Saw this on the bottom line during SportsCenter after the game. Really sad stuff, and no one here (maybe CJ) can fully appreciate everything Modell has done.
I'm so awesome I grew up in New York where everyone is so ******* cool and everyone has a job and the city is just so much better than anything I've ever experienced. Where the night life is a rager even on Tuesday nights and the beer flows like Capistrano.
I'm so awesome I grew up in New York where everyone is so ******* cool and everyone has a job and the city is just so much better than anything I've ever experienced. Where the night life is a rager even on Tuesday nights and the beer flows like Capistrano.
Then why are you a browns fan? I grew up in Berlin and Chicago, and was smart enough not become a browns fan, how come you ended up a Browns fan growing up an equally awesome city?
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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Then why are you a browns fan? I grew up in Berlin and Chicago, and was smart enough not become a browns fan, how come you ended up a Browns fan growing up an equally awesome city?
I GREW UP IN AVON LAKE.
LOOK AT THE BEAUTY.
LOOK AT IT.
Also I'm not gonna talk **** about Art Modell, it is what it is, RIP.
Then why are you a browns fan? I grew up in Berlin and Chicago, and was smart enough not become a browns fan, how come you ended up a Browns fan growing up an equally awesome city?
I have more respect for a life long Browns fan than just about anyone else. The team not doing well for the past 25 years only strengthens my appreciation of them. Being a fan isn't just about your team winning.
Then why are you a browns fan? I grew up in Berlin and Chicago, and was smart enough not become a browns fan, how come you ended up a Browns fan growing up an equally awesome city?
I grew up in Cleveland and assumed you grew up in NYC because you are a Giants fan, I was making a jab at you for ripping on Cleveland relentlessly all the time but apparently that flew right over your head.
Cleveland is not nearly as ****** as people make it out to be, certain areas are obviously a **** hole but that comes with most big cities. If you grew up in Chicago good for you, http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/cri...to-exceed-2011 shows how ******* amazing Chicago is and that every part of the city is clearly a sanctuary.
There is really no reason to hate Cleveland, especially the fans of the city. I would like to hear reasons besides "LOL WHAT THE **** IS THERE TO DO IN CLEVELAND!?" and "LOL I FOUND A FUNNY VIDEO ON YOUTUBE DESCRIBING CLEVELAND TOURISM!" and "LOL YOUR SPORTS TEAMS SUCK, **** YOU!"
In a nutshell why did he move the team again? I can't remember.
Here are the most relevant details (with the key parts in bold), from Wikipedia:
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In 1973, then-Browns owner Art Modell signed a 25-year lease to operate Cleveland Stadium. Modell's newly-formed company, Stadium Corporation, assumed the expenses of operations from the city, freeing up tax dollars for other purposes. Also, Modell would pay an annual rent of $150,000 for the first five years and $200,000 afterwards to the city. In exchange, Modell would receive all revenue generated by the stadium. Stadium Corp invested in improvements, including new electronic scoreboards and luxury suites. Renting the suites and the scoreboard advertising generated substantial revenue for Stadium Corp and Modell.
However, Modell refused to share the suite revenue with the Cleveland Indians Major League Baseball team (which also played at Cleveland Stadium), even though much of the revenues were generated during baseball games as well as football games.
Eventually, the Indians prevailed upon the local governments and voters and convinced them to build them their own facility where they controlled the suite revenue. Modell, mistakenly believing that his revenues were not endangered, refused to participate in the Gateway Project that built Jacobs Field for the Indians and Gund Arena for the NBA's Cleveland Cavaliers. Modell's assumptions proved incorrect, and Stadium Corp's suite revenues declined sharply when the Indians moved from the stadium to Jacobs Field in 1994.
After Modell realized how much revenue he lost from the Indians moving out of Cleveland Stadium, he requested an issue be placed on the ballot to provide $175 million in tax dollars to refurbish the outmoded and declining Cleveland Stadium.
On the field, the Browns, coached by Bill Belichick, were coming off a playoff season in which the team finished 11-5 and advanced to the second round of the playoffs entering the 1995 season. Sports Illustrated even selected the Browns to represent the AFC in Super Bowl XXX at the end of the season. However, the team disappointed many fans by losing three straight games after starting the season 3-1.
On November 6, 1995, with the team sitting at 4-5, Modell announced in a press conference at Camden Yards that he had signed a deal to relocate the Browns to Baltimore, Maryland in 1996 – a move which would return the NFL to Baltimore for the first time since the Baltimore Colts relocated to Indianapolis, Indiana after the 1983 season. The reason Modell chose to relocate to Baltimore was because he felt the city had the funding to build a first-class stadium.The very next day, on November 7, Cleveland voters overwhelmingly approved the aforementioned tax issue to remodel Cleveland Stadium.
The reaction in Cleveland was, not surprisingly, very hostile. Modell had promised numerous times never to move the team. The Brooklyn native mentioned numerous times how saddened and betrayed he and other Brooklynites had felt when the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles in 1957. He had also publicly criticized the Baltimore Colts' move to Indianapolis, and he had testified in favor of the NFL in court cases where the league unsuccessfully tried to stop Al Davis from moving the Oakland Raiders from Oakland to Los Angeles.
Yeah, I can't say I'm sad over this dude dropping. I'm not saying I want him dead but I'm not gonna be heartbroken and saddened that we lost a pioneer of the game or anything remotely close to that. Those are some real chicken**** actions on his part.
I've always figured that the hatred is justified just based on the facts that he moved the team after decades of swearing he wouldn't; then he fired Belichick, drafted Ogden and Lewis, and immediately became one of the best teams of the next fifteen years. I mean, just imagine the Cleveland Browns with Ray Lewis and Bill Belichick.
Still, you hate to hear about anybody reaching the end of the line, like he apparently is.
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3. Bjoern Werener – Flordia State – Vince from shamwow once said “Germans make good stuff”
I wonder if they'll add tidbits to how Cleveland Browns fans fell since Modell died in the upcoming "A Football Life" piece about the franchise moving.
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Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.
I wonder if they'll add tidbits to how Cleveland Browns fans fell since Modell died in the upcoming "A Football Life" piece about the franchise moving.
Wait until Sunday when the drunk Browns fans start a **** modell chant or something stupid and it blows up and ends up all over the media.