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Old 04-27-2009, 01:27 AM    (permalink
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So things have gotten pretty ugly in Mexico. The swine flu, which originally was a small virus in Mexico City, has now spread all across the country, had taken 81 lives (minimum), has infected around 1,500, and none of these diagnosed people has been cured.

The virus has also been found in Texas, California, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Kansas, Canada, France, Australia, New Zealand, and Israel, and has claimed lives in San Diego, Texas, and around five cities in Mexico.

Here's a map that is updated every couple of minutes, and it shows the locations of people diagnosed with the virus: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...,88.330078&z=4

The exact nature of the virus has yet to be identified, and a cure has yet to be created. The World Health Organization has stated that the influenza will be impossible to contain.

In my hometown of San Pedro (right beside Monterrey in northern Mexico), schools have been shut down until further notice. The government has shut down businesses such as discos and cinemas. We can't go to theaters to watch plays. Elections are coming up in July and the majority of political events have been canceled. No crowds are allowed to attend sport events. Those who have tickets get a full refund. Even churches have been closed down and entrance is prohibited by the government.

A woman from my hometown was diagnosed with the virus, and in less than a week she passed away. In a span of five hours, ten new cases appeared, and all show the same symptoms.

I was wondering if any of you know something about the virus, like scientifically. I've tried to look into it, but can't seem to find a lot. The border with the US is supposedly going to close in less than a week, so were practically stranded here. Is anybody here studying to become a doctor or something? I'm searching for medications and treatment for any type of influenza, to use it as precaution. I've looked for things in forums and stuff, by I only find complicated medical lingo that I can't comprehend. The way the disease spreads has not been found out yet, but researchers believe it could be airborne. That's why I want to know if there's some kind of shot or something that I could take.

I really need some help with this. I know it might sound kind of desperate, but things are worsening as each hour goes by and both the government and scientists are keeping everybody in the dark. No progress has been made, and to top things off the World Health Organization recently stated that containing the virus is almost impossible. They have loaned Mexico $200 million dollars to try and find a cure, but that usually takes time. For now, people are using little masks to cover their faces and many people carry anti-bacterial soap.

And as a suggestion to anyone who was thinking of coming to Mexico, don't. This is bound to get worse and you could be seriously affected. Take my word for it, go to some other nice place that's swine flu - free.

So does anyone know anything that might be useful? I'd sincerely appreciate the help.
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This is just another media hyped ******** story. Remember Avian flu? SARS? [Insert random outbreak scare]?

You know what, I hope it's real. As a species we could use a bottle-necking event and this is just what's called for.
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This is just another media hyped ******** story. Remember Avian flu? SARS? [Insert random outbreak scare]?

You know what, I hope it's real. As a species we could use a bottle-necking event and this is just what's called for.
I agree. If 99 % of people died I would start my own country on the olympic peninsula and live in the forest.

Im sick right now though, I hope its not it.
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Vitamin C is a sick person's best friend, so if you can't get your hands on a basic antibiotic, Vit C and other supplements to help the immune system are excellent.
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I agree. If 99 % of people died I would start my own country on the olympic peninsula and live in the forest.

Im sick right now though, I hope its not it.
Move out to Forks, you'll be fine haha.
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This is just another media hyped ******** story. Remember Avian flu? SARS? [Insert random outbreak scare]?

You know what, I hope it's real. As a species we could use a bottle-necking event and this is just what's called for.
what a bitchass thing to say.

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what a bitchass thing to say.
By all means, enlighten me as to why that is.
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By all means, enlighten me as to why that is.
Since we're acting smart; insinuating that human beings as a species could use a catastrophic event just because you're unhappy that we're killing the whales or drilling for oil is in fact a bitchass thing to say.
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Since we're acting smart; insinuating that human beings as a species could use a catastrophic event just because you're unhappy that we're killing the whales or drilling for oil is in fact a bitchass thing to say.
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Since we're acting smart; insinuating that human beings as a species could use a catastrophic event just because you're unhappy that we're killing the whales or drilling for oil is in fact a bitchass thing to say.
Nice inference. I had no idea that Brent disagreed with the killing of whales, seems pretty weird since we went baby seal clubbing together for spring break.

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the only people that agree with that nutjob opinion is a bunch of no-good PETA fruitcakes.
Just an FYI but I tend to agree with Brent on this point and I think PETA are one of the most evil groups on this earth. Humans > Animals, yeah I said it.

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This is just another media hyped ******** story. Remember Avian flu? SARS? [Insert random outbreak scare]?

You know what, I hope it's real. As a species we could use a bottle-necking event and this is just what's called for.
I agree. If 99 % of people died I would start my own country on the olympic peninsula and live in the forest.

Im sick right now though, I hope its not it.
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So things have gotten pretty ugly in Mexico...
In more ways than one, my friend.

