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Old 03-22-2012, 05:57 PM    (permalink
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Default Consensus #7 Overall NFL Draft Pick

With the 7th selection in the 2012 National Football League Draft, The Jacksonville Jaguars select Quinton Coples, North Carolina.

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No. He doesnt have the motor or character to get drafted by the Jags.
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No. He doesnt have the motor or character to get drafted by the Jags.
Coples has no character concerns that would have him off the Jags board. That being said, I think they could easily pass on him just because I think they want to get Gabbert a toy like Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill.
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Coples has no character concerns that would have him off the Jags board. That being said, I think they could easily pass on him just because I think they want to get Gabbert a toy like Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill.
Gene Smith won't appreciate Coples admitting he "gave up" at UNC last year.
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Coples has no character concerns that would have him off the Jags board. That being said, I think they could easily pass on him just because I think they want to get Gabbert a toy like Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill.
I've been thinking about Kendall Wright as a possible sleeper to the Jags and potential surprise of the Top 10 for a while now, but can you imagine if they REALLY wanted to go for the shock factor and selected Stephen Hill at #7!? Wow! That would be CRAZY! But I could see it!
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No, but I don't know who is. I was looking through mock drafts and the other two popular picks seemed to be Michael Floyd and Melvin Ingram. Michael Floyd is a no because of character - the next time GM Gene drafts a player with anything less than impeccable character will be the first time, so I'll believe it when I see it. I think Ingram is a terrible fit in the 4-3. They would love to trade down but if they don't manage it I have no idea what to expect.
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No, but I don't know who is. I was looking through mock drafts and the other two popular picks seemed to be Michael Floyd and Melvin Ingram. Michael Floyd is a no because of character - the next time GM Gene drafts a player with anything less than impeccable character will be the first time, so I'll believe it when I see it. I think Ingram is a terrible fit in the 3-4. They would love to trade down but if they don't manage it I have no idea what to expect.
1) The jaguars run a 4-3
2) Ingram is perfect for the 3-4 (although Jaguars run 4-3)

I think Ingram will be the selection, but I wouldn't sleep on Reiff
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1) The jaguars run a 4-3
2) Ingram is perfect for the 3-4 (although Jaguars run 4-3)

I think Ingram will be the selection, but I wouldn't sleep on Reiff
Haha I meant 4-3, good catch.
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Kendall Wright is my guess. Wouldn't particularly like the pick though.
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Kendall Wright is my guess. Wouldn't particularly like the pick though.
I like Wright, and it wouldn't surprise me if Wright reminded Mularkey of a guy he drafted once ( I think) in Lee Evans, but at this juncture, it'd stun me if Wright went 7th.

I don't think there's a consensus on the 7th pick. Could I see Coples? Perhaps. Signing Mincey didn't remove the need for a DE. I tend to think they will try and find a way to make this pick about offense (or make their first pick about offense if they move). Gene Smith's GM tenure is riding on a QB taking charge, and they simply need more weapons there.

If I had to take a guess, I'd guess that they'd try and position themselves for Michael Floyd, whether at 7 or somewhere else, as a big, tall WR to pair with the recently signed (and overpaid) Laurent Robinson. BUt I think they'd be perfectly fine moving down and targeting someone else. It actually wouldn't surprise me if Gene Smith really liked Sanu and tried to target him. For some reason, feels like the type of guy Smith may take.
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I think they'll draft Justin Blackmon at #7.
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I think they'll draft Justin Blackmon at #7.
I think most people are assuming the top 6 are
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Claiborne
Blackmon

Draft enters a transition with this pick. I'm guessing that's why thread started. I know it's not their nature. But, I think Michael Floyd. Sometimes you have to gamble on talent. I can see Ingram or Coples here too.
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I think most people are assuming the top 6 are
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Draft enters a transition with this pick. I'm guessing that's why thread started. I know it's not their nature. But, I think Michael Floyd. Sometimes you have to gamble on talent. I can see Ingram or Coples here too.
Yeah, yeah I know. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them pick up someone like Whitney Mercilus at #7, if that's how the top 6 went.
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Yeah, yeah I know. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them pick up someone like Whitney Mercilus at #7, if that's how the top 6 went.
If the top 6 picks goes as consensus predicts and the Jaguars are unable to trade back then I think Whitney Mercilus will be the pick.

