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Old 04-25-2012, 02:03 PM    (permalink
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How accurate has he been historically?
He's better than most. I remember in 2009 he nailed Glenn Dorsey going #5 with Matt Ryan going #3 before everyone else in his mock draft. He usually gets the top 5 or 6 picks dead on....but like everyone else knows it's a total crapshoot guessing how the draft will go after pick 10 or so.

So if he says Blackmon to CLE, Richardson to TB, Kalil to MIN, and Claiborne to STL people are turning their heads and not scoffing at it with good reason.
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wow just wow. first day ever following the draft? Mayock is God fool.
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wow just wow. first day ever following the draft? Mayock is God fool.
No its not fool. Just don't feel like going back through his past mocks and this forum is full of helpful members who can give an answer. FOOL
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You guys are weird. Last year, Battle was one of the best backs in the league from a pass blocking standpoint. He doesn't turn the ball over. He averaged 4 yards per carry. That was equal to or better than the following notable names: Chris Johnson, Mike Tolbert, Cedric Benson, Ahmad Bradshaw, Michael Bush, Tim Hightower, Brandon Jacobs, Steve Slaton, Marion Barber, Benjarvis Green-Ellis, Peyton Hillis, Daniel Thomas, and Thomas Jones. It's better than Matt Forte's first two years when people were already calling him an excellent back.

Jackie Battle is an average back with acceptable production. If you get yourself a Jackie Battle and pair him with another average back who trades the plus blocking for plus receiving, you've got all the running back you need for a perfectly good committee.

You don't get ahead by spending top five picks or top money on the position with the shortest lifespan and the greatest chance of injury.

re: Peyton Hillis- he was trash last year. there wasn't a single part of his game that was good.
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Jackie Battle is not better than Peyton Hillis in any way shape or form. I'm not having that argument.

My primary argument is that for these Bucs

Taking Trent Richardson is a better move than taking Morris Claiborne and an unknown 3rd round pick.

My secondary argument is that just because great QBs win Super Bowls does not mean teams that feature great RBs cannot.

A tertiary argument is how good of a prospect Richardson really is. I believe he's the best RB since Adrian Peterson, and someone who is pretty much a sure thing to make a Ray-Rice-like impact for the team that drafts him.

I believe that investing in him is a wiser choice than hoping that a late round pick can do an 'acceptable' job at RB, ESPECIALLY for a team that lacks a dynamic passing game.
Lagarrette Blount is really getting undervalued. He's the best young power back in the league and was the league's best in 10' once he started. He didn't step up this past season but the whole team was a disaster from mid season on. 4.2 a carry for a power back behind that line on a squad with that defense is noteworthy. Going into just his 3rd season, 4.6avg with 11 TDs is more than fine. Richardson, "pretty much a sure thing", Blount has already shown what he can do, and it's pretty good. RB is not a great need for them. Trading up is reaching for a luxury.
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re: Peyton Hillis- he was trash last year. there wasn't a single part of his game that was good.
Eh, not exactly. He was the same guy when he was healthy. The coaching staff just never seemed to be behind him.
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That would really suck having Eric Berry and Mark Barron on the Chiefs. That defense is already crazy good.
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That would really suck having Eric Berry and Mark Barron on the Chiefs. That defense is already crazy good.
I scratched my head at KC taking 2 SEC safeties in 3 yrs. I thought they had some overwhelming O-line needs.

Fleener to the Texans is a train that's left the draft trends station with a little over 24 hrs. to On The Clock time .... it's building up steam too.
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I scratched my head at KC taking 2 SEC safeties in 3 yrs. I thought they had some overwhelming O-line needs.
This is false.

They "could" use an upgrade at LG or C but neither is a overwhelming need. Their biggest problem at OL was RT but Eric Winston should solve that.

That said David DeCastro could very well be the pick, with him maybe being BPA.

As for Mark Barron to the Chiefs I highly doubt it.
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My big board for the Rams has been

1. Claiborne
2. Richardson
3. Floyd/Blackmon
4. Kalil

So obviously I'm happy with that pick.

Dontari Poe at #25, maybe my prediction of him slipping to the 2nd round comes true.
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I would hope he would not get past my 49ers at 30.
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Atta boy Mr.Mayock.
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His and mine look pretty similar at the back end. I'm not a huge fan of Upshaw, but certain situations would make it reasonable.
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I'd be very happy if Floyd falls to the Jets.
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that is definately a different Chiefs pick then i've seen but I actually like it
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that is definately a different Chiefs pick then i've seen but I actually like it
it would be a waste of a draft pick. how would berry and barron work together? keep berry roaming the field and draft someone latter to play the 1 deep role
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That's the first time I've seen Barron projected higher than 14.
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That's the first time I've seen Barron projected higher than 14.
Schefter tweeted today that Barron will not make it to #14.
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The Chiefs spending another high 1st on ANOTHER safety? I don't get it. Feels like a waste IMO. If they had to go DB with that pick it'd be better if they got a corner.

IDK. Barron at 11 seems like a bad idea, IMO, with Berry having the potential that he does and Kendrick Lewis showing some promise.
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Been connected to Buffalo, Kansas City, and Seattle. They say Seattle wants to move Chancellor to OLB and put Barron at strong safety. I think Dallas, Philly, or New York will try to trade up and get him.
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it would be a waste of a draft pick. how would berry and barron work together? keep berry roaming the field and draft someone latter to play the 1 deep role
can't Berry play FS?have him roam the field and let Barron be the in the box guy.the S class is bad this year might as well get the best one in the draft
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can't Berry play FS?have him roam the field and let Barron be the in the box guy.the S class is bad this year might as well get the best one in the draft
usually when you have a safety roam the field, the other stays back in coverage and keeps the deep option out. You cannot have barron play in-the-box and have berry run around. it would weaken your pass defense.
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usually when you have a safety roam the field, the other stays back in coverage and keeps the deep option out. You cannot have barron play in-the-box and have berry run around. it would weaken your pass defense.
what in the hell are you talking about
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