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steel man 11-28-2006 01:52 PM

Would you trade Randy Moss for Matt Schaub?
 
would this be a good trade for both teams or which team would come out the best?

if i remember right Randy Moss wanted to go play with Vick before he was traded to Oakland.

Part b: or would Jerry Porter be a better trade and if so for which team?

bigbluedefense 11-28-2006 02:05 PM

I haven't seen enough of Shaub to warrant that trade yet. I think Atlanta will never get 1st round value for Shaub. If anything, maybe his stock has slipped a little since last year. I see him going for a 2nd rounder, nothing more. Not unless they give him some playing time this year, he does real well, and then they offer him in trades. Thats the only way his stock can rise up high enough to warrant a 1st round value WR like Moss.

Jughead10 11-28-2006 02:07 PM

Not sure Davis would want to trade for Schaub. He loves guys with a big arm. That not Matt.

Shiver 11-28-2006 02:09 PM

That's all we need, another receiver who drops an inordinate amount of passes. Randy Moss hasn't been, well, Randy Moss since '03!

tom 11-28-2006 02:19 PM

trade him for vick

MaxV 11-28-2006 02:37 PM

It would be a BIG mistake for the Falcons to trade for Moss.

Atlanta is a Run-oriented offense and Moss would be pissed off all the time because he's not getting the ball.

keylime_5 11-28-2006 02:43 PM

Randy Moss would still be an All-Pro if he had a good offense around him like say Philly (with mcnabb), Indy, New England, etc. I don't think Matt Schaub's gonna be that great, but you'll never know until he gets the hell outta Atlanta

Cavalier17 11-28-2006 02:52 PM

Moss is a selfish pos, imo. He wants stats and has no regard for a "team effort". Get his and Porter's asses out of there and get whatever you can, whether that be Schaub or some draft picks.

11-28-2006 03:04 PM

Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

draftguru151 11-28-2006 03:06 PM

Randy Moss for Joey, lets do it.

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Windy 11-28-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub looked pretty good during that game but he doesnt warrant a 1st rounder like people were saying last year

11-28-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub looked pretty good during that game but he doesnt warrant a 1st rounder like people were saying last year

I don't think so either but I do think he warrants a high 2nd rounder though. Apparently some team thought he was worth a first though because the Falcons claimed they had that kind of offer for him.

draftguru151 11-28-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.

Windy 11-28-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

It was 3 tds but that still is solid

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by draftguru151
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.

Come on now. Throwing for 3 TDs is something a QB should do a little more commonly than have a running back rush for 4.

11-28-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.

The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.

tom 11-28-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by draftguru151
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.

Yeah, it actually is a pretty good argument, coz I think Addai is as good as LT.

Basileus777 11-28-2006 03:14 PM

Derrick Blaylock had 4 tds in one half against the Falcons once, by your logic he is clearly a future star running back.

11-28-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by draftguru151
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.

Come on now. Throwing for 3 TDs is something a QB should do a little more commonly than have a running back rush for 4.

Tom Brady, the 2nd best QB in the league, has only done it 7 times the last 3 years. That's about twice a season. It's not like that is something that is expected every game.

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.

The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.

I know that the topic of the thread but thats not what I responded to. I responded to you saying that anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves. Well they might be closer than you would think. I agree he shouldn't be traded for a player the caliber of Moss.

Jughead10 11-28-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777
Derrick Blaylock had 4 tds in one half against the Falcons once, by your logic he is clearly a future star running back.

Not quite. Again a QB throwing for 3 TDs is something that is a little more common thatn a RB rushing for 4. The bottom line is that Vick a former #1 overall pick took forever to even accomplish something that isn't even that great of an achievement. He isn't a good passer. Schaub is better at delivering the ball to a reciever. Thats all.

11-28-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by cardsalltheway
Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.

Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?

Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?

Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.

The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.

I know that the topic of the thread but thats not what I responded to. I responded to you saying that anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves. Well they might be closer than you would think. I agree he shouldn't be traded for a player the caliber of Moss.

Vick is considered a top 10 QB by a lot of people and is definitely in the top half of the league. Schaub had one good game two years ago and other than that has not played well in his limited opportunities. I just don't put a lot of faith inone game wonders.


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