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Old 03-23-2007, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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Default Cowboys sign FS Ken Hamlin

Per ESPN bottom line.

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I'm not sure thats the best move for the Boys. They would have probably been better off with a safety like Reggie Nelson in the draft to pair with Roy.
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I guess that means no Reggie Nelson. It was a good signing. If Hamlin can stay healthy, he's a good player. Plus, with Wade's scheme, you need a ballhawk in the worst way. Hamlin gives them that.

Now Roy Williams has no more excuses. I view him as the most overrated player in football, if he doesn't produce this year, he should be benched like any other player on any other team would be.
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I guess that means no Reggie Nelson. It was a good signing. If Hamlin can stay healthy, he's a good player. Plus, with Wade's scheme, you need a ballhawk in the worst way. Hamlin gives them that.

Now Roy Williams has no more excuses. I view him as the most overrated player in football, if he doesn't produce this year, he should be benched like any other player on any other team would be.
Ehh I don't know BBD, I might give that honor the DeAngelo Hall.
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wow how quick did you see that and type this thread i just saw it

and oooo no reggie nelson
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I think Nelson is gonna go to Jacksonville or even Carolina anyhow. Dallas can get a left tackle like Joe Staley or a wideout maybe like Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meachum if they wanted to now since their biggest needs now seem to be a starting NT and depth elsewhere.
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I think Nelson is gonna go to Jacksonville or even Carolina anyhow. Dallas can get a left tackle like Joe Staley or a wideout maybe like Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meachum if they wanted to now since their biggest needs now seem to be a starting NT and depth elsewhere.
Totally agree. I would also put a CB in the mix... Glenn will be gone next year, and Henry is turning 32...
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Totally agree. I would also put a CB in the mix... Glenn will be gone next year, and Henry is turning 32...
I was thinking about this and was about to post it, when I saw your post. Good thinking. The Cowboys will look at LT depth, perhaps WR, but CB seems to be a key need. As coincidence would have it, there are a bunch of very good CB's in this draft...
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He is an improvement, for sure.
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Over/Under on how many Cowboy fans will tell us that this move will get them to the SB this year?
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Oh about 91.6%, followed by how he is the next Kenny Easley.
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it will still be less than the number of times BBD calls roy williams overrated or preaches the virtues of BP ;)

and cowboys were going to the super bowl without him, this just soldifies them winning it :D
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it will still be less than the number of times BBD calls roy williams overrated or preaches the virtues of BP ;)

and cowboys were going to the super bowl without him, this just soldifies them winning it :D
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It's intersting that he's been out there so long and that numerous teams chose supposedly inferior talent to him.

Hawks went with Deon Grant and Brian Ruseell over him.

Saints went with Kevin Kasehviaevaknarharn over him.

Anywho, I'm sure it won't hurt. I would guess at this point in the game the contract numbers are reasonable, but you never know.
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Hawks went with Deon Grant and Brian Ruseell over him.

Saints went with Kevin Kasehviaevaknarharn over him.

Anywho, I'm sure it won't hurt. I would guess at this point in the game the contract numbers are reasonable, but you never know.
regardless of their decision who do you think the better safety is out of hamlin, and all those players?


maybe he wanted more then what those players did, who knows...but i know it enables us to grab a different position first rd to fill an impact position and im happy about it....either way, hamlin is a solid safety, a VERY big upgrade over watkins, in an area which was a big weakness for us...


and for all the haters, how many people honestly think nelson would be around by the time we actually pick? its alot of teams who need a safety before we do, and as soon as it gets to around pick #15 he's probably BPA at that point, so why are people acting like we chose him over nelson....its no chance he's there, ill almost go on record as to saying thats a sure thing


its a good move, i trust hamlin over watkins or any rookie safety that would bee available, it lets watkins be a backup and continue to learn, so we can go after another need first rd....

jus for the record, id love the aaron ross pick right there, boost the secondary as a whole, which was our main weakness....and grab an impact D lineman 2nd rd
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Not a big fan of Hamlin, he bites on a lot of routes, still not the center fielder they need.
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Not exactly the cover safety they need.
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I kind of like this move for the Cowboys. Hamlin fits their aggressive, attacking style very nicely. He really does a lot to complete their starting secondary. With the FA market shrinking, Hamlin was probably the BPA in general, and easily the best safety. I like his style of game, and I think he will fit well with Williams. The Cowboys will still be a little weak covering the deep pass, but they will be better than they were before.
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Mixed feelings on the signing. I like it, but at the same time, it kills my Reggie Nelson man crush. LOL!

The Hammer has always impressed me from afar with his overall game. He's got that dog in him that makes him a highly competitive player who plays with a passion. I like that about him. Great tackler, frequently around the action and he'll make a big play when you need it. I like his range, but I think he could stand to improve in coverage. A sure improvement and a nice complement to Patrick Watkins. This move will allow Watkins to develop behind Hamlin instead of being tossed in the fire or having to compete with another rookie. I like the stability that we've added at the position. Even a rookie would've come in with some question marks.

This surely opens up a whole slew of options in the draft. I would like to see Dwayne Jarrett, but Joe Staley would be good too with Flozell being in the last year of his contract. CB and OLB could be addressed as well.
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A decent move ... and an upgrade, but it really isn't a significant difference unless Ken Hamlin mysteriously learns to cover better.
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I am not a fan of this move personally... I'm a Pat Watkins guy, and I think Hamlin is not the center fielding safety answer to our problems.
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