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I used to say the tuck rule was the worst game-deciding call ive ever seen, but a new precedent has been set. Thats gotta be the worst-officiated end of a game Ive ever seen.

Not only did they ignore Golden Tate shoving the DB standing in front of him in the back, but it was obviously an interception. how they can go back to replay and call that a TD I have no idea. Not to mention the PI on Sam Shields where he did nothing wrong and got grabbed by Sidney Rice.

my god I didnt think the replacement refs were going to ruin the NFL, just theyd miss a few more calls than the regular refs, but jesus christ, this is just out of hand.
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You hate to see it end on such an obviously bad single call, but it went both ways the entire game. Green Bay only scored a touchdown in the first place because of a bogus pass interference call on a Green Bay 3rd down.
The dude that defended the 2 point conversion should of been ejected before that play.
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Agreed. What a horrible game called by the officials. I have noticed something between tonights game and last nights game, it seems that the calls favor the home team even more than uaual and especially at the end of the game. Correct me if im wrong but thats how it seems.
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Agreed. What a horrible game called by the officials. I have noticed something between tonights game and last nights game, it seems that the calls favor the home team even more than uaual and especially at the end of the game. Correct me if im wrong but thats how it seems.
Colin Cowherd said that exact same thing the other day. For the first two weeks, there were pretty much the same amount of penalties as usual. But Home teams were getting 2-4 more calls per game.
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Agreed. What a horrible game called by the officials. I have noticed something between tonights game and last nights game, it seems that the calls favor the home team even more than uaual and especially at the end of the game. Correct me if im wrong but thats how it seems.
not really if you remember last nights game it was Baltimore that almost got jobbed out of the game. If you remember, the whole crowd was chanting BS after they negated Webbs INT and then penalized harbaugh 15 yards for trying to get the officials attention to call a TO. the PI call at the end on the pass to jacoby jones was the right call
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And to think I was angry at calls in the Bucs game. I'd probably have necked myself if I was a Packers fan.
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How they missed the push off by Tate is beyond me

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Damn if that call costs the Packers a playoff spot...damn.
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yaaaay another thread to talk about what is already being talked about in another thread.
as far as i'm concerned there aren't enough threads about how ****** the officiating is.
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You hate to see it end on such an obviously bad single call, but it went both ways the entire game. Green Bay only scored a touchdown in the first place because of a bogus pass interference call on a Green Bay 3rd down.
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You hate to see it end on such an obviously bad single call, but it went both ways the entire game. Green Bay only scored a touchdown in the first place because of a bogus pass interference call on a Green Bay 3rd down.
So those tricky-tack calls makes up for that absolutely horrendous call at the end? Gotta love the 'Hawks fan's rationale here. Like they didn't benefit from bs calls during the game as well. The roughing the passer call on Wilson that negated the int was bs. The p/i on Shields was bs. Don't act like that last call evens out the game, in what world?
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So those tricky-tack calls makes up for that absolutely horrendous call at the end? Gotta love the 'Hawks fan's rationale here. Like they didn't benefit from bs calls during the game as well. The roughing the passer call on Wilson that negated the int was bs. The p/i on Shields was bs. Don't act like that last call evens out the game, in what world?
I'm just saying the whole game was ********. But as a Seahawks fan, I do think that everyone is acting like the Packers played far and above Seattle and the refs simply robbed them, when Seattle's defense had 9 sacks and no one is saying a word about it.
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I'm just saying the whole game was ********. But as a Seahawks fan, I do think that everyone is acting like the Packers played far and above Seattle and the refs simply robbed them, when Seattle's defense had 9 sacks and no one is saying a word about it.
Nobody is saying a word about it because of the awful end result. How can anybody NOT be talking about that end result? This is the exact kind of thing people were fearing all along with these refs

Seattle's D was AMAZING tonight. Even with that, they still lost the game, obviously. Refs taking a win away on a terrible call is going to get ALL of the talk over what Seattle did in the game. It's the bigger story

it's a shame to because Seattle's D was great, and it got completely overshadowed by this clown crew
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I'm just saying the whole game was ********. But as a Seahawks fan, I do think that everyone is acting like the Packers played far and above Seattle and the refs simply robbed them, when Seattle's defense had 9 sacks and no one is saying a word about it.
two things

1- it was a good game on both sides. I dont think anyone is saying the packers far and away outplayed the seahawks. if that was the case, it wouldnt have been a 5 point game in the final seconds. and yes there were bad calls both ways throughout the game. but certainly in the final 2 minutes there was a ridicuulous amount of bad calls that went the hawks way. But the point is the Packers won the game. The final play was not a touchdown, it was a horrible call, the Packers won that game. period.

