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What would you trade for Greg Jennings?
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...169565026.html
Apparently, a lot of people think this might be Jennings final season with the Packers. Assuming they are open to trade him what would you give up for Jennings? He's 29 and looking for a new deal mind you.
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09-12-2012, 10:29 PM
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At his age, and the contract he will demand...nothing. I wouldn't touch him, bc I would have to pay him. Rather just draft a guy. It's getting easier and easier to draft wrs these days.
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09-13-2012, 01:32 AM
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At his age, and the contract he will demand...nothing. I wouldn't touch him, bc I would have to pay him. Rather just draft a guy. It's getting easier and easier to draft wrs these days.
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I'm with this. (even if he would be a spring chicken WR in NE...)
edit: I might trade a player for him, but I can't see GB just giving him up for a guy like Ron Brace or even Wes Welker (who also needs a contract).
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09-13-2012, 03:24 PM
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At his age, and the contract he will demand...nothing. I wouldn't touch him, bc I would have to pay him. Rather just draft a guy. It's getting easier and easier to draft wrs these days.
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But if I were the Dolphins, I would call the Packers ASAP and offer both 2013 3rd rounders. One will be a high 3rd anyway and the other(Bears) will likely be somewhere in the 20's. DO IT!
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09-12-2012, 10:33 PM
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3rd or so, maybe something like the Cardinals got for Boldin(3/4 for Boldin/5)
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09-12-2012, 10:42 PM
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i'm with bbd. wouldn't touch. wide receiver is simply not remotely valuable enough to give up something and have to pay him.
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09-12-2012, 11:49 PM
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If I were a legitimate SB contending team that needed a WR I'd consider giving up a late 2. He's not ancient, he's actually younger than Vincent Jackson and won't get that big of a deal. But I wouldn't do it for much more than a 4th if I were the Dolphins as that article suggests. Jennings doesn't have as much value to teams like Miami, Cleveland, St. Louis... no matter how well he fits in an offense. He's not making them a contender bc he's just not that good. And I can't really think of a legitimate contender that needs him that badly so I doubt he moves.
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09-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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Maybe if a contender loses a starter. But other than that I don't see him being moved. Then again, just because you're and NFL HC or GM doesn't mean you aren't a total moron.
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09-12-2012, 11:57 PM
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Teams like Miami, Carolina, Cleveland, St. Louis and Jacksonville need Greg Jennings. He should still be productive until age 34-35.
If they try I bet GB could get a 3rd for him.
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Teams like Miami, Carolina, Cleveland, St. Louis and Jacksonville need Greg Jennings. He should still be productive until age 34-35.
If they try I bet GB could get a 3rd for him.
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I dont see any of those teams you listed outside of maybe St. Louis and Miami. Carolina already has found their set group I feel, Cleveland has some good young guys, and Jacksonville has invested a lot in the WR position this offseason.
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09-13-2012, 12:13 AM
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I'd rent him for the year in exchange for a 5th-7th
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09-13-2012, 02:33 PM
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I'd rent him for the year in exchange for a 5th-7th
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Most people here are underrating Jennings and overvaluing draft picks, but holy crap this might be the stupidest trade proposal I've ever seen. The Packers could use him for the whole year and still get a better comp pick than what you're offering.
Jennings is a top 10 WR, I'd put him in the top 5. He's only 29. Yes, only 29, he's a WR, not a RB. He'll give you at least 5 more good years. To get him during the season a team would probably have to give up a first, but at the very least a 2nd and 4th.
There's less than a 5% chance the Packers are even interested in trading him mid-season anyway though. They're one of the best teams in the league and are trying to win a Super Bowl this year. You don't trade away one of your best players during the middle of a Super Bowl run.
If Jennings is traded it's going to be a tag and trade after the season. At that point you're looking at two 3rds minimum, as set by the Brandon Marshall trade.
I'm surprised with how clueless most of you seem to be assessing trade value. You trade a 5-7th for a backup OL, not a top 5 WR.
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09-13-2012, 03:53 PM
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I'm surprised with how clueless most of you seem to be assessing trade value. You trade a 5-7th for a backup OL, not a top 5 WR.
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i'm not clueless wrt assessing trade value. i don't believe wrs have anywhere near the value the average fan wants to give them. further, no one asked what the packers might get for him. the question was, specficially:
"Assuming they are open to trade him what would you give up for Jennings?"
i would give nothing. and that has nothing to do with how much i value draft picks.
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09-13-2012, 01:07 AM
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I doubt the Packers trade him, they are looking to win a championship and while they are deep at receiver, he is their best receiver. Hes a SB hero and Rodgers go-to guy. Theyd be OK without him, and good chance he'll leave in the offseason, but trading him midseason while their in championship contention would infuriate fans and rightfully so. The only way Id see him moving is if the packers somehow suck this year and decide they need to reload, and i cant see that happenning unless rodgers gets hurt.
And I think Jennings should have a lot more value than you guys are saying. Hes a top of the line receiver, hes been great since he came into the league, hes still in his prime. OK, he had some injuries lately but nothing that serious and hes a key part of one of the best offenses the NFL has ever seen. Hes a great route runner, great hands, smart receiver, good speed and athleticism, great character, makes plays in big moments, what more do you want. Sometimes teams have to make tough decisions in regards to extensions because of their own cap issues, but if Jennings was on the open market hed get a big deal and rightfully so.
You think the Ravens regret trading a 3rd rounder for Anquan Boldin? I think in hindsight they woulda gave up a first, he has been so key for them in the passing game. Anyone who gets Jennings for a third rounder is getting a bargain.
Who would be interested though?
