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Old 03-23-2007, 06:30 PM    (permalink
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We continue to hear rumors from media sources of a possible trade of Chargers running back to the Green Bay Packers.
Turner, a restricted free agent, has been tendered at the highest possible level. Signing him to an offer sheet would subject his team to the sacrifice of a first-round pick and a third-round pick in next month's draft. Earlier this week, Falcons quarterback Matt Schaub, who had carried the same restriction as Turner, was traded to the Texans.
The Packers definitely have a need at the tailback position, given the departure of Ahman Green, who like Schaub will play in 2007 for Houston. The only other running backs with experience on the roster are Vernand Morency and Noah Herron.
Turner is a highly-regarded backup to NFL MVP LaDainian Tomlinson. But the reality for the Chargers is that, if he plays for the team in 2007, he'll be completely unrestricted in 2008.
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I wouldn't mind that at all. A chance at either Nelson or Landry would be great
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I wouldn't mind that at all. A chance at either Nelson or Landry would be great
Where do you get anywhere from there that they would give their first for him?

Don't get me wrong, as a Bears fan I would **** my pants if the Packers were stupid enough to give up a 1st for Turner, but I think that's wishful thinking.
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Where do you get anywhere from there that they would give their first for him?

Don't get me wrong, as a Bears fan I would **** my pants if the Packers were stupid enough to give up a 1st for Turner, but I think that's wishful thinking.
If TT values Turner more than say, Marshawn Lynch, it could be a possibilty, though definitely not our 1st and 3rd. That said, I don't know enough about Turner to think that he'd be valued that high. I would think a 2nd rounder or higher may be a possibility.
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Where do you get anywhere from there that they would give their first for him?

Don't get me wrong, as a Bears fan I would **** my pants if the Packers were stupid enough to give up a 1st for Turner, but I think that's wishful thinking.
You would regret that **** my friend. Turner is a beast, I think any team would hate to see him enter their division. I guarantee that if Turner is a starter this coming year, he has a bigger impact than any rookie RB other than maybe AD.
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You would regret that **** my friend. Turner is a beast, I think any team would hate to see him enter their division. I guarantee that if Turner is a starter this coming year, he has a bigger impact than any rookie RB other than maybe AD.
And i love him, and I know he's going to do a super job. He is most definately worth a first and a third.
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I don't really see what the Packers would give up to get Turner. They don't have much ammunition on the roster and they more than likely don't want to get rid of draft picks.
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I don't really see what the Packers would give up to get Turner. They don't have much ammunition on the roster and they more than likely don't want to get rid of draft picks.
Not for a 1st and a 3rd. That's ridiculous for Turner. If SD changes their demands, maybe.
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Not for a 1st and a 3rd. That's ridiculous for Turner. If SD changes their demands, maybe.
That isn't there demands, it is just the RFA tender. What the Packers are offering was never mentioned in that post. I could see them swapping 1st rounders or GB sending over their 2nd. Turner is better than all the 2nd round backs and not much older.
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From what I've seen I really like Turner, but whether I like the trade or not depends on what we would have to give up.

How do those of you who have seen Turner play alot think he'll fit in a zone blocking scheme?
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Someone in the Packers thread posted a rumor that they would swap firsts and thirds.
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If they gave up a 1st and a 3rd for Turner alone that would be a BIG time mistake by Green Bay
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They won't give up a first they will work some thing else out if the deal goes done.
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I can't see Ted Thompson trading draft picks. He would rather build through the draft.
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I definitely don't want to give up our 1st for him. that would be terrible. Swapping 1st and 3rds would be alright but I'm still not too big on the idea.
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I meant that we would give Turner to the Packers along with the #30 pick for the #16
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In AJ's first offseason press conference, he wasn't committed to saying Turner will be a Charger in 07 and mentioned all the different ways they could go with him. If it was for #16 and a third, with Turner and #30 to GB, that puts the Chargers in range for Reggie Nelson and all the players in the mix for the #2 WR, be that Meachem, Bowe or Ginn. The Chargers would also have a second and a three thirds. It seems like more draft picks than the team really needs, so the team can move up higher in the second round, or perhaps back into the first, to get whoever they covet (say it was Nelson in the first, it could be Hill in the 2nd, or if it was Ginn in the first, it could be Merriweather or Weddle in the 2nd). Sounds good to me, but I still think AJ would lean more towards keeping Turner than trading him at this moment.
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In AJ's first offseason press conference, he wasn't committed to saying Turner will be a Charger in 07 and mentioned all the different ways they could go with him. If it was for #16 and a third, with Turner and #30 to GB, that puts the Chargers in range for Reggie Nelson and all the players in the mix for the #2 WR, be that Meachem, Bowe or Ginn. The Chargers would also have a second and a three thirds. It seems like more draft picks than the team really needs, so the team can move up higher in the second round, or perhaps back into the first, to get whoever they covet (say it was Nelson in the first, it could be Hill in the 2nd, or if it was Ginn in the first, it could be Merriweather or Weddle in the 2nd). Sounds good to me, but I still think AJ would lean more towards keeping Turner than trading him at this moment.
Nobody is going to make that trade.
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What is Turner worth then? If his value is much less, it's not worth the Chargers time.
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What is Turner worth then? If his value is much less, it's not worth the Chargers time.
He has one more year on the team. You're asking for the value of a 1st round pick for a backup runningback that you're going to have for one more year.

Granted the Falcons fleeced the Texans but there are a few differences.

1)The Packers (unfortunately) aren't that stupid.
2)Teams take chances on QB's all the time. Runningbacks aren't worth nearly as much.
3)While Turner is a hot name, I would argue that the buzz around Schaub was even higher (albeit unjustifiably)
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He has one more year on the team. You're asking for the value of a 1st round pick for a backup runningback that you're going to have for one more year.

Granted the Falcons fleeced the Texans but there are a few differences.

1)The Packers (unfortunately) aren't that stupid.
2)Teams take chances on QB's all the time. Runningbacks aren't worth nearly as much.
3)While Turner is a hot name, I would argue that the buzz around Schaub was even higher (albeit unjustifiably)

According to the value chart, a trade down in the first, and an extra third, has the value of a high second. I could, hypothetically, see a team doing this to obtain Turner's rights to lock him up long term, rather than compete with a myriad of teams next year in a bidding war. Besides, Green Bay needs a strong runner this year, not next year. This year's draft doesn't look very strong for second round backs, if that's what GB is targeting.
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He has one more year on the team. You're asking for the value of a 1st round pick for a backup runningback that you're going to have for one more year.

Granted the Falcons fleeced the Texans but there are a few differences.

1)The Packers (unfortunately) aren't that stupid.
2)Teams take chances on QB's all the time. Runningbacks aren't worth nearly as much.
3)While Turner is a hot name, I would argue that the buzz around Schaub was even higher (albeit unjustifiably)
From your keyboard to God's monitor. I am OK with switching first and thirds as you are drafting the same number of players and picking up a good prospect at RB. Also, Packers could get a TE at the bottom of the first, or perhaps Leonard, whereas this year's TEs have dubious value in the first. TT also does not have the same value board as other teams and so he takes small-college players and unknowns higher than other teams because he believes his scouts and not combine numbers. Tony Moll went in the 5th and started ten games last year at RG/RT and wasn't even one of the 400 players profiled on this board. TT also loves to trade down, because a lot of the guys he's targeting are not rated as high on other team's boards.
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Is the situation similar to the Schaub (minus the positional different between the two). I'm guessing Turner's value is less.
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Is the situation similar to the Schaub (minus the positional different between the two). I'm guessing Turner's value is less.
That would be valid.
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