2-i think that is really the shameful part of the whole thing is that no one is even talking about football anymore. It was a great game from the players and coaches standpoint. The Seahawks had a brilliant defensive effort in the first half, 8 sacks, incredible coverage and pass-rush. And the Pack, to their credit, did a great job adjusting and getting their offense going in the second half. And the Packers defense also played a great game. But when we should be talking about the football that took place, we are instead talking about the refs, and thats whats so pathetic.

And its not even one isolated incident, its everything. There are so many horrible calls, its really impossible to talk about the NFL without talking officials. I really tried to avoid it and just focus on the games being played, but it really is that out of hand. the old officials werent perfect they made bad calls and we still griped about it, but at the end of the day they got most of it right. What has taken place this weekend was just so ridiculous i cant even believe it.

Im honestly at a point where I think the refs might be taking money and trying to influence games and make sure teams dont cover spreads and stuff like that. theyre just replacement refs theyre not being held to any standard. i dunno its just hard to comprehend what is going on right now.
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You hate to see it end on such an obviously bad single call, but it went both ways the entire game. Green Bay only scored a touchdown in the first place because of a bogus pass interference call on a Green Bay 3rd down.
This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
I think you're forgetting the Sam Shields PI call. Those two equal each other. Giving a team an imaginary touchdown on the last play of the game is much worse. We also had a leigt interception taken away from us.

So overall:

Packers receive:

First down

Seahawks receive:

Touchdown
Possession of the ball
First down
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I think you're forgetting the Sam Shields PI call. Those two equal each other. Giving a team an imaginary touchdown on the last play of the game is much worse.
Except that's my exact point: They don't equal each other. The Sam Shields PI happened after the egregious PI on 3rd and 2. Who's to say that the Shields PI even has an opportunity to happen if Green Bay had to kick a FG (or punt, I forget where they were on the field) on their TD drive instead of scoring that eventual TD? Situations should not determine the severity of a call or how a game's called for that matter. For example, I heard Gruden last night on the telecast mention how on last second heaves usually push-offs are ignored, but that sounds ludicrous to me. What Golden Tate did on that last TD was offensive PI, and if it was the second quarter, it would've been called as such. Thus, it should be called as such at the end of the game.
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Except that's my exact point: They don't equal each other. The Sam Shields PI happened after the egregious PI on 3rd and 2. Who's to say that the Shields PI even has an opportunity to happen if Green Bay had to kick a FG (or punt, I forget where they were on the field) on their TD drive instead of scoring that eventual TD? Situations should not determine the severity of a call or how a game's called for that matter. For example, I heard Gruden last night on the telecast mention how on last second heaves usually push-offs are ignored, but that sounds ludicrous to me. What Golden Tate did on that last TD was offensive PI, and if it was the second quarter, it would've been called as such. Thus, it should be called as such at the end of the game.
The past is the past. Fact is that both the Packers and Seahawks both wrongly got given first downs during the game. Just because the Packers went on to score on that drive doesn't make it any worse of a call.

I don't know if it's just homerism, but trying to justify the call at the end of the game by saying "but the Packers got a call their way earlier in the game" makes no sense when a worse call favored the Seahawks the next drive.
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
first off, no a bad call in the first quarter is not the same as a bad call on the last play of the game. If they make a bad call in the first quarter, the team that got the wrong end of it still has a chance to shake it off and overcome it. the final outcome of the game isnt being completely dictated by a ref. there are plenty of close games, its the nature of the sport, and we play it to the end to see who makes the big plays in the final seconds to win the game. And in this case, the Packers made the big plays, but the refs decided to take a win away from them.


And if youre speking about the third down where he threw to finley and they called a lame PI on Chancellor, it was a bad call, but not THAT bad. that was the kind of bad call Im used to seeing the old refs make. A little contact, shoulda let em play, but nothing to go crazy about.

However, the PI on 1st and 30 they called on Sam Shields was inexplicably horrible. Not only did he play PERFECT defense, but Rice interfered with him. Obviously there are gonna be questionable calls that go both teams way throughout the game no matter who is reffing the game. obviously there has been a greater extent of that with the replacements than the regulars, but when it is the final minutes or seconds of the game and you see calls that are just so obviously wrong (as Tony Gonzalez tweeted, a pop warner ref coulda made that call), it just ruins the game entirely and leaves a horrible taste in your mouth
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