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Old 12-12-2008, 06:29 PM    (permalink
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We have 2 situations here, if we do make the playoffs we get a higher pick where I can see us getting Duke and the other situation we get the early pick. I dont see us really needing because of the positions we need and no one there is worth picking that early. Like i said in the other thread we could trade back acquire more picks and pick up Duke or Rey. I kinda hope we dont make the playoffs because Honestly I dont see us getting past the wild card, games where we are on point and than games where we just plain out get worked on both sides of the field, inconsistent.

What do you think about both situations?
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What about Safety? If Taylor Mays is available, I don't see how AJ can justify passing on him. He's got the physical gifts to justify a 1st round pick, and it addresses a severe, severe need. Mays is the best coverage safety in the nation.
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What about Safety? If Taylor Mays is available, I don't see how AJ can justify passing on him. He's got the physical gifts to justify a 1st round pick, and it addresses a severe, severe need. Mays is the best coverage safety in the nation.
Funny how when this was posted (2008) that was his Rep, since then his Jr and Senior seasons have shown otherwise. I hope he falls to us, he could be the enforcer we have missed since Harrison left.
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Funny how when this was posted (2008) that was his Rep, since then his Jr and Senior seasons have shown otherwise. I hope he falls to us, he could be the enforcer we have missed since Harrison left.
I still like TM and think he'll be a steal for someone. Problem is I like KE quite a bit as well and Weddle had a very good season last year. Still, I wouldn't mind TM but I hope the running game (OL + RB) gets addressed soon after, and that takes alot of options off of the table at DL too. Now, say we go back one year and Taylor comes out as a junior, would I have wanted him over English? Yes and I think he would have really done a solid job for us. But in hindsight RB and OL should have been addressed last year too. I don't like Vasquez, fwiw.
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Funny how when this was posted (2008) that was his Rep, since then his Jr and Senior seasons have shown otherwise. I hope he falls to us, he could be the enforcer we have missed since Harrison left.
Just goes to show how much the system you're in can affect your draft stock. When they asked Taylor to step into a new defense last year and took him out of the deep cover 1, he didn't look so hot. Especially once you throw in the leg injuries he was dealing with.

Mays is actually the only non DL/RB I'd be 100% okay with at 28. Weddle is the perfect safety to pair him with, our D needs to get some of that ferociousness back, and the plummeting draft stock is practically bandwagon at this point. He is a first rounder and is going to have a great career at safety, so if the Chargers can somehow take advantage of him falling I'd be thrilled.

I'm still high on Dwyer and go back and forth on Cody...looking at the last 11 games of the year in 2009, the rotation on the D-line performed pretty damn well, and I'm counting on further development from OG and Vaughn Martin.

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chargers need to fix the defense 1st. i wouldnt mind if we went NG then safety 2nd round " nate allen "

Right tackle has to be up there in needs but that can be found in round 4 on. RB is the position that confuses me with us. Do we go RB early "round 1 or 2" or wait till the later rounds? Everyone seems to be on the Ryan Matthews bandwagon. I for one like him as a player but not over a player like Jonathan Dwyer who we could probably trade up for in the 3rd round.
Intruiging draft since we have all of our EARLY picks for once.
also could you see us trading for a vet RB ? like a Marion Barber or Lendale White. sorry i rant on, i can talk about the draft for days
I'm excited about even the tiniest possibility that Ronnie Brown is available, per a Yahoo article the other day. He or Marshawn Lynch for a third or later (definitely later for Lynch...) would give us a ton of options on draft day. I don't see us picking up Barber or White over some of the late round goodness at RB this draft has to offer.

It will definitley be weird having a 2nd rounder, and a high second no less. It's been years.

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Mathews will be solid, I LOVE the pick of the ILB, he is going to be a starter for this team, by 2011 at the latest!!! Stuckey will give serious competition to Ellison and could start, and Cam Thomas could be a difference maker for this teams run D.

If you can come away with 4 starters, even if a couple break in in year 2...it has to be a success.
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Yeah but id like to get more picks since we have so many needs.
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Yeah but id like to get more picks since we have so many needs.

I would too, but I don't want to bypass good players. Lets look at the situation.


Right now, I say they finish 7-9. We will either lose Sunday or at Tampa and beat Denver assuming they rest key players. That would net something like the #12-15 pick.

