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stephenson86 08-10-2006 06:33 PM

All NFLDC K - Neil Rackers
 
This is too find out who you here aat NFLDC think would be most suited to cover deep

All K's have been chosen for either their ability to accurately kick, sty composed, make the big kicks

the options are as follows, if you think i have missed someone (i dont think i have) then tell me and if i think ur reason is valid enough i will add them

If a Position has two players on the field (WR, DE, DT, CB) then the top two players on the poll will be selected, wth the higgher of the two being the #1 and the lower being #2

QB - Tom Brady - New England Patriots (Runner Up - Peyton Manning - Indianapolis Colts)
RB - LaDainian Tomlinson - San Diego Chargers (Runner Up - Larry Johnson - KC Chiefs)
FB - Lorenzo Neal - San Diego Chargers (Runner Up - Tony Richardson - Minnesota Vikings)
WR - Larry Fitzgerald - Arizona Cardinals (Runner Up - Terrel Owens - Dallas Cowboys)
WR - Chad Johnson - Cincinnati Bengals (Runner Up - Marvin Harrison - Inidianapolis Colts)
LT - Walter Jones - Seattle Seahawks (Runner Up - Orlando Pace - St Louis Rams)
LG - Steve Hutchinson - Minnesota Vikings (Runner Up - Larry Allen - Dallas Cowboys)
C - Olin Kreutz - Chicago Bears (Runner Up - LeCharles Bentley - Cleveland Browns)
RG - Will Shields - KC Chiefs (Runner Up - Chris Naeole - Jacksonville Jaguars)
RT - Willie Anderson - Cincinnati Bengals (Runner Up - George Foster - Denver Broncos)
TE - Antonio Gates - San Diego Chargers (Runner Up - Jason Witten - Dallas Cowboys)
RE - Michael Strahan - NY Giants (Runner Up - Dwight Freeney - Indianapolis Colts)
DT - Shaun Rogers - Detroit Lions (Runner Up - John Henderson - Jacksonville Jaguars)
DT - Marcus Stroud - Jacksonville Jaguars (Runner Up - Kevin Williams - Minnisota Vikings)
LE - Julius Peppers - Carolina Panthers (Runner Up - Jason Taylor - Miami Dolphins)
WOLB - Keith Bulluck - Tennessee Titans (Runner Up - Derrick Brooks - Tampa Bay)
MLB - Brian Urlacher - Chicago Bears (Runner Up - Ray Lewis - Baltimore Ravens)
SOLB - Takeo Spikes - Buffalo Bills (Runner Up - Marcus Washington - Washington Redskins)
CB - Champ Bailey - Denver Broncos (Runner Up - Ken Lucas - Carolina Panthers)
CB - Deangelo Hall - Atlanta Falcons (Runner Up - Chris McCallister - Baltimore Ravens)
FS - Brian Dawkins - Phillidelphia Eagles (Runner Up - Sean Taylor - Washington Redskins)
SS - Ed Reed - Baltimore Ravens (Runner Up - Roy Williams - Dallas Cowboys)
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VOTE AWAY

AND PLEASE NO HOMERISM, IF YOU VOTE AGAINST YOUR TEAMS K IT WONT MEAN YOU GO TO HELL, IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU DONT THINK HE IS THE BEST K

ADDITION
When DE's are selected if the two winners/runners up are from the same side then I will decide who i believe will be best able too cope with a side switch.

ADDITION #2
Due too contravrtial circumstances Keith Brooking has not been awarded the runner up for WLB instead it has ben given too third place Derrick Brooks. This comes after twice Brooking recieved a mass influx of votes in a small period of time and P-L announcing someone had multiple accounts on the same IP. I made the decision too not award him the Runner Up. Any Problems PM me.

ADDITION #3
Due too a high influx of sudden votes Charles Woodson has been disqualified as a participant in the CB voting. Instead Chris McCallister has taken his spot.

ADDITION # 4
Despite a sudden influx of votes Tony Richardson was still awarded second place.

P.S. the only way that this can be successful is if you vote, please if you vote here check back when your on too see if a new poll has gone up, all votes are crucial as the more votes there are the more set in stone the voice of the voters will be :D

Thanks,
stephenson86

08-10-2006 06:35 PM

you spelled neil wrong :evil:

bearsfan_51 08-10-2006 06:36 PM

Phil Dawson is easily in the top 5 of kickers. I agree with DMW, no offense to you Stephenson but your lack of exposure to all of the NFL games doesn't make you the most qualified person to make these lists.

08-10-2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
Phil Dawson is easily in the top 5 of kickers. I agree with DMW, no offense to you Stephenson but your lack of exposure to all of the NFL games doesn't make you the most qualified person to make these lists.

yea dawson is top 5 but this is a 3 man race

stephenson86 08-10-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
Phil Dawson is easily in the top 5 of kickers. I agree with DMW, no offense to you Stephenson but your lack of exposure to all of the NFL games doesn't make you the most qualified person to make these lists.

i know but look at it this way, im english, i thought i might do something too spice up the NFL section u know share some opinions, all i have too go off is depth charts, madden rosters, i dont have ESPN, NFL Network, i have seen the team i support play 4 times in 3 years but im tryin my best, and admitted ive missed people like mike brown but i would redo the poll by all means if i thought they had a legit chnce too come 1st or 2nd, if someone wants too redo the whole thing they can i wont be offended but i bet the players would be the same

bearsfan_51 08-10-2006 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stephenson86
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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
Phil Dawson is easily in the top 5 of kickers. I agree with DMW, no offense to you Stephenson but your lack of exposure to all of the NFL games doesn't make you the most qualified person to make these lists.

