Jordan Poyer : CB : Oregon State

princefielder28 · 09-08-2012, 04:24 PM

Watching the first half of the Badgers-Beavers game, and he has been a player that has jumped off the screen and shut down his side of the field. He's also a weapon on special teams and during a year where there's really no clear cut #1 senior CB, this guy could very well take that title.

jared3 · 09-08-2012, 06:26 PM

Poyer played really well. My top corners so far include: 1) Dee Milliner 2) Johnathan Banks 3) Xavier Rhodes 4) Jordan Poyer 5) David Amerson

princefielder28 · 10-06-2012, 09:28 PM

3 INTs today...first round consideration???

rawdawg · 10-07-2012, 10:57 AM

I don't know about 1st round. But easily goes in the 2nd. I'm crossing my fingers that he's around for the Bears 2nd round pick and they select a Beaver defender for the 3rd straight year. He's a guy that can just cover. He won't wow you with his physique, great height/length, or 4.3 blazing speed, but he covers anyone you put in front of him. He doesn't lack for ball skills or speed. He's my Casey Hayward of this season (and I was in love with Casey, til he went to the Packers).

bucfan12 · 10-07-2012, 11:22 AM

This guy is legit. Very underrated but that could change very soon.

BRAVEHEART · 10-07-2012, 01:52 PM

Shutdown Marquess Wilson.

norcalgsr · 10-14-2012, 02:20 AM

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Shutdown Marquess Wilson.

What happened with Dan Buckner and Austin Hill?

San Diego Chicken · 10-07-2012, 06:29 PM

He's legit. Can play corner, safety, nickel corner... he's a D-coordinator's dream.

y.f.s. · 10-07-2012, 07:16 PM

Gonna cut a video of this dude, too since I already have UCLA vs oregon st

bulldog0123 · 10-10-2012, 08:05 AM

Can't tackle.

princefielder28 · 10-13-2012, 06:08 PM

INT for a TD against BYU to guarantee the victory...the MVP of the undefeated Beavers

norcalgsr · 10-14-2012, 01:13 AM

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INT for a TD against BYU to guarantee the victory...the MVP of the undefeated Beavers

The INT was off a deflected pass. How many of this 3 INTs last week were in man coverage? Cody Hoffman beat him for a would-be TD on a out/corner route and he had to commit a Pass Interference penalty.

In last year's game, Hoffman also beat Poyer two times: one on a back shoulder throw for a TD, the other was a deep post where he was grabbing Hoffman (which should have been Pass Interference) after getting beat, but luckily the Safety was there when the pass arrived to "disrupt" the play.

Not sure why Poyer doesn't just shadow the opposing teams' #1 WRs if he's a true "shutdown" Corner.

princefielder28 · 10-14-2012, 07:16 AM

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Not sure why Poyer doesn't just shadow the opposing teams' #1 WRs if he's a true "shutdown" Corner.

This could very well be a schematic preference by the defensive coordinator to have Poyer play half the field as opposed to shadowing a team's #1. If I am not mistaken the Raiders did that with Nnamdi when they had him, eliminate one half of the field instead of taking on a team's #1.

rawdawg · 10-14-2012, 08:23 AM

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This could very well be a schematic preference by the defensive coordinator to have Poyer play half the field as opposed to shadowing a team's #1. If I am not mistaken the Raiders did that with Nnamdi when they had him, eliminate one half of the field instead of taking on a team's #1.

This is likely true. Teams could just combat Poyer by putting their #1 in the slot and giving him a 2-way go, instead of giving Poyer the sideline to help as he would be able to get vs. an outside WR on his half of the field.

And CBs get beat every game. I don't know why pointing out when one got beat would help to prove he's not a shutdown CB. Granted, Poyer's NOT a true shutdown CB, but few are. The value with Poyer is that you don't have to spend a top 15-20 pick on him, and you still get a pretty good cover guy out of it.

gpngc · 10-13-2012, 06:12 PM

Nice call PF28. Bulldog, a lot of his highlight tapes include a bunch of big hits, forced fumbles, and closing on receivers before they catch the ball.

Care to elaborate? Is he a hit-or-miss tackler that whiffs at times?

bulldog0123 · 10-21-2012, 08:10 PM

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Nice call PF28. Bulldog, a lot of his highlight tapes include a bunch of big hits, forced fumbles, and closing on receivers before they catch the ball.