To me, that seems like a prime spot for lots of defensive talent - players like Orakpo, Hardy, Marks and both 1st round safeties are available in Wright's mock (and it's still early, really early). I could see any of those guys fitting into the system.

Back in 2003 the Chargers made a big mistake in trading down from #15 to #30 and in doing so, missed out of Troy Polamalu in favor of Davis, Florence, and Kiel, none of whom are still on the team.

Say the Chargers lose two games, that would put them, probably in the back end of the top 10. Now I'm starting to agree, that this is somewhat of a no-mans land. Problem is, I don't think teams would jump at the oportunity to move up to #9 or #10 when all the top offensive lineman and QB's will probably be gone.

If they tank and lose out, definitely get out of that slot (although wouldn't Smith or Oher make it interesting? McNeill could maybe play RT)
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Yeah we had so many options this year and who knows what AJ will do but I trust he will make the right decision. And back to the safety issue brings me back to last year when i really want to draft Kenny Phillips and we draft Cason, Im not saying Cason was a bad pick but that Kenny Phillips pick wouldve solved the problem we have right now. But thats just me ranting :p
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He's relatively unknown amongst the casual football fans but Syracuse Jr DT Arthur Jones would be a perfect fit in San Diego in the first round. Right now he's considered to be a late 1st round pick if he declared and I feel with good workouts he could move up a bit and be the 3-4 DE the defense is really needing right now
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Just looked him up, listed at 6'4 291. He can gain weight but I have my eye on Ron Brace if he can fall to us in later rounds.

Ron Brace 6'3 324
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Just looked him up, listed at 6'4 291. He can gain weight but I have my eye on Ron Brace if he can fall to us in later rounds.

Ron Brace 6'3 324
6'4" 291 is perfect for a 3-4 DE especially with the assignments San Diego gives them. To me, Arthur Jones is a Luis Castillo clone which would be perfect for the Chargers. I think all of the issues at MLB would be solved with an upgrade at DE.

Ron Brace is entirely too big to play DE for the Chargers. The Chargers like to get some pass rush from their 3-4 DEs.
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oh my bad i was reading it wrong i thought you got him to be out NT
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I would like to either get either Raji, Mays/Moore, or maybe a LB.

Really depends on how we do this week vs. Denver...
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I think that we should consider Phil Loadholt as a possibility. McNeil and Loadholt for the next decade protecting Rivers would be pretty sweet. Also, I agree that BJ Raji would help giving JWilliams a rest because our defense suffered at the beginning of the season when he was banged up. The 34 nose is the most important position on the field. There are a ton of possibilities for us this year because it is a year devoid of skill position players and loaded with LBs, OLs, DLs, and S.
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I think that we should consider Phil Loadholt as a possibility. McNeil and Loadholt for the next decade protecting Rivers would be pretty sweet. Also, I agree that BJ Raji would help giving JWilliams a rest because our defense suffered at the beginning of the season when he was banged up. The 34 nose is the most important position on the field. There are a ton of possibilities for us this year because it is a year devoid of skill position players and loaded with LBs, OLs, DLs, and S.
Do the Chargers have a 2nd round pick this year? I can't remember if they traded it already. If so It'd be an interesting possibility. Although the staff is very happy about Clary at RT for some reason.
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I think that we should consider Phil Loadholt as a possibility. McNeil and Loadholt for the next decade protecting Rivers would be pretty sweet. Also, I agree that BJ Raji would help giving JWilliams a rest because our defense suffered at the beginning of the season when he was banged up. The 34 nose is the most important position on the field. There are a ton of possibilities for us this year because it is a year devoid of skill position players and loaded with LBs, OLs, DLs, and S.
I definitely do not want Loadholt. His quickness is way below average for the NFL. If we thought Marcus McNeil and Clary struggled with the Mathis/Freeney, wait until you see Loadholt against those speed types from Indy, or Derrick Burgess, or any other flexible speed rushers around the AFC.

I still want a safety first and foremost, but it looks like Mays will be long gone now. He seems primed to go in the top 10, and if he falls, I bet the Broncos take him just so that he doesn't fall to #16. I don't like Moore that much, and it seems high for Rashad Johnson. I'd rather take someone like Courtney Greene in round 3 and let him compete with Gregory or Oliver.

