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ninerfan 08-26-2006 10:10 PM

Alex Smith the QB
 
Its only his 2nd season and its a horrible team but is Alex Smith a dud or is he just going thru the normal growing pains? Help cause I'm starting to be worried

Moses 08-26-2006 10:15 PM

It's way too early to tell. After this year, it will be still too early. Give him to at least the end of next year.

Paranoidmoonduck 08-26-2006 10:18 PM

The next Ryan Leaf? I don't think so.

Smith, although he has taken a beating, seems to have a good attitude and the Niners are dedicated to building an offense he can run. He's smart enough to figure it out. What you guys might have is the next David Carr, and unless Nolan can erect a solid offense around Smith to support him, it may be a long while before we can see what he can really do.

Leaf failed because he had a terrible attititude and couldn't stand the magnifying glass being put on him. Sure, he struggled early on, but I have a hard time believing that if he had the right attitude he wouldn't have become a solid starter.

Moses 08-26-2006 10:20 PM

Speaking of Ryan Leaf, let's relive the day he jumped the shark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMe0Rz1frdE

ninerfan 08-26-2006 10:22 PM

Smith seems to have the work ethic, dedication, team mentality to survive but this team stinks on both sides of the ball. He's going to have another tough year and will probably have a tough time next year too. Maybe David Carr might be the best example. For him to survive I dont think they can soley rebuild thru the draft they need to go after key FA when they are available. Is Branch a possibility ?

Paranoidmoonduck 08-26-2006 11:02 PM

I think the Niners can build their skill positions well through the draft. What they need to do is build their defensive line through free agency. That would make a huge difference.

portermvp84 08-26-2006 11:02 PM

I know it's still way too early to decide yet but I think he is a bust. The guy is horrible what did he win one game?

M.O.T.H. 08-26-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by portermvp84
I know it's still way too early to decide yet but I think he is a bust. The guy is horrible what did he win one game?

Hey even Aikman only won one game his first year starting. It's way, way too early to tell yet. They should try to help him out and get an actually receiver that can play the two, Bryan Gilmore just wont cut it.

portermvp84 08-26-2006 11:11 PM

Yeah they need to get some soild Wr's besides AB. And a o line that can stay healthy

Staubach12 08-26-2006 11:33 PM

Smith is statistically similar to Leaf, but I think he's got a better attitude, work ethic, and he's smarter. The intangibles is what seperates the two, and I think Alex Smith could use those strengths to become a good QB, that being said, I don't think he'll ever be a great QB. Average? Maybe. But not #1 pick-like.

dcarey20 08-27-2006 01:26 AM

I think he is ok...I don't think he will ever live up to the #1 pick, but I think he will be solid. The Duke is gonna be a huge help to him.

TimD 08-27-2006 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dcarey20
I think he is ok...I don't think he will ever live up to the #1 pick, but I think he will be solid. The Duke is gonna be a huge help to him.

and next year calvin johnson will help alot too

Shiver 08-27-2006 01:34 AM

He has a lot of talent around him this year, and has flashed production thus far. He is too smart and too talented to fail.

Ward 08-27-2006 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
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Originally Posted by portermvp84
I know it's still way too early to decide yet but I think he is a bust. The guy is horrible what did he win one game?

Hey even Aikman only won one game his first year starting. It's way, way too early to tell yet. They should try to help him out and get an actually receiver that can play the two, Bryan Gilmore just wont cut it.

Aikman and Smith in the same conversation... :o

Paranoidmoonduck 08-27-2006 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ward
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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
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Originally Posted by portermvp84
I know it's still way too early to decide yet but I think he is a bust. The guy is horrible what did he win one game?

Hey even Aikman only won one game his first year starting. It's way, way too early to tell yet. They should try to help him out and get an actually receiver that can play the two, Bryan Gilmore just wont cut it.

Aikman and Smith in the same conversation... :o

Just to prove that rookie season struggles on bad teams doesn't always spell bust for quarterbacks.

DHVF 08-27-2006 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninerfan
Smith seems to have the work ethic, dedication, team mentality to survive but this team stinks on both sides of the ball. He's going to have another tough year and will probably have a tough time next year too. Maybe David Carr might be the best example. For him to survive I dont think they can soley rebuild thru the draft they need to go after key FA when they are available. Is Branch a possibility ?

I pretty much agree with everything you said. The kid has the tools, as well as the mind to succeed, but it's gonna take time, and a gm to surround him with talent before he's able to showcase a lot of what they saw in him when they drafted him.

kyle6 08-27-2006 04:33 AM

jury still out, way too early to tell give him another year or 2...

FinChase 08-27-2006 12:39 PM

Too early to tell. He's got a better chance with Norv Turner as his coach. Norv's a lousy head coach, but he's a good OC and an even better QB coach.

Jensen 08-27-2006 12:42 PM

Too early to tell right now. Give him a year or two more and ask this question again.

sweetness34 08-27-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jensen
Too early to tell right now. Give him a year or two more and ask this question again.

I agree, the QB position is the hardest to judge because it usually takes a player a couple years before you can tell if he's going to be good or bad.

Peyton Manning wasn't good his rookie year, and look where he ended up. It just takes time for a QB to develop because it's a totally different game in the NFL. Faster, new defensive looks, more athletic, quicker decisions, better accuracy, etc...

I think Alex with be a very good QB, he was dynamite against our first team defense in their first preseason game. But it'll take some time.

S4L 08-27-2006 01:12 PM

No. He is still young, and like everyone has said, he needs some weapons around him. Vernon Davis is a start.

At least Smith's got a good head on his shoulders, unlike Ryan Leaf.

sweetness34 08-27-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelers4Life
No. He is still young, and like everyone has said, he needs some weapons around him. Vernon Davis is a start.

At least Smith's got a good head on his shoulders, unlike Ryan Leaf.

Amen to that...Or Cade McNown....

Shiver 08-27-2006 03:06 PM

So far Alex Smith has looked pretty good in the pre-season. The only thing holding him back is the learning curve from Shotgun offense to NFL offense is substantial.

energizerbunny 08-27-2006 03:36 PM

iam not sure you can even mention a 21 year old Quarterback being a bust.

08-27-2006 03:38 PM

i think he'll become a good solid starter but nothing spectacular.


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