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Old 05-16-2009, 08:04 PM    (permalink
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I know im gonna regret this because Im gonna get a lot of solely american sport focused answers but what are your biggest sports stars of all time.
my top 5:
1 Don Bradman, cricket, Australia
2 Pele, football, Brazil
3 Cassius Clay/Mohammed Ali, boxing, USA
4 Eddy Merckx, cycling, Belgium
5 Wayne Gretzky(sp?), Icehockey, Canada
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Michael Jordan for sure if you want to throw a basketball player on there. He could be the biggest American sports icon, Babe Ruth is a possibility too.
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Kobe Bean Bryant.
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even with basketball i would go futher back with chamberlain
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Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and Wilt Chamberlain might be three of mine.
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Babe Ruth and Michael Jordan for sure.

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Ruth and Jordan for sure.....no offense Wicket, and it's probably because I'm from America, but i haven't even heard of 2 of yours.....
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Since I think that the majority here isnt familiar with my choices 1 and 4 I'll give a bit of an extra illustration for them:
Don Bradman. averaged 99.94 with the bat. No other average over 65 has been recorded for players playing a similar amount of games, and this is in the second largest sport worldwide with the longest history of international contests.
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Bradman Cricket Batting average 4.4
Pelé Association football Goals per game 3.7
Ty Cobb Baseball Batting average 3.6
Jack Nicklaus Golf Major titles 3.5
Michael Jordan Basketball Points per game 3.4

The statistics show that "no other athlete dominates an international sport to the extent that Bradman does cricket". In order to post a similarly dominant career statistic as Bradman, a baseball batter would need a career batting average of .392, while a basketball player would need to score an average of 43.0 points per game. The respective records are .366 and 30.1

When Bradman died, Time magazine allocated a space in its "Milestones" column for an obituary:

... Australian icon considered by many to be the pre-eminent sportsman of all time ... One of Australia's most beloved heroes, he was revered abroad as well. When Nelson Mandela was released after 27 years in prison, his first question to an Australian visitor was, "Is Sir Donald Bradman still alive?"
Just a quote to illustrate how special he was

Eddy Merckx: won the tour the france (that thing that armstrong won a bunch of times) 5 times but also won every other major competion a few times (armstrong never won any one day courses, nor did he win the giro or the vuelta which basicly are about as important as the tour the france). the diversity of his wins has not only never been equaled, it has never even been flirted with.
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Since I think that the majority here isnt familiar with my choices 1 and 4 I'll give a bit of an extra illustration for them:
Don Bradman. averaged 99.94 with the bat. No other average over 65 has been recorded for players playing a similar amount of games, and this is in the second largest sport worldwide with the longest history of international contests.


Just a quote to illustrate how special he was

Eddy Merckx: won the tour the france (that thing that armstrong won a bunch of times) 5 times but also won every other major competion a few times (armstrong never won any one day courses, nor did he win the giro or the vuelta which basicly are about as important as the tour the france). the diversity of his wins has not only never been equaled, it has never even been flirted with.
I'm probably one of the few Americans familiar with Eddy Merckx (though, admittedly, I wouldn't be able to spell his name until this thread, lol). A few of my friends are cyclists and they got me into it, and Eddy Merckx is easily one of the sport's icons. Armstrong is a recent figure, and his story is what has made him more of a name on some people's eyes, particularly in America, but Eddy is much more accomplished, for the reasons you said.
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Oh wait, that's just my favorite sport star of all time.
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Guys Id throw in, and when I do this, I put them in in the sense that they are synonymous with their sport:

1. Muhammed Ali (you would be hard pressed to find many people who can name any other boxers)
2. Tiger Woods
3. Michael Jordan
4. Babe Ruth
5. Wayne Gretzky

Those would be the big 5 IMO, people so famous that when someone mentions the sport, their names pop into your head.
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Don Bradman, and it isn't close in my opinion. Do some research on the guy and find out why
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OH MY GOD DON BRADMAN.

A lot don't know about Bradman obviously, but considering cricket is an international sport he definitely deserves to be up there. As far as I know he has a batting average that is at least 40 runs above his closest competitor.

That is absolute domination.
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