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Old 11-09-2010, 07:47 AM    (permalink
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

Guys career could be done before we know it.
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This makes me sad. It seems like the guy works hard, comes back, throws for 4 TDs, and then goes back out again immediately. The Lions are poised for a breakthrough and really need their QB. I hope they do IR him and let him rehab for next season. In the meantime, get some OL help eh?
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The guy is going to have the injury prone label put on him now. It's sad because I like him as a QB for the Lions. I think he has good potential. However, the guy has to stay healthy. It's like every time he gets hit and falls on his arm or shoulder, something goes wrong.
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It's true. I wasn't high on him coming out but when he's on the field, he's proven me wrong.
I never saw injuries being an issue and it's sad that it is because this team seems poised to turn that corner.
How does Pettigrew over Oher feel now? Must have stung when it happened and must now sting that much more
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I've never seen the Lions play, but I definitely know for a fact that Jeff Backus sucks. Definitely.

In fact, I'm pretty sure it was Backus himself who injured Stafford. Bastard just blindsided him and then high fived a Jets player.
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I've never seen the Lions play, but I definitely know for a fact that Jeff Backus sucks. Definitely.

In fact, I'm pretty sure it was Backus himself who injured Stafford. Bastard just blindsided him and then high fived a Jets player.
Ignoring the fact that Backus is a very good tackle, then yes he sucks.
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I hope for the sake of the other teams in the NFCN, that Jeff Backus remains the Lions LT forever.



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So do those of us who don't judge players based on a single play.

Against the league's best pass rush (the Giants), Backus gave up just one sack and two additional pressures (no additional hits) in 54 passing attempts. Backus also matched up against the likely defensive player of the year and sack leader (Clay Matthews) for most of the game against the Packers and gave up just one sack and no additional pressures or hits.

Backus has completely shut down guys like Trent Cole, Jared Allen, James Hall, and Brian Orakpo this season. Here are the pass rushers that Backus has gone up against this season:

Julius Peppers
Trent Cole (T-6th in NFL in sacks)
Jared Allen
Clay Matthews (1st in NFL in sacks)
James Hall (T-6th in NFL in sacks)
Osi Umenyiora (T-3rd in NFL in sacks)
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Calvin Pace / Jason Taylor

Backus has given up a grand total of three sacks to that collection of pass rushers.
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In fact, I'm pretty sure it was Backus himself who injured Stafford. Bastard just blindsided him and then high fived a Jets player.
Thats a good one. Good news for the Lions is that There are really no LT worth's a 1ST Round pick take PP and then get a good LT who falls to the 2ND.
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Thats a good one. Good news for the Lions is that There are really no LT worth's a 1ST Round pick take PP and then get a good LT who falls to the 2ND.
There aren't even any of those.

Gabe Carimi - RT only as a pro. If you're a power running team (not many of those left in the league) then maybe you can try him a LT....but he's just not light enough on his feet to handle speed rushers without help.

Anthony Castonzo - I watched him just get toasted by Steven Friday of VT. It's one thing if a speedster just beats him a few times....that'll happen to just about any LT, but he was even getting bull rushed and driven back. Maybe that was a flukey game, but I got really turned off to him. He looked like he was playing with lead weights on his feet. Another guy I think is a RT only.

Marcus Cannon - Moving to G or RT. Similar situation to Carimi though he does look pretty light on his feet for a guy his size....not a franchise LT though. Could maybe play there in a pinch.

Derek Sherrod - The one guy I see with NFL LT potential. I think he's going to get shoved waaay up draft boards as a result. Lots of teams need a pass blocker and he is the only good bet early....wouldn't surprise me to see him go in the high teens if he works out well.

DeMarcus Love - Love his versatility. Has played LT, RT and even G I believe in the same game at times depending on the scheme they are going with. I don't know if he's an NFL LT though, but he'll make for a more than solid G or RT I feel.


Just a bad, bad year for a team needing LTs.
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It had nothing to do with his o-line, at least this time it didn't.
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Could our line be better? yes

Is our line bad? no

The first game of the season, Backus got owned on the play he got hurt, but him and the rest of our o-line has been playing very well, most importantly in pass protection. This injury has nothing to do with our o-line, he was running towards the sideline. And he is very brittle, which sucks, because I heard nothing about him being injury prone while coming out. So, please, before you start, dont say "oher would be great," or you're o line sucks, because as of the last 7 weeks, it most certainly does not.
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Is our line bad? no

The first game of the season, Backus got owned on the play he got hurt, but him and the rest of our o-line has been playing very well, most importantly in pass protection. This injury has nothing to do with our o-line, he was running towards the sideline. And he is very brittle, which sucks, because I heard nothing about him being injury prone while coming out. So, please, before you start, dont say "oher would be great," or you're o line sucks, because as of the last 7 weeks, it most certainly does not.
Then why do I see Hill, Stafford, Stanton whomever the qb may be always getting hit in every highlight I see or anytime I flip to a game?
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Well this is unfortunate, as I put my fantasy squad in his hands when I traded away Eli.

Anyways, Stafford has been lights out when he's been on the field. Its too bad he can't stay on it. And for those blaming the offensive line, while the first time was definitely their fault, this one wasn't. He was scrambling for gods sake, got caught from behind and went down awkwardly. Just bad luck.
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Damnit, now they'll probably win the patrick peterson sweepstakes.
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This injury had nothing to do with the Oline. There was coverage, Stafford didn't need to run but he did, caught from behind and fell on his shoulder.
Backus is responsible for the first injury but that is basically his only bad play he has made this year and Backus was pretty good last year. Lions are good in pass protection this year(way better than previous years) and Backus is shutting down the best DEs. Oher wouldn't do **** for this team. Backus will be our LT next year and I have no problem with that unless LT is far and away BPA over a defensive back 7 player.

Staffords shoulder injury last year had nothing to do with the Oline either. Olines can't block for 10 seconds. It was a hail mary play and Stafford was running around waiting to make a play. The first injury, the knee injury there was pass protection issues but that was a combo block with Gosder Cherilus(who is playing much better this year in pass pro) and Stephen Peterman(who I would like to see replaced but mainly for running game purposes and dumb penalties).

QBs are going to get hit. Its just too bad Stafford keeps having these freak injuries falling on his shoulder. I don't think he was fully healed coming back and now we are paying the price. Hill should be back soon and thats the only good thing about this that Hill is a capable backup and was extended for next year just in case.
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See I'm not ready to throw the injury prone label out there even though it may be justified. The first hit was Peppers getting a kill shot and lots of QB's would have gotten hurt there, this one was a process of him being rushed back and that shoulder not being healed. You have got to be careful, this is your franchise guy, you know he can play, and constant seperations to the throwing shoulder aren't going to help.


Similiar to Sam Bradford at OU, rushed back, hit again on the same shoulder and he was injured again very easily, he does have to get stronger though because you have to be able to take tough hits to be the franchise guy.
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