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LonghornsLegend 10-24-2006 06:24 PM

Jay Cutler to start?
 
everyone said it was no way in hell he would see the field this season if not for injury, well its beginning to look more and more like he will see the field soon....word broke he may get a shot this past sunday but didnt, and they are starting plummer week 8, now ive heard week 9 he will take over....


i for one didnt think it was possible, but they said shannahan doesnt think he has much of a chance to win a super bowl being at the bottom of the league in passing offense, and plummer has been stinking it up in most passing categories....


now that were here, do you think he will end up being the starter soon, and will he do well when he takes over....

LonghornsLegend 10-24-2006 06:26 PM

Source: RotoWorld

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Jake Plummer helped save Mike Shanahan's post-John Elway career. After missing the playoffs three times in four seasons, the Mastermind was desperate for a quarterback who he could win with. For all of Plummer's faults, winning in the regular season hasn't been a problem. The Broncos have made the playoffs all three seasons under Plummer, including an 18-4 mark since the start of 2005.

Shanahan partially owns his bullet-proof job security to Plummer, and that's why he's waited this long. That's why Plummer will get at least one more shot, against the Colts, to save his job.

Shanahan let it be known after Week 2 that Plummer would only be removed if he "implodes or gets hurt." After four more starts, Plummers' statistics look like an implosion. He's 32nd in the league in yards-per-attempt, barely ahead of rookies Vince Young, Bruce Gradkowski, and another veteran coach-killer, Steve McNair. The Broncos are 31st in the league in points scored. Mike Shanahan has never coached a team outside the top 18. By Monday's press conference, Shanahan would only say that Plummer was his quarterback – for this week.

It's pretty rare that a Super Bowl contender removes their starting quarterback for a rookie in the middle of a season. Perhaps Shanahan knows, better than anyone, his team has no chance to make the big game with Jake Plummer playing like this.

Jay Cutler, Broncos - The legend of Jay Cutler was created sometime between NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock's first fawning report and the widely circulated news that the Vanderbilt grad was the number one player on Denver's entire board. A boffo preseason did nothing to diminish Cutler's rising star. He is Denver's 2007 starting quarterback.

I think he'll be Denver's quarterback by Week 9 because Plummer has shown no ability to snap out of his 2006 funk. Shanahan can't tolerate a 52.1% completion percentage much longer.

slightlyaraiderfan 10-24-2006 06:27 PM

Cutler can't start, Plummer is going to take them to the Super Bowl!!! woo

Basileus777 10-24-2006 06:40 PM

Cutler should be starting, but Plummer won't be benched unless the Broncos start losing games.

Staubach12 10-24-2006 06:40 PM

If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

manning18 10-24-2006 06:42 PM

I think he could play better than Plummer is right now but I don't think they should risk it and I really doubt they put him in.

Basileus777 10-24-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Staubach12
If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

That sounds about right and thats exactly why they should start him. Plummer is just terrible with the exception of a few plays. Only the Raiders have scored less points than the Broncos, and most of that is on Plummer. The Broncos won't win a Superbowl with the 31st scoring offense, even with that excellent defense. At this point Cutler can't do much worse than Plummer. Plummer is playing like a rookie without the upside or talent that Cutler has.

Shiver 10-24-2006 06:56 PM

Like the Arizona and Tennessee situations, there is no way Jay Cutler could be any worse. Plus he'd have a very favorable situation to succeed in.

10-24-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver
Like the Arizona and Tennessee situations, there is no way Jay Cutler could be any worse. Plus he'd have a very favorable situation to succeed in.

I concur. And IMO he has a better setup on offense than Leinart. aka running game.

soybean 10-24-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver
Like the Arizona and Tennessee situations, there is no way Jay Cutler could be any worse. Plus he'd have a very favorable situation to succeed in.

of course, but the broncos have something to play for and something to lose too. cardinals and titans have nothing to lose but so much to gain.

Shiver 10-24-2006 07:18 PM

Jake Plummer is going to keep their team from a Super Bowl, plain and simple. The Broncos are destined to a great regular season record, and quit and abrupt exit in the playoffs.

