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12-12-2011, 11:25 AM
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Will the Chiefs Consider a QB Now?
ESPN has reported that Todd Haley has just been fired with 3 games left. Does this mean the Chiefs take a quarterback if their picking high enough?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73...gling-team-5-8
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12-12-2011, 11:29 AM
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I sure as **** hope so. If we hire Josh ******* McDaniels they'll probably roll with Cassel and we'll suck even worse next year, but if Pioli pulls his head out of his ass and hires a coach who knows what he's doing, I think QB is a very real possibility.
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12-12-2011, 11:29 AM
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I think it is possible, but Pioli isn't going anywhere. He may want to stick with Cassel, but if a franchise QB is staring them in the face, it would be tough to pass.
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12-12-2011, 11:43 AM
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Trading up for Matt Barkley. Book it.
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12-12-2011, 11:56 AM
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I could see them trading up to three to get him. Minnesota will likely take Matt Kalil. The Rams would have their eye on him. If he is gone, I think the Rams would be very happy to trade back to get better value on Claiborne or Blackmon. And with Miami, Jacksonville, and Washington ahead of them, the Chiefs are going to have to trade up to get a QB unless they really like Tannehill or Jones.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.
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12-12-2011, 12:00 PM
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I could see them trading up to three to get him. Minnesota will likely take Matt Kalil. The Rams would have their eye on him.
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What? You must mean another team...
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12-12-2011, 12:18 PM
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What? You must mean another team...
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He meant the Rams would have their eye on Matt Kalil which is very true. However, should the **** Vikes steal him from his rightful place with the Rams, I am very sure we would be very receptive to trading down, stockpiling more picks (more picks = more opportunities to screw ourselves!) and then select Blackmon or maybe Claiborne.
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I'd trade up for any of the big 3 QBs and not even blink (shutup Shane!).
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12-12-2011, 02:59 PM
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I think if Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, Robert Griffin III, or Landry Jones are available when the Chiefs pick, they will take him.
You might win divisions with Matt Cassel, but you're not going to win championships with him.
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12-12-2011, 03:17 PM
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I think if Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, Robert Griffin III, or Landry Jones are available when the Chiefs pick, they will take him.
You might win divisions with Matt Cassel, but you're not going to win championships with him.
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Yeah, that is exactly right. Cassel is not going to win anyone a championship and we all know it. And we actually have some offensive talent.. if only we had a QB to get them the ball.
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12-12-2011, 03:46 PM
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With where the Chiefs will be picking in round one, the plums of the QB class will be gone. Likely gonna be looking at Landry Jones, Ryan Tannehill types instead of Luck/Barkley/Griffin imo.
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12-12-2011, 04:06 PM
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It's Ricky Stanzi time!!!
Give him a shot before drafting a QB.
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12-12-2011, 04:16 PM
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It's Ricky Stanzi time!!!
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Are you being ******* serious? No. Don't give him a shot. I don't care what they think he can be. We're going to be picking top 10 and we'll hopefully have a shot at a QB but you can't **** your franchise over for a god damn 5th rounder.
Jesus, I've seen you say some stupid things in the past but this might take the cake.
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12-27-2011, 04:05 PM
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Are you being ******* serious? No. Don't give him a shot. I don't care what they think he can be. We're going to be picking top 10 and we'll hopefully have a shot at a QB but you can't **** your franchise over for a god damn 5th rounder.
Jesus, I've seen you say some stupid things in the past but this might take the cake.
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This. I like Stanzi but he shouldn't alter any QB plans. If you happen to end up with 2 good QB's awesome, there are worse things to happen. But if you have a QB come along you like, you don't pass because you took Stanzi in the 5th round prior. Stanzi could be attractive trade bait for someone, a valuable long term back-up who knows the system, or challenge the new rookie QB if he plays well enough.
Alot of options, but none of them involve passing up an elite QB.
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I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.
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12-12-2011, 04:16 PM
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I hop Stanzi atleast gets some playing time in these last few games, I think he can develop into a starting QB. If they do opt to take a QB, Landry Jones could have he right value and fit depending on if he declares n
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12-12-2011, 04:21 PM
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I think they already have one in Stanzi.
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12-12-2011, 04:49 PM
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I don't think Haley really had anything to do with Cassel in the first place. I think it will be a Cassel/Orton competition.
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12-12-2011, 04:53 PM
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I think if Luck, Barkley and RG3 all declare its likely one will fall past 5 then it may be worth moving up for that player. It would be a very good decision if Pioli gave up a second rounder to move 4 or 5 spots for someone like Barkley
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I think its a pretty attractive head coaching position. You have a couple solid veteran QBs (Orton on a 1 year deal?), Charles + Moeaki + Berry coming back from injury, and the opportunity to get your QB of the future. I can't believe I'm saying this but if McDaniels doesn't have GM powers it might not be the worse thing to happen.
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12-12-2011, 05:20 PM
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I don't think either Barkley or RGIII falls out of the top 5, and the top four right now IMO looks like Luck/Barkley/RGIII and Kalil.
I'd still play Stanzi the rest of the season before I think about someone like Barkley is an automatic upgrade.
Someone please tell vidae not to meltdown on a message board because he happens to disagree with someone else's opinion.
Some of you guys come off as extremely emotionally fragile.
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12-12-2011, 05:23 PM
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I don't think either Barkley or RGIII falls out of the top 5, and the top four right now IMO looks like Luck/Barkley/RGIII and Kalil.
I'd still play Stanzi the rest of the season before I think about someone like Barkley is an automatic upgrade.
Someone please tell vidae not to meltdown on a message board because he happens to disagree with someone else's opinion.
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vidae may have been a bit harsh but his post is 100 percent correct.
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12-12-2011, 05:35 PM
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I thought Stanzi was a 2nd/3rd round prospect last year. Being drafted in the 5th doesn't mean he's not a viable option. But whatever.
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You don't pass on a talent like Barkley or RG3 because you have Ricky Stanzi. You just don't. Period.
And I'm about as emotionally stable as they come, thank you very much!
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12-12-2011, 06:51 PM
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You don't pass on a talent like Barkley or RG3 because you have Ricky Stanzi. You just don't. Period.
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Unless you guys don't have a shot at those 2. Which is very possible. What other QB's are really "cant miss" besides those 2 and Luck? I mean I like Cousins and Tannehill as sleepers but if there is a legitimate defensive guy in Round 1 and the big 3 are off the table you gotta go with BPA.
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If one of the top three people tend to mention are staring them in the face then they almost in all likely hood will take them. Golden Rule.
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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