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Old 01-19-2012, 09:10 AM    (permalink
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About Osweiler: "More tape I've watched, more impressed I am. Unbelievable tools. Could move into late 1st rd."

Also mentioned Tannehill and Foles as first round possibilities.


I'll say this, I wouldn't be overly surprised if Foles/Osweiler rise during offseason with the need at QB.
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I believe it'll be four but I'm still not buying Foles.
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I believe it'll be four but I'm still not buying Foles.
Yeah, this is where I stand as well. Foles is much like Gabbert, just less of a *****.
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About Osweiler: "More tape I've watched, more impressed I am. Unbelievable tools. Could move into late 1st rd."

Also mentioned Tannehill and Foles as first round possibilities.


I'll say this, I wouldn't be overly surprised if Foles/Osweiler rise during offseason with the need at QB.
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I guess the new rookie deals have changed the way teams approach drafting that position
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I guess the new rookie deals have changed the way teams approach drafting that position
I think last year's draft changed the approach in how to draft QBs. It's a QB driven league now, the position is at a premium more than ever. The rules have been skewed heavily in the offense's favor.

I don't see Foles as a first rounder though. He reminds me of Josh Freeman physically and skillset wise. Both are big guys with good but not huge arms.
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I say 3.

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Ryan Mallett>>>>Tanneyhill,Foles and Osweiler. Offer Belichick your 2013 1st. I'm sure he'll listen.
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Ryan Mallett>>>>Tanneyhill,Foles and Osweiler. Offer Belichick your 2013 1st. I'm sure he'll listen.
You may not be that far off on that prediction.

Of the two i like Osweiller better but Foles might look the part with a good combine, he's probably not too far skill wise from Gabbert.
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You may not be that far off on that prediction.

Of the two i like Osweiller better but Foles might look the part with a good combine, he's probably not too far skill wise from Gabbert.
I'm thinking Cleveland if they don't trade up for RG3 or sign Flynn. Get all of your weapons with your early picks this year. Mallett has had a year to study under Brady. Could probably step right in and play. Pretty sure Cleveland can make it to 8-8. Wouldn't be a Top 12 pick. I know some guys without a strong arm have done well in Cleveland. Sipe and Kosar. But, having a big arm wouldn't hurt given the conditions they play in sometimes.
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It should be three. But the way teams overvalue Quarterbacks these days, it wouldn't surprise me to see six go in the first.
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It should be three. But the way teams overvalue Quarterbacks these days, it wouldn't surprise me to see six go in the first.
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There are two, TWO! first round worthy QBs this year, and they're going to be gone within the top 4 picks.

To anyone else whose team needs a QB and doesn't get one of those two...may the football gods have mercy on your soul.
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Ryan Mallett>>>>Tanneyhill,Foles and Osweiler. Offer Belichick your 2013 1st. I'm sure he'll listen.
Mallett also >>>> Gabbert, Locker, Ponder....but that didn't help him go ahead of them.
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Mallett also >>>> Gabbert, Locker, Ponder....but that didn't help him go ahead of them.
Mallett is going to be the back up next year when Hoyer splits. He is not >>>>>> Locker
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Luck will go 1 overall.


RG3 will go 2, 3 or 4.(the Browns will take him if he slides, but I think somebody trades with STL or MIN.)

Tannehill could go as high as Washington at 6, but I don't think he will get past Seattle at 12.

Foles will be the guy that gets traded up for in the late first/early second. Think Freeman/Tebow/Kaepernick.

In my opinion:

Cleveland get their man when RG3 falls.

Washington sign Matt Flynn.


The Seahawks take Tannehill.

Jets sign Peyton Manning

And Miami trades into the late first for Foles.
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About Osweiler: "More tape I've watched, more impressed I am. Unbelievable tools. Could move into late 1st rd."

Also mentioned Tannehill and Foles as first round possibilities.


I'll say this, I wouldn't be overly surprised if Foles/Osweiler rise during offseason with the need at QB.
McShay probably watched Osweiler and saw one pass that was like WOW and forgot the rest of his footage and thought if he can do that more, he'd be great.

Osweiler is 6'7 with a big arm. Thats it.
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Good. It pushes good talent down that much farther. Keep reaching, losers!
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Good. It pushes good talent down that much farther. Keep reaching, losers!
same thing i'm thinking.

good. panthers can reap the rewards.

maybe some dumb team will trade up and give the panthers picks like the falcons were dumb enough to give up for julio.

mcshay is a moron, but i hope he's right with this.
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I just don't get how this Foles thing won't go away. I absolutely don't see it on tape.

Osweiler is going to be overdrafted based on tools, but at least he has that going for him.
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I don't think there will be 5. I think Luck and Griffin obviously go at the top of the draft, and Tannehill finds his way into the first round (probably not top 15 if he doesn't ever really workout with his foot injury). Osweiller might go high b/c of his tools like a lot of QBs have done. I don't see Osweiller and Foles both sneaking into round 1. Foles seems like a classic 2nd rounder. Then again a few analysts and scouts I've heard love Foles, so you never know.
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What teams need a QB (or at least may believe they do)?

Colts - They'll take Luck
Browns - They'll take RG3 unless someone leapfrogs them
Redskins - They'll try to leapfrog the Browns or get Flynn
Dolphins - Probably don't have what it takes to get RG3, will they really spend a 1st on a lower-end 1st round QB like Tannehill?
Seahawks - I have no idea
Broncos - Elway wants a real QB but can they spend a 1st on one?

I think the Colts, Browns, and Skins are the ones that will for-sure start 2012 with a new QB in place, with at least two of them drafting one. Of the final three teams, one of them will probably take Tannehill. Beyond that, I have a hard time seeing any other QB go in the 1st this season.
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If Blaine Gabbert can be a top 10 pick.....
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This pretty much says all that needs to be said.
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I knew it was only a matter of time before McShay started ringing the Osweiler bell. They're both represented by CAA (same with Gabbert and Sanchez - McShay's two previous love affairs).
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I knew it was only a matter of time before McShay started ringing the Osweiler bell. They're both represented by CAA (same with Gabbert and Sanchez - McShay's two previous love affairs).
This x1000.

Not enough is said about how McShay pimps out certain prospects out of the blue with little merit, and makes it seem as if other teams are dying to have them and causes them to be over drafted. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some share of ownership in that talent firm.
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I'm glad my team doesn't need a QB. All I can say...

Those guys in the first round. Makes my head hurt.
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