I think getting OL help is more likely, or (hopefully) DL help, namely someone who can play 3-4 DE and rush the passer. I'm not worried about Jamal yet. He is playing as well as he ever has and those huge 350 pounders can sometimes last for a while - see Ted Washington and Pat Williams. However I wouldn't be surprised if we took a RB in round one and nobody should be. Sproles looks like he's gone. I don't see any way he turns down the opportunity to start, if it presents itself. I don't like it, but it might be Moreno at #16. I'd rather have Donald Brown, Jeremiah Johnson, or Shonn Green later in the draft, but I really have a bad feeling it could be Moreno at #16.

But if the Chargers somehow make the Superbowl and are picking at #31 or #32.... great! Party time! I won't give a damn who A.J. takes. He could take Chase Daniel to play backup FB with pick #32 and I wouldn't care.
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I like Raji the most right now because good NT's are so rare. The last good one to come out of the draft was Wilfork in '04. I think we can get a good RT later in the draft. I don't think LB is a huge concern but I agree that safety is. I also think we have to draft a HB fairly high.
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I definitely do not want Loadholt. His quickness is way below average for the NFL. If we thought Marcus McNeil and Clary struggled with the Mathis/Freeney, wait until you see Loadholt against those speed types from Indy, or Derrick Burgess, or any other flexible speed rushers around the AFC.

I think getting OL help is more likely, or (hopefully) DL help, namely someone who can play 3-4 DE and rush the passer. I'm not worried about Jamal yet. He is playing as well as he ever has and those huge 350 pounders can sometimes last for a while - see Ted Washington and Pat Williams. However I wouldn't be surprised if we took a RB in round one and nobody should be. Sproles looks like he's gone. I don't see any way he turns down the opportunity to start, if it presents itself. I don't like it, but it might be Moreno at #16. I'd rather have Donald Brown, Jeremiah Johnson, or Shonn Green later in the draft, but I really have a bad feeling it could be Moreno at #16.
After watching Loadholt against Florida I tend to agree with you; but this seems to be a year where Oline and DLine are very deep. I haven't considered taking a RB in the first but that is a very deep position this year and AJ has shown that he is willing to take the best player on the board regardless of position ( See Cromartie, Antonio and Cason, Antoine). At this point the only 1st rounder he has whiffed on seems to be Craig "BUSTer" Davis. Having 2 RBs is the sexy thing to do now; but I do hope that it will later rather than earlier. AJ and the late great John Butler have selected two impact in the 4th round so hopefully we can wait and find another diamond in the rough. James Davis or "Shady" McCoy? Possibly Javon Ringer?
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After watching Loadholt against Florida I tend to agree with you; but this seems to be a year where Oline and DLine are very deep. I haven't considered taking a RB in the first but that is a very deep position this year and AJ has shown that he is willing to take the best player on the board regardless of position ( See Cromartie, Antonio and Cason, Antoine). At this point the only 1st rounder he has whiffed on seems to be Craig "BUSTer" Davis. Having 2 RBs is the sexy thing to do now; but I do hope that it will later rather than earlier. AJ and the late great John Butler have selected two impact in the 4th round so hopefully we can wait and find another diamond in the rough. James Davis or "Shady" McCoy? Possibly Javon Ringer?
I was thinking the same thing
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I think one of our biggest concerns is at MLB and i think that there is to much tallent in this draft to not go there the first round then we could go with someone like Tutou from oregon. I think it would also be a great move to trade oakland for Michael bush. I think he is the type of guy we need in our backfield to wear down defenders.
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We traded our 2nd away for Jacob Hester last year....
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Who should the San Diego Chargers go after? I think the San Diego Chargers biggest needs are running back, safety and linebacker. what do you think we need and who should we go after? I think we should resign Sproles and Meriman

Round 1: Knowshown Moreno
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I think Knowshown Moreno would be perfect splitting carries with Sproles, do you think he is worth a first round pick for us?
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Round 1: Sintim
2a: Britt
2b: BPA, preferably a DE
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If you were the Arizona Cardinals, you'd draft Kenny Britt. :D

But that aside, would he really fit a need seeing as how they have Antonio Gates and Vincent Jackson?
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