Vince Young Is Broke

The Alex · 09-19-2012, 03:23 PM

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Six years ago, quarterback Vince Young became the third overall pick in the draft, signing a contract with the Titans that paid him $26 million.

Now, Young is out of the NFL — and out of money.

“I would just say that Vince needs a job ,” attorney Trey Dolezal told the Associated Press regarding Young’s financial situation.

Young has sued his former agent, Major Adams, and a financial planner, Ronnie Peoples. Young claims that they misappropriated $5.5 million, via forged signatures and impersonated phone calls and emails. Young also alleges that a $1.7 million lockout loan in 2011 was obtained in his name by Adams and Peoples.

“They conspired to take Vince’s money,” Dolezal said. “It’s that simple.”

Regardless of where the money went, the money is gone. And Dolezal thinks Young was dumped by the Bills because of the financial issues. “I wasn’t in the room when [the Bills] made a decision, but what would you think? It certainly wouldn’t help me if I’m the owner or the head coach knowing all this is going on with Vince and then he goes out and plays poorly,” Dolezal said.

The Bills declined comment on the reasons for cutting him. Regardless of the reason(s), the Bills didn’t want him — and no one else does, either.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...oung-is-broke/

This has to be the first time in NFL history that the Rookie Of The Year ended up as a bust. It really stinks, too because I wanted him to suceed so badly. I had faith in this guy, his drive against the Cardinals in 2009 is maybe my favorite Titans moment since the Super Bowl run. There was actually a stretch of games between 2009 and 2010 where he looked like he was finally turning the corner.

But then the fallout with Fisher happened and it just continues to get worse and worse. The moral of the story is that you don't draft immature quarterbacks with intelligence issues. What are your thoughts on Vince Young and his downward spiral?

D-Unit · 09-19-2012, 03:24 PM

I knew Matt Leinart was a better pick. lol

The Alex · 09-19-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

I knew Matt Leinart was a better pick. lol

It's amazing that no one involved in that Rose Bowl ever lived up to their potential in the NFL. Reggie Bush is finally putting it together but for the past five or six seasons, they were all colossal disappointments.

Ness · 09-19-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Alex

It's amazing that no one involved in that Rose Bowl ever lived up to their potential in the NFL. Reggie Bush is finally putting it together but for the past five or six seasons, they were all colossal disappointments.

Well while he wasn't a high pick, Tarell Brown has become a pretty decent #2 corner for us here in San Francisco. He played in that game against USC.

VAfy-ya · 09-19-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ness

Well while he wasn't a high pick, Tarell Brown has become a pretty decent #2 corner for us here in San Francisco. He played in that game against USC.

Considering he FINALLY looked decent just last year, I'd say a big no to that also.

The Alex · 09-19-2012, 04:19 PM

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of everyone from both rosters in that game who got drafted, in the order they were picked. I'm including freshmen who didn't play, as long as they were listed on the official roster, they're on this list. Obviously, the further you go into the years, the less impact these guys had on either USC or Texas in 2005.

2006 Draft
Reggie Bush, 2nd overall
Vince Young, 3rd overall
Michael Huff, 7th overall
Matt Leinart, 10th overall
Winston Justice, 39th overall
Deuce Lutui, 41st overall
LenDale White, 45th overall
Cedric Griffin, 48th overall
David Thomas, 86th overall
Frostee Rucker, 91st overall
Dominique Byrd, 93rd overall
Darnell Bing, 101st overall
Jonathan Scott, 141st overall
David Kirtman, 163rd overall
LaJuan Ramsey, 204th overall
Fred Matua, 217th overall
Rodrique Wright, 226th overall

2007 Draft
Michael Griffin, 19th overall
Aaron Ross, 20th overall
Justin Blalock, 39th overall
Dwayne Jarrett, 45th overall
Steve Smith, 51st overall
Tim Crowder, 56th overall
Ryan Kalil, 59th overall
Brian Robison, 102nd overall
Dallas Sartz, 143rd overall
Tarell Brown, 147th overall
Kasey Studdard, 183rd overall
Oscar Lua, 211th overall