Namy 10-24-2006 07:33 PM

IMO Cutler >>> Plummer even now. Even tho it was presseason, his passing ability and mainly POISE was phenomenal. However, Shannahan will not remove him until we start losing. The media likes to brew up QB controversies, but this is not one of em... at least not til Plummer actually loses game b/c of his passing incompetence.

njx9 10-24-2006 07:48 PM

there is ZERO chance cutler will start until denver literally loses games because of their offense.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4539450

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Shanahan said Monday he did not talk to the ESPN reporter last week.
or maybe

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Shana- han said at his news briefing Monday. "I'm not going to tell you if it was offensive guard, defensive tackle....I will tell you this - Jake Plummer will be our quarterback against Indy."
whatever anyone thinks of plummer's lack of ability (and anyone who's been here for more than 6 months knows i hate plummer), he'll be the starter until shanahan believes we're losing games because of him. that's not happening so far and looks unlikely to start anytime soon.

Shiver 10-24-2006 08:18 PM

It's not going to happen, but it should.

smittyjs 10-24-2006 08:35 PM

Cutler should be starting

M.O.T.H. 10-24-2006 08:45 PM

Cutler should not be starting, last time I checked the Broncos were 5-1. Regardless of Plummer's numbers, you do not mess with success.

Shiver 10-24-2006 08:48 PM

I think the same argument was made regarding the Bears last year. :roll:


"they should stick with Orton!"

njx9 10-24-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
Cutler should not be starting, last time I checked the Broncos were 5-1. Regardless of Plummer's numbers, you do not mess with success.

that's ridiculous. NONE of that has to do with plummer. he has made us a WORSE team. i don't care if you're 16-0, if a part of the team is awful and really couldn't get much worse, you replace it. anyone who thinks this denver team could compete in the playoffs right now is kidding themselves and it all start with jake.

M.O.T.H. 10-24-2006 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9
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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
Cutler should not be starting, last time I checked the Broncos were 5-1. Regardless of Plummer's numbers, you do not mess with success.

that's ridiculous. NONE of that has to do with plummer. he has made us a WORSE team. i don't care if you're 16-0, if a part of the team is awful and really couldn't get much worse, you replace it. anyone who thinks this denver team could compete in the playoffs right now is kidding themselves and it all start with jake.

Who cares, if your winning your winning. You pull the plug on Plummer and the season may fall apart, things like this happen in sports all the time. Yes it is very cliche but, it's true, you do not mess with success.

BrownsTown 10-24-2006 09:03 PM

What are they, 5-1? You don't give up on a season like that by changing your QB. You won't go 5-1 with a rookie QB.

Denver Bronco99 10-24-2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Staubach12
If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

no offence...but cutler is better then romo by far

BrownsTown 10-24-2006 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver Bronco56
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Originally Posted by Staubach12
If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

no offence...but cutler is more overrated then romo by far


M.O.T.H. 10-24-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver Bronco56
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Originally Posted by Staubach12
If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

no offence...but cutler is better then romo by far

How do you know that? Romo played better than Mr. Cutler in the preseason and I dont think Cutler has thrown a single meaningful pass.

njx9 10-24-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
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Originally Posted by njx9
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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
Cutler should not be starting, last time I checked the Broncos were 5-1. Regardless of Plummer's numbers, you do not mess with success.

that's ridiculous. NONE of that has to do with plummer. he has made us a WORSE team. i don't care if you're 16-0, if a part of the team is awful and really couldn't get much worse, you replace it. anyone who thinks this denver team could compete in the playoffs right now is kidding themselves and it all start with jake.

Who cares, if your winning your winning. You pull the plug on Plummer and the season may fall apart, things like this happen in sports all the time. Yes it is very cliche but, it's true, you do not mess with success.

how does anything on offense get any worse? seriously, we've got the league's worst offense. plummer is so inept, he makes bledsoe look like john elway. NOTHING CAN GET WORSE. no one's messing with the defense which, if you've been paying attention, is the only reason denver's 5-1.

someone tell me how denver could possibly be WORSE on offense with cutler starting. seriously, try. and don't just give me hypothetical nonsense. look at the numbers, then tell me how any quarterback could be worse than plummer.

Denver Bronco99 10-24-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
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Originally Posted by Denver Bronco56
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Originally Posted by Staubach12
If he starts it will be a Romo-like performance. Great with the exception of a few plays.

no offence...but cutler is better then romo by far

How do you know that? Romo played better than Mr. Cutler in the preseason and I dont think Cutler has thrown a single meaningful pass.


One romo looked like jake plummer in his debut....Cutler is more talented(1st round pick), and i bet when he starts he will play better then romo


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