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Old 12-29-2008, 04:09 PM    (permalink
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Thumbs down My Skill Player Rankings for the 2008 NFL Season

QB
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Philip Rivers
4. Jay Cutler
5. Matt Ryan
6. Chad Pennington
7. Eli Manning
8. Aaron Rodgers
9. Ben Rothelisberger
10. Tony Romo
11. Matt Schuab
12. Kurt Warner
13. Jason Campbell
14. Kerry Collins
15. David Garrard
HB
1. Deangelo Williams
2. Brandon Jacobs
3. Clinton Portis
4. Michael Turner
5. Adrian Peterson
6. Thomas Jones
7. Chris Johnson
8. Steve Slaton
9. Ronnie Brown
10. Brian Westbrook
11. Derrick Ward
12. Pierre Thomas
13. Sammy Morris
14. Frank Gore
15. Johnathan Stewart

WR
1. Andre Johnson
2. Steve Smith
3. Larry Fitsgerald
4. Roddy White
5. Randy Moss
6. Reggie Wayne
7. Hines Ward
8. Calvin Johnson
9. Anquan Boldin
10. Terrel Owens
11. Vincent Jackson
12. Antonio Bryant
13. Derrick Mason
14. Greg Jennings
15. T.J Houshmandzadeh
TE
1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Jason Witten
3. Dallas Clark
4. Visantie Shancoe
5. Owen Daniels
6. Antonio Gates
7. Heath Miller
8. Chris Cooley
9. Tony Schleffler
10. John Carlson
Feel free to put up your own rankings.
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i cant take any of this serious if you don't have westbrook as a top 15 rb
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i cant take any of this serious if you don't have westbrook as a top 15 rb
What, you're not a Sammy Morris believer?
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David Garrard is underrated. He has no wideouts but he's a pretty damn good QB, people rag on him for not completing deep balls but it's because all of his receivers are completely inept at catching and drop easy balls continuously. I mean for pete sakes his most consistent wideout is Dennis Northcut. Also don't understand the Chris Cooley hate. He keeps the chains moving. He is 3rd in the NFL in first down catches.
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Dwayne Bowe.............
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i cant take any of this serious if you don't have westbrook as a top 15 rb
I cant take it serious if Adrian Peterson isnt 1 or 2.
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I cant take it serious if Adrian Peterson isnt 1 or 2.
You mean the Adrian Peterson with 8 fumbles.
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You mean the Adrian Peterson with 8 fumbles.
It's true, in Madden he would get the dreaded "Fumble Prone" label. That's not enough to knock him out of the top 4 in real life though.
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It's true, in Madden he would get the dreaded "Fumble Prone" label. That's not enough to knock him out of the top 4 in real life though.
Out of my top 4 who would you take out?
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You mean the Adrian Peterson with 8 fumbles.
I mean 1700+ rushing yards carry his team on his back Adrian Peterson.
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Ok, call me a homer. But. Vincent Jackson over Greg Jennings? Why?

What exactly makes Hines Ward a better reciever than Calvin, Jennings, or Boldin?!? Think you have him a bit overrated to say the least.

Why did you spell Matt Cassel in the form of Jason Campbell? Talk about typo.

The RB list is crazy talk. Give me this guy Steven Jackson who ran for 4.1 yards/carry behind the STL line over Derrick Ward, Pierre Thomas, or Sammy Morris (wtf, top 15??!).
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Pierre Thomas and Sammy Morris over Marion Barber and Brian Westbrook, Tony G over Witten, Visanthe Shianco over Cooley, Adrian Peterson as only #5. Do not like this list, and I'd like to see some justifications for the rankings.
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Pierre Thomas and Sammy Morris over Marion Barber and Brian Westbrook, Tony G over Witten, Visanthe Shianco over Cooley, Adrian Peterson as only #5. Do not like this list, and I'd like to see some justifications for the rankings.
I am ranking how well players played this season with past performances not considered.
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Shiancoe over anyone = fail

