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10-09-2006 03:34 AM

BCS Alternative
 
I am going to go with the 4 team tournament. Not too big, and it doesn't last that long. Keep in mind the players have finals and they don't need to endure a 3 week long playoff imo. I mean this is football, not basketball.

P-L 10-09-2006 09:59 AM

The 4 team playoff works the best. Keep the regular season at 11 games every year. Four non-conference games, 7 conference games. And allow for one championship game for the conferences that use them. This would create 13 games for two teams, and 12 for all other bowl teams. I mean most conferences play at least 13 games every four years I think it is. So I don't see it as a problem. They could rotate which "current BCS" Bowls are the semi-final game, and then keep the National Championship game. The Bowl system stays in tact, and we get a National Championship. Occasionally, we get only two undefeated teams but more times than not we get three undefeateds or one undefeated.

S4L 10-09-2006 10:41 AM

4 team playoff

When was the last time a CFB season had more than 4 undefeated teams. Sure, there would still be controversy over the #4 and #5 slots, but if the #5 team hadn't lost 1 (or 2) games, it wouldn't have mattered.

2005: USC, Texas, Penn State (1L), Ohio State (2L) or Oregon (1L)
2004: USC, OU, Auburn, Utah
2003: OU, USC (1L), LSU (1L), MICH (2L)

moc182 10-09-2006 10:52 AM

Plus one. It makes so much sense, and it would be so easy to do. The fact that this hasn't been put in place yet, and probably wont for the forseeable future is so frustrating.

achilles109 10-09-2006 03:08 PM

personaly i would love an 8 team playoff, but it just isnt fair... it gets freakin cold in the north and it would be like an away game to play them all in warmer places... the season needs to start much earlier to institute any playoff system.

moc182 10-09-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by achilles109
personaly i would love an 8 team playoff, but it just isnt fair... it gets freakin cold in the north and it would be like an away game to play them all in warmer places... the season needs to start much earlier to institute any playoff system.


Or they could just not have a month long break before the bowl games start. A 4 or 8 team playoff would be so easy to implement, but that's what happens when the people in charge don't have a clue what they're doing.

10-09-2006 03:24 PM

I like the 8 team playoff the best

Shane P. Hallam 10-09-2006 04:02 PM

The nice thing about the system is that we can argue over who should be in what position. It's sort of fun.

What would it have been last year? Who would have been the 4 teams?

P-L 10-09-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JBond93
The nice thing about the system is that we can argue over who should be in what position. It's sort of fun.

What would it have been last year? Who would have been the 4 teams?

Penn State, Notre Dame, Texas, USC.

Iamcanadian 10-12-2006 10:34 AM

You not going to see a playoff format for the forseeable future. The colleges will do nothing to wreck the financial bonanza that is the Bowl system. Playoffs are just a dream.
The NCAA is comitted to maximizing the profits for each conference and college. They no longer care who ends up National Champion. It is all about money and how much profit you can get out of paying players peanuts while receiving millions of dollars in revenue. It is much the same as pro sports, Before the unions the owners kept 99% of the profits and made hundreds of millions of dollars, today they are forced to share that income among their players. In college the players today get 1% of the profits and the colleges keep the other 99%.
Because the NCAA wants to keep the 1/99% ratio, they aren't going to do anything to change the status quo. The system stinks and is totally corrupt and the NCAA isn't going to want anybody to take a close look at it. So you are never going to see a playoff format in college football!

P-L 10-12-2006 10:36 AM

But a 4-team playoff (Or +1 system) does nothing to financially change the Bowl system.

Iamcanadian 10-12-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions
But a 4-team playoff (Or +1 system) does nothing to financially change the Bowl system.

Yes it does, it alters the perception of the other Bowls, making them far less in the opinion of viewers. The more games which involve teams trying for a NC, the less likely viewers are going to be inclined to watch the other Bowl games. Look at the NIT championship in basketball. It used to be a really major event, but today hardly anybody cares about who wins it because the college basketball March madness has relegated it to second class status and has stripped it of its financial impact.
Once you begin to stretch out the college NC process, it will become the only game in town and the rest of the Bowls will become insignificant. The major conferences and their schools would probably do all right financially but the rest would disappear into financial oblivion. That would really open up a can of worms within the NCAA and bring to the forfront the uglyness of the system and what goes on under the table. I don't think the NCAA wants to open that can of worms and will leave the BCS and the Bowl system as it is. It is all about money and little about caring about whose NC.