To be serious, if someone in your area was diagnosed with it, then you should cook and prepare your own meals, and more importantly eat healthy. Premedicating yourself probably wouldn't help prevent it, as apparently it's not responding to antibiodics. I believe Swine Flu is a combination of a few flu strains, but perhaps get a regular flu shot could be be beneficial.

Also, keep a little bottle of hand sanitizer handy as well as wash your hands.
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Also, as with all viruses, young children and the elderly are most vulnerable. Or if you have a weak immune system, for whatever reason. So if you're a completely healthy young adult, you have a lesser chance of dying from a virus.

BTW, did anyone choose "Super Disease" in VoodooMonkey's Apocalypse poll? :D
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Also, as with all viruses, young children and the elderly are most vulnerable. Or if you have a weak immune system, for whatever reason. So if you're a completely healthy young adult, you have a lesser chance of dying from a virus.

BTW, did anyone choose "Super Disease" in VoodooMonkey's Apocalypse poll? :D
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Also, as with all viruses, young children and the elderly are most vulnerable. Or if you have a weak immune system, for whatever reason. So if you're a completely healthy young adult, you have a lesser chance of dying from a virus.
Actually, if you've been paying attention to how the Swine Flu has been manifesting itself, this is the opposite of the truth. This virus isn't, in itself, all that dangerous. It is, however, triggering an auto-immune response which is trashing people's lungs and killing them. Most of the people who are dying are young adult's who's immune systems are strong enough to have a violent reaction to the virus.

Everyone who's potentially at risk should be careful. Public transportation is a bad idea. Eating out a lot is a bad idea. Be smart. Most of the people on this site fall into the category of people who are at most risk. Good luck out there.
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Also, keep a little bottle of hand sanitizer handy as well as wash your hands.
I looked on that google map and someone in my area has been diagnosed with it. Uh oh. :(
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The Google map cases aren't all confirmed cases. Just cases where the patients exhibited the symptoms. If a person was diagnosed in your area, Crickett, it'd probably be on your local news stations as breaking news and top story.

Most of the cases in the US are in states along the Mexican border, and in people who just returned from a trip to Mexico.

I don't think this is an epidemic on a world-wide scale, but it is very serious for Mexican citizens such as Goosemahn.
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The Google map cases aren't all confirmed cases. Just cases where the patients exhibited the symptoms. If a person was diagnosed in your area, Crickett, it'd probably be on your local news stations as breaking news and top story.
http://wcbstv.com/health/swine.flu.nyc.2.994071.html
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You know what, I hope it's real. As a species we could use a bottle-necking event and this is just what's called for.


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In more ways than one, my friend.

To be serious, if someone in your area was diagnosed with it, then you should cook and prepare your own meals, and more importantly eat healthy. Premedicating yourself probably wouldn't help prevent it, as apparently it's not responding to antibiodics. I believe Swine Flu is a combination of a few flu strains, but perhaps get a regular flu shot could be be beneficial.

Also, keep a little bottle of hand sanitizer handy as well as wash your hands.
If a doctor prescribes antibiotics for a viral infection they should have their licenses revoked. You can't fight a viral infection with a drug meant for bacteria. Brent, bottle necking is never good for a species it tends to improve chances for extinction.
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If a doctor prescribes antibiotics for a viral infection they should have their licenses revoked. You can't fight a viral infection with a drug meant for bacteria.
You're absolutely right. Dumb moment on my part.

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Actually, if you've been paying attention to how the Swine Flu has been manifesting itself, this is the opposite of the truth. This virus isn't, in itself, all that dangerous. It is, however, triggering an auto-immune response which is trashing people's lungs and killing them. Most of the people who are dying are young adult's who's immune systems are strong enough to have a violent reaction to the virus.

Everyone who's potentially at risk should be careful. Public transportation is a bad idea. Eating out a lot is a bad idea. Be smart. Most of the people on this site fall into the category of people who are at most risk. Good luck out there.
I haven't been keeping up with it at all.
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Brent, bottle necking is never good for a species it tends to improve chances for extinction.
I'm aware. Not like we're doing this place a whole lot of good any way.
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Brent, bottle necking is never good for a species it tends to improve chances for extinction.

Exceeding the environments carrying capacity seems to be a lot worse..
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Exceeding the environments carrying capacity seems to be a lot worse..
falsehood. we're just too wasteful to see past it.

here's the thing though

is the flu curable?

no.

is it ever curable?

no.

when you go to the doctor, and they tell you you have the flu. what do you get prescribed?

bed rest. hot soup. take it easy. keep drinking fluids.

if you're a failure. you will die.
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If a doctor prescribes antibiotics for a viral infection they should have their licenses revoked. You can't fight a viral infection with a drug meant for bacteria. Brent, bottle necking is never good for a species it tends to improve chances for extinction.
I think a good extinction scare might just get people past all the fear mongering in the media over nothing.

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Exceeding the environments carrying capacity seems to be a lot worse..
Yeah but we're not even close to that yet.
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