Adrian Peterson under 4 other guys = fail

Because I am a homer those are the only things I noticed.
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I could be blind but I didn't see Matt Forte in your HB's. And who is Larry Fitsgerald?
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I could be blind but I didn't see Matt Forte in your HB's. And who is Larry Fitsgerald?
Not really sure. You mean Larry Fitzgerald? ;)
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Quarterbacks
1.Peyton Manning
2.Phillip Rivers
3.Drew Brees
4.Jay Cutler
5.Eli Manning
6.Matt Cassel
7.Chad Pennington
8.Ben Rothelisburger
9.Aaron Rodgers
10.Matt Ryan

Running Backs
1.Deangelo Williams
2.Adrian Peterson
3.Brian Westbrook
4.Micheal Turner
5.Ronnie Brown
6.Clinton Portis
7.Brandon Jacobs
8.Thomas Jones
9.Marion Barber
10.Chris Johnson

Wide Receiver
1.Andre Johnson
2.Larry Fitzgerald
3.Calvin Johnson
4.Steve Smith
5.Brandon Marshall
6.Anquan Boldin
7.Reggie Wayne
8.Hines Ward
9.Greg Jennings
10.Wes Welker
11.Derrick Mason
12.Roddy White
13.T.J. Houshmandzadeh
14.Vincent Jackson


Tight Ends
1.Tony Gonzalez
2.Dallas Clark
3.Jason Witten
4.Antonio Gates
5.Owen Daniels
6.Visanthe Shiancoe
7.Chris Cooley
8.John Carlson
9.Bo Scaife
10.Anthony Fasano

Thats my list i would like to know your guys opinions on that
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Quarterbacks
1.Peyton Manning
2.Phillip Rivers
3.Drew Brees
4.Jay Cutler
5.Eli Manning
6.Matt Cassel
7.Chad Pennington
8.Ben Rothelisburger
9.Aaron Rodgers
10.Matt Ryan

Running Backs
1.Deangelo Williams
2.Adrian Peterson
3.Brian Westbrook
4.Micheal Turner
5.Ronnie Brown
6.Clinton Portis
7.Brandon Jacobs
8.Thomas Jones
9.Marion Barber
10.Chris Johnson

Wide Receiver
1.Andre Johnson
2.Larry Fitzgerald
3.Calvin Johnson
4.Steve Smith
5.Brandon Marshall
6.Anquan Boldin
7.Reggie Wayne
8.Hines Ward
9.Greg Jennings
10.Wes Welker
11.Derrick Mason
12.Roddy White
13.T.J. Houshmandzadeh
14.Vincent Jackson


Tight Ends
1.Tony Gonzalez
2.Dallas Clark
3.Jason Witten
4.Antonio Gates
5.Owen Daniels
6.Visanthe Shiancoe
7.Chris Cooley
8.John Carlson
9.Bo Scaife
10.Anthony Fasano

Thats my list i would like to know your guys opinions on that

These seem like pretty good lists, I would probably swap Fitz and Andre but that's splitting hairs.
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Where are the real skill players?
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Not sure Marion Barber belongs over Chris Johnson or Matt Forte this year but otherwise it didn't seem too bad.
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How do you have Sammy Morris and Jonathon Stewart over Matt Forte if you are just basing it off this year?
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1. Drew Brees
2. Philip Rivers
3. Kurt Warner
4. Peyton Manning
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Tony Romo
7. Jay Cutler
8. Donovan McNabb
9. Matt Cassel
10. Chad Pennington

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1. DeAngelo Williams
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Michael Turner
4. Thomas Jones
5. Brandon Jacobs
6. Chris Johnson
7. Steve Slaton
8. Matt Forte
9. Steven Jackson
10. Frank Gore

WR
1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Andre Johnson
4. Steve Smith
5. Anquan Boldin
6. Greg Jennings
7. Roddy White
8. Antonio Bryant
9. Terrell Owens
10. Brandon Marshall

TE
1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Dallas Clark
3. Jason Witten
4. Antonio Gates
5. Owen Daniels
6. Chris Cooley
7. John Carlson
8. Zach Miller
9. Greg Olsen
10. Dustin Keller
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Ah no. All three of them had better seasons than Peyton Manning.
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Ah no. All three of them had better seasons than Peyton Manning.
Seems like you're the only one here that thinks that, and I think that opinion might be based more off one game than anything.
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