P-L 10-12-2006 11:37 AM

I still disagree. We'll use the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl for example. Let's say the Sugar Bowl uses #1 vs #4 and the Fiesta Bowl uses #2 vs #3. The BCS National Championship game would then use the winner of those two games. More than likely, those three games would be played on different days (Probably 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of January). Those three games will sellout, no doubt. But the Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl will sellout too. Kind of like how the National Championship game sells out, and the other BCS bowls already do too. With all the Bowls on different days, you really don't have to worry about viewers either. Viewers will not ignore the other two BCS Bowls, just like they don't ignore the non-National Championship Bowls now. I don't see how it really alters the perception. Going back to my example, I don't see how the Rose and Orange Bowls will be looked down upon any less than they already are now. People know that the non-NC BCS Bowls don't factor into the NC, yet people still watch them. All the non-BCS Bowls are looked as far less in the viewers eyes, yet people still watch them.

10-12-2006 01:09 PM

But the thing is...why can't you have the playoff games as bowl games as well.

For example, the semi finals are the rose/orange/fiesta/sugar bowl and the final championship is one of those four also. It sucks because one will be left out once every four years, but imo this is the best way to do it.

RyanLeaf#1 10-12-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms2Clayton
But the thing is...why can't you have the playoff games as bowl games as well.

For example, the semi finals are the rose/orange/fiesta/sugar bowl and the final championship is one of those four also. It sucks because one will be left out once every four years, but imo this is the best way to do it.

I totally agree keep the bowl names but have them as playoffs.

Shane P. Hallam 10-12-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond93
The nice thing about the system is that we can argue over who should be in what position. It's sort of fun.

What would it have been last year? Who would have been the 4 teams?

Penn State, Notre Dame, Texas, USC.

Is that really fair? What did ND win? Like, it just creates more controversy. I don't think there is a perfect solution. ND wasn't an undisputed 4 in polls...

achilles109 10-12-2006 04:45 PM

what about school? they have to go to college...

Windy 10-12-2006 10:22 PM

I like big playoff formats

richdg 10-13-2006 09:53 PM

Ok, let's go through this again. D-IA is the only level without a playoff. D-IAA, DII, and DIII all have one. So it can be done. One of the main reasons for not having one, is "the number os games". So what did the NCAA do this year? Make everyone play 12 reg. season games. Plus Conf. champs, plus a bowl game. That is 14 games. Stupid. If you put every D-IA team into 8 conferences, you can keep every team at 10 games. The 8 Conf. Champs. will replace the 8 smaller bowls. Then take the 8 champs plus the next 8 teams an put them into a tourny. 2 teams will play 15 games. This allows for great non-conference matchups like Texas-OSU. If 1 loss is going to knock you out of NC contention, nobody will play these great games. That would be a major loss.

BrownsTown 10-13-2006 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JBond93
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond93
The nice thing about the system is that we can argue over who should be in what position. It's sort of fun.

What would it have been last year? Who would have been the 4 teams?

Penn State, Notre Dame, Texas, USC.

Is that really fair? What did ND win? Like, it just creates more controversy. I don't think there is a perfect solution. ND wasn't an undisputed 4 in polls...

OSU was 4 in the polls, actually, BCS and AP.

dcrls 12-27-2006 11:20 PM

neither. i mean sure the BCS has screwed up sometimes, but the whole regular season in college football is like a playoff, if you lose 2 games you dont have a chance to get in the national championship.

iworshipbender 12-27-2006 11:31 PM

i say have 12 weeks of regular season, then all the bowl games in one week, then have a 16 (4 weeks) or 32 (5 weeks) team playoff

dcrls 12-28-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamcanadian
You not going to see a playoff format for the forseeable future. The colleges will do nothing to wreck the financial bonanza that is the Bowl system. Playoffs are just a dream.
The NCAA is comitted to maximizing the profits for each conference and college. They no longer care who ends up National Champion. It is all about money and how much profit you can get out of paying players peanuts while receiving millions of dollars in revenue. It is much the same as pro sports, Before the unions the owners kept 99% of the profits and made hundreds of millions of dollars, today they are forced to share that income among their players. In college the players today get 1% of the profits and the colleges keep the other 99%.
Because the NCAA wants to keep the 1/99% ratio, they aren't going to do anything to change the status quo. The system stinks and is totally corrupt and the NCAA isn't going to want anybody to take a close look at it. So you are never going to see a playoff format in college football!


i couldn't agree more. looks like you know your stuff. a playoff is a far fetched dream of college football fans

dcrls 12-28-2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by iworshipbender
i say have 12 weeks of regular season, then all the bowl games in one week, then have a 16 (4 weeks) or 32 (5 weeks) team playoff

21 or 22 week reg season in college football?????????
no way :roll:

your crazy man

iworshipbender 12-28-2006 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dcrls
Quote:

Originally Posted by iworshipbender
i say have 12 weeks of regular season, then all the bowl games in one week, then have a 16 (4 weeks) or 32 (5 weeks) team playoff

21 or 22 week reg season in college football?????????
no way :roll:

your crazy man

no genius 12 weeks in reg then have the extra weeks for the post season, it would be around 16 or 17 total weeks including post season :roll:


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