The Jets, Seahawks, Bills, Chiefs, Redskins, Rams, Dolphins and Panthers come to mind as teams that could be good in the next couple years and a veteran WR could really help them turn the corner.
or it could just be a contender that is already strong at receiver but decides to just go for it. this blows up in teams faces sometimes, but teams are also always looking for an edge...Chicago or Detroit, though I dont imagine theyd trade him within the division. Baltimore or Houston would just be nasty. Giants are thin at receiver.
or just whatever team gets a big injury at WR and needs to make a move.
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09-13-2012, 02:40 AM
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I doubt the Packers trade him, they are looking to win a championship and while they are deep at receiver, he is their best receiver. Hes a SB hero and Rodgers go-to guy. Theyd be OK without him, and good chance he'll leave in the offseason, but trading him midseason while their in championship contention would infuriate fans and rightfully so. The only way Id see him moving is if the packers somehow suck this year and decide they need to reload, and i cant see that happenning unless rodgers gets hurt.
And I think Jennings should have a lot more value than you guys are saying. Hes a top of the line receiver, hes been great since he came into the league, hes still in his prime. OK, he had some injuries lately but nothing that serious and hes a key part of one of the best offenses the NFL has ever seen. Hes a great route runner, great hands, smart receiver, good speed and athleticism, great character, makes plays in big moments, what more do you want. Sometimes teams have to make tough decisions in regards to extensions because of their own cap issues, but if Jennings was on the open market hed get a big deal and rightfully so.
You think the Ravens regret trading a 3rd rounder for Anquan Boldin? I think in hindsight they woulda gave up a first, he has been so key for them in the passing game. Anyone who gets Jennings for a third rounder is getting a bargain.
Who would be interested though?
The Jets, Seahawks, Bills, Chiefs, Redskins, Rams, Dolphins and Panthers come to mind as teams that could be good in the next couple years and a veteran WR could really help them turn the corner.
or it could just be a contender that is already strong at receiver but decides to just go for it. this blows up in teams faces sometimes, but teams are also always looking for an edge...Chicago or Detroit, though I dont imagine theyd trade him within the division. Baltimore or Houston would just be nasty. Giants are thin at receiver.
or just whatever team gets a big injury at WR and needs to make a move.
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I don't think the Packers trade him, but they probably won't resign him. According to that article the contract talks with his agent have gone nowhere. It's not that he isn't a good receiver, it's that his injuries are catching up to him. He hasn't been able to finish the last three games he's played in and he is doubtful for tonight's game against Chicago. The future looks like it belongs to Nelson, Jones, and Cobb. This is probably the last season for both Driver and Jennings.
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09-13-2012, 01:39 AM
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He is 29, needs a big new contract, and has the benefit of the top QB in a passing friendly system. I wouldn't feel bad at all trading away a late 1st/2nd rounder for him purely as a player, but the contract is the sticking point. I'd still give up a later 2nd rounder if my team had the cap space and I had a QB who could take advantage of his abilities now. Not some developing QB who might be good in 3 years.
No way he gets moved this year though. He is just too valuable to Green Bay this year. He is their best WR and is a key cog in the system. They won't get offered above a 4th maybe and that's not worth noticeably hurting their SB chances.
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09-13-2012, 01:44 AM
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He is 29, needs a big new contract, and has the benefit of the top QB in a passing friendly system. I wouldn't feel bad at all trading away a late 1st/2nd rounder for him purely as a player, but the contract is the sticking point. I'd still give up a later 2nd rounder if my team had the cap space and I had a QB who could take advantage of his abilities now. Not some developing QB who might be good in 3 years.
No way he gets moved this year though. He is just too valuable to Green Bay this year. He is their best WR and is a key cog in the system. They won't get offered above a 4th maybe and that's not worth noticeably hurting their SB chances.
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i think you may have said it better than i did. i think this is pretty much what it boils down to.
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09-13-2012, 02:10 AM
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If I was the Texans I would dangle a 2nd rounder in front of the pack ... That WR combo with Arian in the backfield and a talented defense could = a super bowl birth.
Or maybe San Diego ... neither Meachem nor Floyd are #1 WR's
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Yeah, no way should they trade him before the deadline. With Cedric Benson running the ball they need to keep that WR core loaded. You trade him, one guy goes down, and then you are in trouble. Only chance is if they franchise him after the season and then deal him. Can you even still do that in the new CBA? I have no doubt he'll get a huge payday in free agency.
I think there is some overreaction going on around Jennings because he didn't have a huge game on Sunday and now he's injured.
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Dallas doesn't need him. We got Kevin Ogletree.
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09-13-2012, 09:31 AM
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He's probably worth more to the Packers than he would be to anybody else this season.
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I would be 50/50 taking him as a FA with having to give him a new contract but I wouldn't give up anything to trade for him. The guy is a very good WR who has great chemistry with Rodgers and that offense. But is he a difference maker at the position??? I don't think so.
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Since I've seen the Panthers mentioned here as a possible suitor, I'll give my take as a Panthers fan...
I'm all for the Panthers adding a legit receiver opposite Steve Smith but I can't see trading for him and then handing him a big contract. The team is already down to 5 draft picks next year, so it's hard to see the GM (Marty Hurney- who keeps talking about building through the draft) trading away more picks.
I could see them paying him as a free agent...and would almost prefer them to do this since the franchises history of drafting receivers is questionable at best...though I'm not totally sure of the cap situation the team faces next year.
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He is a 29 year old written. So hypothetically if I wanted him on my team. Maybe 3rd perhaps a second. But other than that no thanks on him.
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I don't think they'd trade him this season. I also don't see them franchising him or anything like that so they could trade him in the offseason.
I do, however, hope he takes the money and takes his talents to South Beach this offseason.
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