i know but look at it this way, im english, i thought i might do something too spice up the NFL section u know share some opinions, all i have too go off is depth charts, madden rosters, i dont have ESPN, NFL Network, i have seen the team i support play 4 times in 3 years but im tryin my best, and admitted ive missed people like mike brown but i would redo the poll by all means if i thought they had a legit chnce too come 1st or 2nd, if someone wants too redo the whole thing they can i wont be offended but i bet the players would be the same

Oh it's fine dude, I meant on offense. I think you've done a good job with these and it was a fun idea to do in the first place (even if somewhat meaningless). You are correct in that while there have been a few high profile omissions, none of them would have made the top 2 anyway. No biggie..it's all in good fun anyway.

stephenson86 08-10-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
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Originally Posted by stephenson86
Quote:

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
Phil Dawson is easily in the top 5 of kickers. I agree with DMW, no offense to you Stephenson but your lack of exposure to all of the NFL games doesn't make you the most qualified person to make these lists.

i know but look at it this way, im english, i thought i might do something too spice up the NFL section u know share some opinions, all i have too go off is depth charts, madden rosters, i dont have ESPN, NFL Network, i have seen the team i support play 4 times in 3 years but im tryin my best, and admitted ive missed people like mike brown but i would redo the poll by all means if i thought they had a legit chnce too come 1st or 2nd, if someone wants too redo the whole thing they can i wont be offended but i bet the players would be the same

Oh it's fine dude, I meant on offense. I think you've done a good job with these and it was a fun idea to do in the first place (even if somewhat meaningless). You are correct in that while there have been a few high profile omissions, none of them would have made the top 2 anyway. No biggie..it's all in good fun anyway.

i did make some big blunders eg the spikes exclusion and the shaun rogers exclusion but i made sure they were re done, my only real source of information is madden, nfl.com and what i hear floating around on here :wink:

JLIS24 08-10-2006 06:53 PM

In my eyes it should be Adam Vinatieri, but I could understand Vanderjagt, even if he seems extremely unpopular now. But Rackers has been succesful for one season only and kicker is a position where experience has to be key (and age doesn`t matter at all)

Splat 08-10-2006 06:54 PM

Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

stephenson86 08-10-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JLIS24
In my eyes it should be Adam Vinatieri, but I could understand Vanderjagt, even if he seems extremely unpopular now. But Rackers has been succesful for one season only and kicker is a position where experience has to be key (and age doesn`t matter at all)

GARY ANDERSON

im gonna do a poll of 10 recent retired players who i reckon should get an honarary place on the team - i think i will exclude jerry rice though :lol: other wise there would be no need in doing it :P

08-10-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat420
Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

there go 2 admins

Canadian_kid16 08-10-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat420
Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

why? last year...Viniteri was 20-25 which is 80% an Rackers was 40-42 which is 95%...people just look at his clutch kicks...but Rackers plays for the Cards...he can't make many clutch kicks :wink:

08-10-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian_kid16
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Originally Posted by Splat420
Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

why? last year...Viniteri was 20-25 which is 80% an Rackers was 40-42 which is 95%...people just look at his clutch kicks...but Rackers plays for the Cards...he can't make many clutch kicks :wink:

thats mean :cry: :cry:

stephenson86 08-10-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Canadian_kid16
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Originally Posted by Splat420
Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

why? last year...Viniteri was 20-25 which is 80% an Rackers was 40-42 which is 95%...people just look at his clutch kicks...but Rackers plays for the Cards...he can't make any clutch kicks :wink:

thats mean :cry: :cry:

fixed it for u :D

Dillen 08-10-2006 06:59 PM

I guess you've never heard of David Akers? Vinatieri it is anyways, but Akers is probably the 2nd best kicker in the league. All of Rackers' kicks were inside the 20.

Staubach12 08-10-2006 07:00 PM

Neal Rackers. He was gold for me in fantasy last year.

08-10-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dillen
I guess you've never heard of David Akers? Vinatieri it is anyways, but Akers is probably the 2nd best kicker in the league. All of Rackers' kicks were inside the 20.

only 11 came from inside the 30 :?

Canadian_kid16 08-10-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Canadian_kid16
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Originally Posted by Splat420
Anybody that does not vote Adam Vinatieri should be banned.

why? last year...Viniteri was 20-25 which is 80% an Rackers was 40-42 which is 95%...people just look at his clutch kicks...but Rackers plays for the Cards...he can't make many clutch kicks :wink:

thats mean :cry: :cry:


that will change this year though :wink:

Brodeur 08-10-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dillen
I guess you've never heard of David Akers? Vinatieri it is anyways, but Akers is probably the 2nd best kicker in the league. All of Rackers' kicks were inside the 20.

Hahaha. Neil Rackers has made 11 50 yarders since 2002. Vinateri has made NONE.

Splat 08-10-2006 07:20 PM

Vinatieri is the GOAT!

smittyjs 08-10-2006 08:18 PM

Adam Vinatieri

Ravens1991 08-10-2006 08:30 PM

Adam Vinateri.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) 08-10-2006 08:46 PM

No Elam? I think he deserves to be on there. The man can flat out kick. He made a 63-yarder for christ's sake!

draftguru151 08-10-2006 09:07 PM

Rackers was a monster last season.

Smooth Criminal 08-10-2006 09:35 PM

While Vinatieri made all the kicks that mattered they have been better kickers in the league every year he has been in it. The only reason he is thought of as good is because of all of the situations that his team put him in to win games. Not many of the kicks he made to win games were hard kicks to make by any means. Its not like he makes incredibly long kicks or makes every kick he attempts. Its only the amount of game winners he has is what makes people think he is good. Rackers would have made every kick that Vinatieri made to win games last year.

I can't say Vanderjact is better because he doesn't even do kickoffs.


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