it won't happen. A team will move there in the near future. It will be either Oakland (after Al Davis dies and his heirs have to sell the team) or Jacksonville that moves.

Also, Toronto will be covered when Ralph Wilson moves the Bills there in the next decade, so avoid that too.

bigbluedefense 04-12-2007 09:12 PM

Nowhere. The league is watered down enough. We don't need another team to water it down some more. Id like to see us get rid of 2 teams honestly. It will bring more competition and better play to the league.

Hmmm....if I had to choose, I say it should be a southern/midwestern state that has a huge football fanbase but no NFL team.

Nebraska or Alabama?

No LA. They don't deserve a team.

Moses 04-12-2007 09:15 PM

Their are already enough teams. The more teams, the more watered down the talent becomes. Plus, some teams only play each other every 4 years now. It would only get worse with more teams. Keep it the way it is.

Jay 04-12-2007 09:15 PM

Las Vegas! Sooner or later a major sports league is going to have to recognize that market. I doubt it will be the NFL, probably the NHL before anyone.

San Antonio would also be a pretty obvious destination with what they did for the Saints while the Super Dome was down for the count.

doingthisinsteadofwork 04-12-2007 09:16 PM

I really cant think of any city where there should be an expansion team.

princefielder28 04-12-2007 09:16 PM

Give Milwaukee a football team; Wisconsin loves football!!!!

bigbluedefense 04-12-2007 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 300038)
Las Vegas! Sooner or later a major sports league is going to have to recognize that market. I doubt it will be the NFL, probably the NHL before anyone.

San Antonio would also be a pretty obvious destination with what they did for the Saints while the Super Dome was down for the count.

Can you imagine the type of trouble athletes will get into if they played for Vegas?

The NBA allstar weekend there was thugz mansion. Imagine having a team there. Im highly opposed to the idea.

JK17 04-12-2007 09:17 PM

Yeah I'd agree with almost every other poster here, it's already getting to spread out that it makes it hard for games to stay competitive, and teams to face each other. 32 is a good number, lets leave it at that.

PoopSandwich 04-12-2007 09:17 PM

Kentucky maybe?

JT Jag 04-12-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 300043)
Give Milwaukee a football team; Wisconsin loves football!!!!

Milwaukee has a football team. It's called the Packers.

Jay 04-12-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense (Post 300045)
Can you imagine the type of trouble athletes will get into if they played for Vegas?

The NBA allstar weekend there was thugz mansion. Imagine having a team there. Im highly opposed to the idea.

Oh I don't doubt that for a minute, and that is exactly why all four major sports have stayed away.

GB12 04-12-2007 09:19 PM

I really don't want another team. 32 is fine, it keeps the confeerences and divisions with an equal number of teams. And if it is anywhere it sure as hell better not be LA, they have had there chance and California already has 3 teams.

princefielder28 04-12-2007 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT Jag (Post 300050)
Milwaukee has a football team. It's called the Packers.

There own football team; the Packers are the city of Green Bay and Milkwaukee fans get 2 regular season games a year, but there are over 50,000 people in Wisconsin that wantr season tickets so it wouldn't be a problem to fill another stadium

GB12 04-12-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 300043)
Give Milwaukee a football team; Wisconsin loves football!!!!

Woah, woah, woah, back up there. WTF did you just say

RaiderNation 04-12-2007 09:20 PM

sacramento

princefielder28 04-12-2007 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB12 (Post 300060)
Woah, woah, woah, back up there. WTF did you just say

Just kdding around but they would give better fan support than Jacksonville

GB12 04-12-2007 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 300065)
Just kdding around but they would give better fan support than Jacksonville

I'd be pissed if they gave Milwaukee a team(I realizr it'll never happen). They would fail miserably. We love our Packers and would not leave them for an expansion team.

princefielder28 04-12-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB12 (Post 300069)
I'd be pissed if they gave Milwaukee a team(I realizr it'll never happen). They would fail miserably. We love our Packers and would not leave them for an expansion team.

Probably taking things a little too literal

Jay 04-12-2007 09:24 PM

I'm not anti-expansion, and I don't really think the league would be that watered down if they added another two teams, but I am not necessarily for it either.

Two other cities that would have to be considered are Oklahoma City and Salt Lake City. Who was under consideration when the Jaguars and Panthers were added? I know St. Louis and Memphis were, and both are no longer options now. I feel bad for Memphis. They REALLY wanted an NFL team. I remember living there for about a year when I was 11 and there was a huge brick building at least five floors high that had the NFL logo painted on it and had a message to the commissioner on it. I think it was Rozelle at the time, but I can't remember.

Jay 04-12-2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 300065)
Just kdding around but they would give better fan support than Jacksonville

Jacksonville did much better this year. They sold all the tickets they had available. I don't think they will ever move and I think the town is one good playoff run away from really falling in love with the NFL. Seeing how pumped they got for the Monday night game against Pittsburgh was amazing. They didn't even need to cover the seats for that game...

neko4 04-12-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinslowBodden (Post 300049)
Kentucky maybe?

CIncy is on the border of Kentucky and Ohio

Anyway the jaguars should move to......


VIRGINIA BEACH VIRGINIA
Ottawa might be a good choice for the Bills since Ottawa lost their football team

JT Jag 04-12-2007 09:37 PM

That Pittsburgh game was electric. The Steelers fans that were there did all they could to support their team... but the were slowly silenced as their team was pounded into submission.

After that game, I've never felt the team be so excited for the team. Not since the '96 playoff run.

The city is growing. The fans are growing more loyal despite a lack of a winning season--- ticket renewals are occurring at a significantly higher percentage this year then they did last year.

The Jags need to go deep into the playoffs. If they find their way into the Super Bowl in the next 3 years, you won't be able to pry this team out of Jacksonville with any amount of money.

neko4 04-12-2007 09:42 PM

Duval County-850,000
Hampton Roads area-1,500,000

If JAX does go deep in the playoffs, sure they'll stay, but in the next 5 years things dont turn out to well, odds arent in their favor

Thomas7399 04-12-2007 09:42 PM

I agree with most everybody that the NFL should not expand anymore......talent is watered down as is.


If I were to select a market to move to though, it would probably be Portland, OR.....give the Seahawks at least one reasonably close away game per year.

FinChase 04-12-2007 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 300085)
I'm not anti-expansion, and I don't really think the league would be that watered down if they added another two teams, but I am not necessarily for it either.

Two other cities that would have to be considered are Oklahoma City and Salt Lake City. Who was under consideration when the Jaguars and Panthers were added? I know St. Louis and Memphis were, and both are no longer options now. I feel bad for Memphis. They REALLY wanted an NFL team. I remember living there for about a year when I was 11 and there was a huge brick building at least five floors high that had the NFL logo painted on it and had a message to the commissioner on it. I think it was Rozelle at the time, but I can't remember.

That's a good thought but I suspect the NFL would consider both of those to be too small to support a team. Paul Tagliabue announced a couple of years ago that San Antonio was too small a market for a team, and they are the 7th largest city in the U.S. While I don't exactly where SLC ranks on that list, I know San Antonio is a lot bigger than OKC.


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