2008 Draft
Sedrick Ellis, 7th overall
Keith Rivers, 9th overall
Sam Baker, 21st overall
Lawrence Jackson, 28th overall
Chilo Rachal, 39th overall
Fred Davis, 48th overall
Limas Sweed, 53rd overall
Terrell Thomas, 63rd overall
Jamaal Charles, 73rd overall
Jermichael Finley, 91st overall
Tony Hills, 130th overall
John David Booty, 137th overall
Frank Okam, 151st overall
Thomas Williams, 155th overall
Chauncey Washington, 213th overall

2009 Draft
Mark Sanchez, 4th overall
Brian Orakpo, 13th overall
Brian Cushing, 15th overall
Clay Matthews, 26th overall
Rey Maualuga, 38th overall
Fili Moala, 56th overall
Roy Miller, 81st overall
Patrick Turner, 87th overall
Kaluka Maiava, 104th overall
Henry Melton, 105th overall
Kyle Moore, 117th overall
Cary Harris, 183rd overall
Kevin Ellison, 189th overall
Chris Ogbonnaya, 211st overall

2010 Draft
Charles Brown, 64th overall
Jordan Shipley, 84th overall
Colt McCoy, 85th overall
Kevin Thomas, 94th overall
Roddrick Muckelroy, 131st overall

So if you had Ryan Kalil, Jamaal Charles and Steve Smith ending up as the best offensive players from the 2006 Rose Bowl, pat yourself on the back and submit your resume to NFL teams.

Babylon · 09-19-2012, 04:37 PM

^
I think you just answered your question as to how much talent played in that game. Quite a few have had nice NFL careers too.

K Train · 09-19-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Alex

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of everyone from both rosters in that game who got drafted, in the order they were picked. I'm including freshmen who didn't play, as long as they were listed on the official roster, they're on this list. Obviously, the further you go into the years, the less impact these guys had on either USC or Texas in 2005.

2006 Draft
Reggie Bush, 2nd overall
Vince Young, 3rd overall
Michael Huff, 7th overall
Matt Leinart, 10th overall
Winston Justice, 39th overall
Deuce Lutui, 41st overall
LenDale White, 45th overall
Cedric Griffin, 48th overall
David Thomas, 86th overall
Frostee Rucker, 91st overall
Dominique Byrd, 93rd overall
Darnell Bing, 101st overall
Jonathan Scott, 141st overall
David Kirtman, 163rd overall
LaJuan Ramsey, 204th overall
Fred Matua, 217th overall
Rodrique Wright, 226th overall

2007 Draft
Michael Griffin, 19th overall
Aaron Ross, 20th overall
Justin Blalock, 39th overall
Dwayne Jarrett, 45th overall
Steve Smith, 51st overall
Tim Crowder, 56th overall
Ryan Kalil, 59th overall
Brian Robison, 102nd overall
Dallas Sartz, 143rd overall
Tarell Brown, 147th overall
Kasey Studdard, 183rd overall
Oscar Lua, 211th overall

2008 Draft
Sedrick Ellis, 7th overall
Keith Rivers, 9th overall
Sam Baker, 21st overall
Lawrence Jackson, 28th overall
Chilo Rachal, 39th overall
Fred Davis, 48th overall
Limas Sweed, 53rd overall
Terrell Thomas, 63rd overall
Jamaal Charles, 73rd overall
Jermichael Finley, 91st overall
Tony Hills, 130th overall
John David Booty, 137th overall
Frank Okam, 151st overall
Thomas Williams, 155th overall
Chauncey Washington, 213th overall

2009 Draft
Mark Sanchez, 4th overall
Brian Orakpo, 13th overall
Brian Cushing, 15th overall
Clay Matthews, 26th overall
Rey Maualuga, 38th overall
Fili Moala, 56th overall
Roy Miller, 81st overall
Patrick Turner, 87th overall
Kaluka Maiava, 104th overall
Henry Melton, 105th overall
Kyle Moore, 117th overall
Cary Harris, 183rd overall
Kevin Ellison, 189th overall
Chris Ogbonnaya, 211st overall

2010 Draft
Charles Brown, 64th overall
Jordan Shipley, 84th overall
Colt McCoy, 85th overall
Kevin Thomas, 94th overall
Roddrick Muckelroy, 131st overall

So if you had Ryan Kalil, Jamaal Charles and Steve Smith ending up as the best offensive players from the 2006 Rose Bowl, pat yourself on the back and submit your resume to NFL teams.

pretty incredible list from 2 schools over 4 years

MetSox17 · 09-19-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Alex

It's amazing that no one involved in that Rose Bowl ever lived up to their potential in the NFL. Reggie Bush is finally putting it together but for the past five or six seasons, they were all colossal disappointments.