Gene Smith has a track record of passing on players like Coples with commitment issues and Ingram seems a better fit for a 3-4 team. Mercilus is athletically very similar to Aldon Smith last year and JPP two years ago. He is the type of player Gene Smith traditionally targets and is being underrated by far too many.
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But, I think Michael Floyd. Sometimes you have to gamble on talent. I can see Ingram or Coples here too.
People need to understand just how radical of a shift in philosophy would be required for the Jags to take Floyd. The fact that they haven't taken a single player with character issues in the 3 years GM Gene has been in charge is just the start of it. It's not just avoiding problem guys, they've actively sought players who get the highest character grades - a lot of team captains and the like. Before Gene took over the Jags were leading the league in arrests, and that was when the Bengals were in their prime. When Gene became GM, every player with issues was either cut or let walk via free agency - Gerald Sensabaugh, Khalif Barnes, Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, and Nate Collins just this off-season. I'm sure I'm missing some others too. It would be a SHOCK to me to see them take someone with 3 alcohol-related arrests in a 2-year span.
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People need to understand just how radical of a shift in philosophy would be required for the Jags to take Coples. The fact that they haven't taken a single player with character issues in the 3 years GM Gene has been in charge is just the start of it. It's not just avoiding problem guys, they've actively sought players who get the highest character grades - a lot of team captains and the like. Before Gene took over the Jags were leading the league in arrests, and that was when the Bengals were in their prime. When Gene became GM, every player with issues was either cut or let walk via free agency - Gerald Sensabaugh, Khalif Barnes, Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, and Nate Collins just this off-season. I'm sure I'm missing some others too. It would be a SHOCK to me to see them take someone with 3 alcohol-related arrests in a 2-year span.
I'm not a ND fan,or a M. Floyd fan. Most wr's are A-Holes. You have to dance with the devil at that position. Randy Moss, TO, Santonio Holmes, Dez Bryant, Michael Irvin, DeSean Jackson are just a few of the guys who you wouldn't have considered. None of them exactly destroyed a team early in their careers. If you don't upgrade that position, you'll never know how good your qb is. Ideally, Richardson slips and you might be able to trade down. Or, if KC or Cleve want to move up and get Tanneyhill ahead of Miami. That could happen. A new owner might change things too. He might see 25 wins in 4 years and question status quo.
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It has to be an offensive player in order to help Gabbert.
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Tannehill would make his job a lot easier.
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Get Gabbert a good WR to throw to...

Jaguars take the best WR on the board which will be Blackmon or Floyd. IMO, Floyd is the better prospect but the number hogs will say Blackmon.

I'll take a 6'2" 225 lbs WR who runs good routes, has great hands and has overcome adversity over the 6'2" 205 lbs WR that played in a spread offense.
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You really have to try to get inside Gene Smith's head to guess what he'll do. If Blackmon were available, I would think they'd take him despite some perceived character concerns. If not, I think they'd try to trade out and improve the offense. DeCastro, Reiff, Hill all make sense to me, and something about Melvin Ingram feels like a Jacksonville pick as well.
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7 might be the spot where we see our first draft day trade, I have the feeling the Jags want to get another WR(Floyd or Wright). If a team wants Tannehill or one of the talented Dlinemen they could swap with Jacksonville. Could the Cowboys make a play for Poe?
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jacksonville gets burned when they draft DE's ie. derrick harvey, quinton groves. in other words hope to god they dont
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jacksonville gets burned when they draft DE's ie. derrick harvey, quinton groves. in other words hope to god they dont
Both of those guys came from the same class and James Harris was the man making the picks then.


I think DeCastro as a sleeper choice like others mentioned makes some sense, as could Jonathan Martin or Riley Reiff. Offensive line is one way they could go. Blackmon if he slides would cause them to run to the podium, same if Claiborne slips. Otherwise Ingram also makes a lot of sense.

I think ultimately Gene Smith is hoping to trade back if he can.
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people really think they'll draft poe at 7? just stop. They're going to take ingram at 7, and then a wr in the 2nd.

The jags have never drafted higher than 7, it sucks. Never having a team worse than 5-11 in your history is unfortunate.
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