Care to elaborate? Is he a hit-or-miss tackler that whiffs at times?

I mean, what you were watching was a highlight reel. What I have seen of him, he just seems really tentative and doesn't give much help in run support.

coach4fu · 10-22-2012, 04:26 PM

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I mean, what you were watching was a highlight reel. What I have seen of him, he just seems really tentative and doesn't give much help in run support.

I've seen him play several times and really watched his game against Utah and he did a great job vs. the run. Every game I've seen he has been a strong tackler.

norcalgsr · 10-18-2012, 02:33 AM

I don't see anything special from the BYU game.

princefielder28 · 10-18-2012, 08:23 AM

norcalgsr, what's there not to be impressed about when it comes to the BYU game? BYU rarely threw in his direction and they clearly had a game plan to avoid him at all costs

norcalgsr · 10-18-2012, 01:42 PM

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norcalgsr, what's there not to be impressed about when it comes to the BYU game? BYU rarely threw in his direction and they clearly had a game plan to avoid him at all costs

Did BYU avoid him or did Poyer avoid Hoffman? He was mostly either on the left side or on the slot WR JD Falslev. BYU rarely threw at him because he barely lined up against Hoffman. Hoffman is the only future NFL-caliber WR, so I would have liked to see that matchup more often.

princefielder28 · 10-18-2012, 02:01 PM

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Did BYU avoid him or did Poyer avoid Hoffman? He was mostly either on the left side or on the slot WR JD Falslev. BYU rarely threw at him because he barely lined up against Hoffman. Hoffman is the only future NFL-caliber WR, so I would have liked to see that matchup more often.

And that's in Poyer's control how??? you can't evaluate a prospect as having a bad game because the coaching staff had a different idea on how to use him rather than matching him up against the best WR or the WR you wanted him to be up against

y.f.s. · 10-18-2012, 02:04 PM

A lot of scouting CBs is just projecting the fluidity and movement skills of the CB and his eye discipline. It's really hard to scout DBs in general because you can only see them for a second or two in the shot.

coach4fu · 10-18-2012, 05:10 PM

That is why it is best to watch the NFL tape rather than the television tape. The NFL tape is wider so you can see the whole field during any one play.

gpngc · 10-18-2012, 05:15 PM

1) His feet are great. 40s matter for CBs so I wonder what his is.

2) Has he always played LCB? Is the RCB a stud or does the RCB just not tackle?

Matthew Jones · 10-20-2012, 02:14 AM

Some of my notes on Poyer:

Jordan Poyer, Oregon St. (5’11”, 190)

2009: 11 tackles

2010: 34 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FF, 1 FR, 2 INT (1 TD), 4 PD

2011: 57 tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT (1 TD), 12 PD

2012 (YTD): 15 tackles, 3.0 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FF, 5 INT (1 TD), 4 PD

• Has made extensive contributions on special teams: gunner, kick returner, punt returner

• Almost always lines up at left cornerback for the Beavers; converted from safety in 2010

• Looks a little bit shorter than his listed 6’0”, but has a muscular, compact build

• Aggressive in coverage, gets physical with his man and will try to undercut routes

• Reacts, breaks on the ball quickly and reads opposing routes well, especially in off coverage

• Excellent ball skills to make plays on the ball in the air; soft hands, remembers to look back

• Experienced in both press coverage and zone coverage; looks a little bit better in man coverage

• Has yet to miss any time due to injury; will enter the draft having played in over 40 games

• Misses far too many tackles; active but not powerful, more of a dive-and-swipe tackler

• Struggles to shed blocks in the running game; active hand use but can be controlled

• Not afraid to mix it up but may have some difficulty covering taller receivers in the NFL

• Confidence borders on cockiness and personality may turn off some NFL teams

Grade: Second or third round

Notes: Poyer should be selected in the second or third round: he is a versatile, experienced player with outstanding competitiveness and impressive measurables. His burst, ball skills, and agility all stand out on tape and could earn him a starting job in the NFL. As a rookie, his special teams value as a gunner and return specialist could help him work his way onto the field. Only two factors may negatively impact his draft stock: his tackling and his personality. Poyer is active but ineffective in run support and pre-draft interviews may negatively impact his draft stock.