Jamaal Charles played. Michael Griffin had a huge INT that game, and he has been pretty darn good. Aaron Ross muffed a punt and can't stay injury free, so **** him. That Texas secondary was elite, and a handful of those guys are all still in the NFL as starters. Huff, Griffin, Thomas, Ross (he'd get PT if he wasn't hurt all the time).

Ghost of Juice · 09-19-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MetSox17

Jamaal Charles played. Michael Griffin had a huge INT that game, and he has been pretty darn good. Aaron Ross muffed a punt and can't stay injury free, so **** him. That Texas secondary was elite, and a handful of those guys are all still in the NFL as starters. Huff, Griffin, Thomas, Ross (he'd get PT if he wasn't hurt all the time).

Another guy who has become a great player is Henry Melton although back then he was a RB lol. But he is a damn good DT.

MetSox17 · 09-19-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Juice

Another guy who has become a great player is Henry Melton although back then he was a RB lol. But he is a damn good DT.

Yup, big Henry was our goal line back, and he did a hell of a good job at it. Scored 10 touchdowns his Freshman year before he was moved to DT as a Jr, when there was no chance he was gonna be getting any more carries.

ChiFan24 · 09-19-2012, 03:27 PM

I've never been less surprised about anything in my entire life.

The Alex · 09-19-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiFan24

I've never been less surprised about anything in my entire life.

Vince Young being broke or the Rose Bowl players all sucking?

ImBrotherCain · 09-19-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Alex

Vince Young being broke or the Rose Bowl players all sucking?

All of the above?

The percentage of Pro athletes that file for bankruptcy is insane.

K Train · 09-19-2012, 03:38 PM

best player out of that rose bowl???? ryan kalil?

SickwithIt1010 · 09-19-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by K Train

best player out of that rose bowl???? ryan kalil?

Steve Smith was pretty sick for a second.

ImBrotherCain · 09-19-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

The percentage of Pro athletes that file for bankruptcy is insane.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...64/1/index.htm

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• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

Caddy · 09-19-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...64/1/index.htm

I don't feel sorry for them at all. If you are given the opportunity to earn millions and millions over a 2, 5, 10 or whatever number of years, you should make some responsible decisions. Invest some of it, or just put it in a long term savings account. Also, don't knock up 500 women.

Raiderz4Life · 09-19-2012, 03:42 PM

I always said Cutler would be the best QB

K Train · 09-19-2012, 03:43 PM

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I always said Cutler would be the best QB

me too, but i didnt expect the other two to flop so hard either

katnip · 09-24-2012, 01:14 PM

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I always said Cutler would be the best QB

Same here. Wanted the Jets to draft him after Ferguson.

Also.. Any1 know how many draft picks the 2003 fiesta bowl (Miami/tOSU) produced?

MetSox17 · 09-19-2012, 03:44 PM

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And that's what happens when you give a ton of money to an uneducated, immature athlete. I feel for him, because the people around him took advantage of his good nature, but it's also partly his fault for not surrounding himself with the right people. If you just tell someone "here, manage my finances", eventually they're gonna take a little free reign. A lot of it, usually. I hope he lands on his feet, he's a good guy, but he never really matured enough to be completely independent.

My quote from the week 2 discussion thread.

soybean · 09-19-2012, 03:49 PM

I'm still under the belief that Leinart and Young's careers were handled extremely poorly.

Look how many chances/starts Alex Smith got and he's still the SF starter.

Reggie Bush just went to the wrong team.

Lendale White & Dwayne Jarrett flopped.

soybean · 09-19-2012, 03:50 PM

Hasn't Huff been pretty underwhelming?

MetSox17 · 09-19-2012, 03:53 PM

He didn't turn into the elite safety people thought he would be, but he's a very solid guy. Enough that they didn't let him go after his contract was up.

And i agree, both Young's and Leinart's careers were both mismanaged from the beginning. Tennessee's coaching staff had to put up with Young without actually wanting him initially, and Leinart screwed the pooch with his coaching staff by holding out. Then Whisenhunt came in and hated him.